some had no gods at all.

You can't possibly be saying their have always been atheists, oh ya forgot you believe in caveman and that fabricated nonsense, sorry.

Such as?

Israel, and many more, but it takes an understanding of the Bible.

What does evolution have to do with the existence of a god? It's not necessarily one or the other--the two concepts are separate.

somewhat true if you speak of a random god in the abstract, hardly if you speak of the true God, the two religions are diametrically opposed.

He has? What's your evidence for that proposition?

most of the founding fathers thought so and said so, as have many others, or you you could compare the history of this Christian nation to any other nation, it's obvious to those who do.

Your evidence for this being... ?

the sings of Revelations are everywhere, but once again you have to have the understating that only the word of God guided buy the Holy spirit can give you.

I don't subscribe to the divine command theory of ethics, so the existence of god is of little interest to me. There might be one, there might not be. It has no bearing on how one should live one's life. Morality is objective. Therefore, I'm not going to act immorally, even if that means that some deity is displeased and punishes me in some yet unproven afterlife.

and this is you choice of opinion created buy the thoughts of man, but seeing the overwhelming evidence of of how people and civilizations living by this objective Morality end up , me thinks it's a bad one.

***A smart man would make darn sure that whole God thing was truly bunk before incinerating his opportunity for a shot at true happiness and immortality.****

And in this I would have said wise man, but it is also logical given the consensus on the subject of believing that a higher power exists.

Sorry annje I felt I needed to answer these.

Baldwin wasn't saying that China did it, or God did it, he's inferring that WE did it to ourselves,

Yes, I got that. I didn't assume that God was punishing us for nothing...

As to God, when somebody comes up with a better explanation for the existence of A. the persistent and fervent belief in God since the beginning of recorded time

Now, that depends on what you mean by "god", doesn't it? Some cultures had gods, some ancestor worship, some were animists, some had no gods at all. Only a handful had one God, and that was well after "the beginning of recorded time."

B.confirmation of biblical prophecy even now

Such as?

C. maybe finally finds that "missing link",

What does evolution have to do with the existence of a god? It's not necessarily one or the other--the two concepts are separate.

he HAS kept the people of this country protected and living safely within its boundaries

He has? What's your evidence for that proposition?

He IS about to apply an adjustment to that that is going to change things here, somewhat. Think of it like one of our recent market corrections...only way bigger and more permanent like...

Your evidence for this being... ?

A smart man would make darn sure that whole God thing was truly bunk before incinerating his opportunity for a shot at true happiness and immortality.

I don't subscribe to the divine command theory of ethics, so the existence of god is of little interest to me. There might be one, there might not be. It has no bearing on how one should live one's life. Morality is objective. Therefore, I'm not going to act immorally, even if that means that some deity is displeased and punishes me in some yet unproven afterlife.

Baldwin wasn't saying that China did it, or God did it, he's inferring that WE did it to ourselves, as of course, anyone with "fancy book learning" should be able to extract from that quote, since a 5th grader who's paid attention to his grammar lessons could deliver that much. :-/

As to God, when somebody comes up with a better explanation for the existence of A. the persistent and fervent belief in God since the beginning of recorded time B.confirmation of biblical prophecy even now C. maybe finally finds that "missing link", those of us who are thinking organisms in addition to being educated will be able to follow you ethereal leapers through the cosmos to where you are sitting on high in judgment.

It won't matter how smart you are when Christ returns son. God's not going to be impressed with your choice of beer. It won't matter whether or not you believe in God either...fact is, God does exist, he HAS kept the people of this country protected and living safely within its boundaries, Something that is rare, especially given our penchant for attacking or financing the attacks on sovereign nations; and He IS about to apply an adjustment to that that is going to change things here, somewhat. Think of it like one of our recent market corrections...only way bigger and more permanent like...

A smart man would make darn sure that whole God thing was truly bunk before incinerating his opportunity for a shot at true happiness and immortality. But hey, you gotta be you...;-)

So pencil me into your nutjob list for my faith, but I'm afraid you won't be able to chalk me up as "lacking fancy booklearning"...so dig back down into that bag of tricks and see what else you can dredge up; this attempt to belittle and judge doesn't really wash...

Constitution Party? Right, you can bet that they feel very strongly about taking the Establishment Clause at its word. Here's the first sentence of the Preamble of their platform: "The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States." Then a few sentences down, "The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations"

And they aren't just paranoid, they are out of date paranoids. They spend two entire paragraphs of a fairly short document ranting about the Panama Canal. Don't they know that in a few years Jesus will be finished melting through a northern passage to rectify Jimmy Carter's blasphemy?