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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul Would Save the Constitution</title>
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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;While a theoretical President Ron Paul might well defend the Constitution better than any of his competitors, the chances of his election are slightly lower than that of the Miami Dolphins to win this year’s Super Bowl.&lt;/em&gt;

Now that&#039;s just not fair. Ron Paul&#039;s statistical probability of winning is orders of magnitude higher than the Fins&#039; of winning the Super Bowl. 

Put another way, Ron Paul has a non-zero chance of resorting to the indicative mood, while the Fins have only the subjunctive left their prospects this season, including for not finishing 0-16. This should not, of course, be construed as implying that such an improvement of Paul&#039;s grammatical prospects is in any way probable; rather, it is merely highly improbable, as opposed to all but impossible.

P.S. I confess that I, too, wondered if you were trolling the fringes. Or pining for the fjords. Or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>While a theoretical President Ron Paul might well defend the Constitution better than any of his competitors, the chances of his election are slightly lower than that of the Miami Dolphins to win this year&rsquo;s Super Bowl.</em></p>
<p>Now that's just not fair. Ron Paul's statistical probability of winning is orders of magnitude higher than the Fins' of winning the Super Bowl. </p>
<p>Put another way, Ron Paul has a non-zero chance of resorting to the indicative mood, while the Fins have only the subjunctive left their prospects this season, including for not finishing 0-16. This should not, of course, be construed as implying that such an improvement of Paul's grammatical prospects is in any way probable; rather, it is merely highly improbable, as opposed to all but impossible.</p>
<p>P.S. I confess that I, too, wondered if you were trolling the fringes. Or pining for the fjords. Or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booga!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booga!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Heh. Pro-Paul comments are fine. Long, drive-by posts -- especially those with multiple links -- are deleted, though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Wait, you mean it&#039;s possible to have a Pro-Paul comment that isn&#039;t a long, drive-by troll?  Next you&#039;ll tell me it&#039;s possible to have a conversation with Kucinich supporters too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heh. Pro-Paul comments are fine. Long, drive-by posts -- especially those with multiple links -- are deleted, though.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, you mean it's possible to have a Pro-Paul comment that isn't a long, drive-by troll?  Next you'll tell me it's possible to have a conversation with Kucinich supporters too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jaquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If ever there were a time for the subjunctive mood, this is it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I trust that I can safely skip the subjunctive when I say: &quot;One of either Rudy Giuliani or Hillary Clinton will further destroy the Constitution.&quot;

You&#039;ll have to pardon my preference for the less plausible but infinitely less depressing Ron Paul sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If ever there were a time for the subjunctive mood, this is it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I trust that I can safely skip the subjunctive when I say: "One of either Rudy Giuliani or Hillary Clinton will further destroy the Constitution."</p>
<p>You'll have to pardon my preference for the less plausible but infinitely less depressing Ron Paul sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Come on little Ron Paul supporter, tell us about how glorious your candidate is, we&#039;ll take you seriously this time....

DELETED!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh. Pro-Paul comments are fine.  Long, drive-by posts -- especially those with multiple links -- are deleted, though.  That&#039;s true for all the candidates, though. 

I&#039;m a lot more lenient in that regard with regular commenters, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Come on little Ron Paul supporter, tell us about how glorious your candidate is, we'll take you seriously this time....</p>
<p>DELETED!</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh. Pro-Paul comments are fine.  Long, drive-by posts -- especially those with multiple links -- are deleted, though.  That's true for all the candidates, though. </p>
<p>I'm a lot more lenient in that regard with regular commenters, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the dedicated &lt;strike&gt;spammer&lt;/strike&gt; Disciple &quot;Alex Hammer&quot; has crapped his copypasta spam here, too.  And the Paultards get pissed when we call them &quot;spammers.&quot;  Heh.
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Doesn&#039;t really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, yeah, we &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt;, Strawman Steve.  If you&#039;re against Ron Paul the Messiah, you&#039;re against America, the Constitution, freedom, capitalism, and fluffy kittens.  

/eyeroll</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the dedicated <strike>spammer</strike> Disciple "Alex Hammer" has crapped his copypasta spam here, too.  And the Paultards get pissed when we call them "spammers."  Heh.</p>
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Doesn't really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, yeah, we <em>know</em>, Strawman Steve.  If you're against Ron Paul the Messiah, you're against America, the Constitution, freedom, capitalism, and fluffy kittens.  </p>
<p>/eyeroll</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those wishing to buy candidate advertising should send inquiries to otb@blogads.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;Come on, admit it, you posted this story just for the fun of sticking it to the Ron Paul or Huckabee supporters who come over to troll.

It&#039;s like Peanuts&#039; Lucy holding the football: 

Come on little Ron Paul supporter, tell us about how glorious your candidate is, we&#039;ll take you seriously this time....

DELETED!

Ha ha ha, they fall for it every time.</description>
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<p>Come on, admit it, you posted this story just for the fun of sticking it to the Ron Paul or Huckabee supporters who come over to troll.</p>
<p>It's like Peanuts' Lucy holding the football: </p>
<p>Come on little Ron Paul supporter, tell us about how glorious your candidate is, we'll take you seriously this time....</p>
<p>DELETED!</p>
<p>Ha ha ha, they fall for it every time.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;All the railing about the erosion of freedoms that we hear these days, it really doesn&#039;t matter in the end.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably not.  I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s all that much railing, really, outside the libertarian-right blogsosphere and the Netroots.  And the latter is likely concerned about liberties only because Bush is the one trampling them; if Hillary gets in there, they&#039;ll likely pipe down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All the railing about the erosion of freedoms that we hear these days, it really doesn't matter in the end.</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably not.  I'm not sure there's all that much railing, really, outside the libertarian-right blogsosphere and the Netroots.  And the latter is likely concerned about liberties only because Bush is the one trampling them; if Hillary gets in there, they'll likely pipe down.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t expect the electorate to make choices based on abstract theories. And, frankly, it&#039;s too late to put the genie back in the bottle on things like the IRS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t bode well for the future of this country.  All the railing about the erosion of freedoms that we hear these days, it really doesn&#039;t matter in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don't expect the electorate to make choices based on abstract theories. And, frankly, it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle on things like the IRS.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn't bode well for the future of this country.  All the railing about the erosion of freedoms that we hear these days, it really doesn't matter in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn&#039;t this attitude lead to some self-fulfilling prophecies, though?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, although it&#039;s inevitable.  You have to draw a line somewhere and it&#039;s just incredibly implausible that a backbench House Member with ideas as far outside the mainstream as Paul will catch fire.  

To be sure, more media coverage would help.  But that means taking away coverage from people who are much more plausible candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doesn't this attitude lead to some self-fulfilling prophecies, though?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, although it's inevitable.  You have to draw a line somewhere and it's just incredibly implausible that a backbench House Member with ideas as far outside the mainstream as Paul will catch fire.  </p>
<p>To be sure, more media coverage would help.  But that means taking away coverage from people who are much more plausible candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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Those wishing to buy candidate advertising should send inquiries to otb@blogads.com</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not surprised that people like Sullivan find Paul&#039;s message appealing, just that they take the candidacy seriously.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Doesn&#039;t this attitude lead to some self-fulfilling prophecies, though?  If journalists dismiss candidates and don&#039;t give them much coverage, doesn&#039;t that create a positive feedback loop that determines that the only &quot;viable&quot; candidates are those that journalists &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; are viable candidates?

To take Paul as an example, in most polls I&#039;ve seen, over 70% of those polled haven&#039;t ever heard of him.  If the media dismisses his candidacy as &quot;not viable&quot;, he won&#039;t get covered, and that 70% of the population won&#039;t be exposed to a candidate to whom many might be attracted to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm not surprised that people like Sullivan find Paul's message appealing, just that they take the candidacy seriously.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn't this attitude lead to some self-fulfilling prophecies, though?  If journalists dismiss candidates and don't give them much coverage, doesn't that create a positive feedback loop that determines that the only "viable" candidates are those that journalists <i>say</i> are viable candidates?</p>
<p>To take Paul as an example, in most polls I've seen, over 70% of those polled haven't ever heard of him.  If the media dismisses his candidacy as "not viable", he won't get covered, and that 70% of the population won't be exposed to a candidate to whom many might be attracted to.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn&#039;t really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I don&#039;t expect the electorate to make choices based on abstract theories.  And, frankly, it&#039;s too late to put the genie back in the bottle on things like the IRS.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Trolling for bots again, eh James?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh. It&#039;s just a fascinating phenomenon.  I&#039;m not surprised that people like Sullivan find Paul&#039;s message appealing, just that they take the candidacy seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doesn't really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't expect the electorate to make choices based on abstract theories.  And, frankly, it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle on things like the IRS.</p>
<blockquote><p>Trolling for bots again, eh James?</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh. It's just a fascinating phenomenon.  I'm not surprised that people like Sullivan find Paul's message appealing, just that they take the candidacy seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trolling for bots again, eh James?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolling for bots again, eh James?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While a theoretical President Ron Paul might well defend the Constitution better than any of his competitors, the chances of his election are slightly lower than that of the Miami Dolphins to win this year’s Super Bowl.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While a theoretical President Ron Paul might well defend the Constitution better than any of his competitors, the chances of his election are slightly lower than that of the Miami Dolphins to win this year&rsquo;s Super Bowl.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn't really speak well of the American publics regard for the Constitution.</p>
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