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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rogue_agents_tipped_pelosi_to_harman_wiretap/comment-page-1/#comment-1032300</link>
		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just curious...which CIA leaks against Republicans were viewed as just peachy keen by the left...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm just curious...which CIA leaks against Republicans were viewed as just peachy keen by the left...</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My apologies if I left to much inference to the reader.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

S&#039;Ok. It was the ending &#039;this&#039; in the previous sentence that caused the pause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My apologies if I left to much inference to the reader.</p></blockquote>
<p>S'Ok. It was the ending 'this' in the previous sentence that caused the pause.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth Commission.  Maybe we need a Truth Czar or a Secretary of Truth as a cabinet level position to institutionalize it.  Were this Great Britain it would, of course, be a Ministry of Truth.

My apologies if I left to much inference to the reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth Commission.  Maybe we need a Truth Czar or a Secretary of Truth as a cabinet level position to institutionalize it.  Were this Great Britain it would, of course, be a Ministry of Truth.</p>
<p>My apologies if I left to much inference to the reader.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rogue_agents_tipped_pelosi_to_harman_wiretap/comment-page-1/#comment-1031939</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Charles

&lt;blockquote&gt; Orwellian is too often used these days, but it seems justified in this case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Charles, what&#039;s the antecedent of &#039;this case&#039; in the quote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Charles</p>
<blockquote><p> Orwellian is too often used these days, but it seems justified in this case.</p></blockquote>
<p>Charles, what's the antecedent of 'this case' in the quote?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kevin Drum observes, “CIA is engaged in some pretty serious message sending against people they don’t like.  My guess: I don’t know how Harman is going to weather all this, but I don’t think it’s going to turn out well for the CIA.  They may have gone a couple of steps too far this time.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why Mr. Drum?  Because the person hurt by the leaks wasn&#039;t a Republican?  As I recall, it is just a couple of steps from one side of the aisle to the other in the House of Representatives. Apparently some leaks are more equal than others in Progressiveland.

I am most interested to see how whistle blowers are treated by the White House, the leadership in Congress and Big Media the next eight years.

Perhaps a little OT, but I can&#039;t wait for the Truth Commission to tell me what it is we are supposed to think about this.  Orwellian is too often used these days, but it seems justified in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kevin Drum observes, “CIA is engaged in some pretty serious message sending against people they don&rsquo;t like.  My guess: I don&rsquo;t know how Harman is going to weather all this, but I don&rsquo;t think it&rsquo;s going to turn out well for the CIA.  They may have gone a couple of steps too far this time.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Why Mr. Drum?  Because the person hurt by the leaks wasn't a Republican?  As I recall, it is just a couple of steps from one side of the aisle to the other in the House of Representatives. Apparently some leaks are more equal than others in Progressiveland.</p>
<p>I am most interested to see how whistle blowers are treated by the White House, the leadership in Congress and Big Media the next eight years.</p>
<p>Perhaps a little OT, but I can't wait for the Truth Commission to tell me what it is we are supposed to think about this.  Orwellian is too often used these days, but it seems justified in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: FranklinTest</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranklinTest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you.  I was wondering if you had any credibility and you confirmed my suspicions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank you.  I was wondering if you had any credibility and you confirmed my suspicions.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to&lt;/blockquote&gt;. 

That&#039;ll be right after the FBI releases info on Ragshaft the Rastafarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to</p></blockquote>
<p>. </p>
<p>That'll be right after the FBI releases info on Ragshaft the Rastafarian.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that Josh Marshall suspects, though is uncertain, that the suspected Israeli agent is an American who is a supporter of the Democratic Party and Israel.  If that&#039;s the case, then it sounds like an investigation that would have been about politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that Josh Marshall suspects, though is uncertain, that the suspected Israeli agent is an American who is a supporter of the Democratic Party and Israel.  If that's the case, then it sounds like an investigation that would have been about politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to.  Or what the results of what happened as a result of the actions Bush took in defense of this country as he was sworn to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot wait until disgruntled agents of CIA start releasing information about some of the things Obama the Kenyan is up to.  Or what the results of what happened as a result of the actions Bush took in defense of this country as he was sworn to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin, just which laws specifically is it the Bush administration violated?  List them alphabetically.  Name the law and the violation specifically.  People like you make extremely stupid statements and have nothing to back them up but there opinion.  That is the same BS that applies to Bush lied.  No he did not.  Check the facts.  Stop getting your info from DK and DU.  Are you really Keith Obermann?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin, just which laws specifically is it the Bush administration violated?  List them alphabetically.  Name the law and the violation specifically.  People like you make extremely stupid statements and have nothing to back them up but there opinion.  That is the same BS that applies to Bush lied.  No he did not.  Check the facts.  Stop getting your info from DK and DU.  Are you really Keith Obermann?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Finel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Finel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What evidence do we have for that? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t see any possible way of interpreting his decision to forego an investigation as anything other than a quid-pro-quo for her support.  I mean, even if he didn&#039;t plan to blackmail her, he was avoiding an investigation of someone solely because she was politically convenient.  That is almost as bad.

Let&#039;s not be naive here.  Gonzo is the same guy who went to John Ashcroft&#039;s hospital room to try to get him to override the legal judgment of Jack Goldsmith and James Comey.  Gonzo was and is nothing more than a Bush consigliere -- with no more morals or scruples than any other mob lawyer.

You really want to defend the position that &quot;we don&#039;t investigate our friends&quot;?

If I were an FBI agent and I saw that kind of borderline criminal behavior from my boss, I&#039;d be tempted to play whistleblower as well.  Frankly, we could have used more whistleblowers during the past 8 years, not fewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What evidence do we have for that? </p></blockquote>
<p>I don't see any possible way of interpreting his decision to forego an investigation as anything other than a quid-pro-quo for her support.  I mean, even if he didn't plan to blackmail her, he was avoiding an investigation of someone solely because she was politically convenient.  That is almost as bad.</p>
<p>Let's not be naive here.  Gonzo is the same guy who went to John Ashcroft's hospital room to try to get him to override the legal judgment of Jack Goldsmith and James Comey.  Gonzo was and is nothing more than a Bush consigliere -- with no more morals or scruples than any other mob lawyer.</p>
<p>You really want to defend the position that "we don't investigate our friends"?</p>
<p>If I were an FBI agent and I saw that kind of borderline criminal behavior from my boss, I'd be tempted to play whistleblower as well.  Frankly, we could have used more whistleblowers during the past 8 years, not fewer.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Except that Gonzo was planning to use the info to blackmail Harman to publicly support the warrantless wiretapping program. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What evidence do we have for that?  I read the report as simply saying that Harman was on the team and he didn&#039;t want to piss her off.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think, maybe, Pelosi had both a need and a right to know that one of her members was compromised and potentially being blackmailed.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That may be right.  The update from &quot;The Hill&quot; makes the nature of what was disclosed sound much less problematic.  I gathered from Stein&#039;s report that this was a backdoor sabotaging of DOJ by disgruntled agents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Except that Gonzo was planning to use the info to blackmail Harman to publicly support the warrantless wiretapping program. </p></blockquote>
<p>What evidence do we have for that?  I read the report as simply saying that Harman was on the team and he didn't want to piss her off.</p>
<blockquote><p>I think, maybe, Pelosi had both a need and a right to know that one of her members was compromised and potentially being blackmailed.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That may be right.  The update from "The Hill" makes the nature of what was disclosed sound much less problematic.  I gathered from Stein's report that this was a backdoor sabotaging of DOJ by disgruntled agents.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Finel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Finel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that Gonzo was planning to use the info to blackmail Harman to publicly support the warrantless wiretapping program.  When your chief law enforcement officer is behaving like a mafia don, it corrodes everything.

I think, maybe, Pelosi had both a need and a right to know that one of her members was compromised and potentially being blackmailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that Gonzo was planning to use the info to blackmail Harman to publicly support the warrantless wiretapping program.  When your chief law enforcement officer is behaving like a mafia don, it corrodes everything.</p>
<p>I think, maybe, Pelosi had both a need and a right to know that one of her members was compromised and potentially being blackmailed.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the people, by the people, for the people -- it was good while it lasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the people, by the people, for the people -- it was good while it lasted.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Surely, whether to pursue an investigation is the prerogative of the AG&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ideally, yes. In the case of the Bush admin, which pretty much abandoned the rule of law, perhaps so clear. Once more example of the inherent danger of placing politics, policy and individuals above the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Surely, whether to pursue an investigation is the prerogative of the AG</p></blockquote>
<p>Ideally, yes. In the case of the Bush admin, which pretty much abandoned the rule of law, perhaps so clear. Once more example of the inherent danger of placing politics, policy and individuals above the law.</p>
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