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		<title>By: Marilyn Able</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31826</link>
		<dc:creator>Marilyn Able</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dems (dims) should be so lucky.  I bought Apple at $12 and look at your comments as sour grapes.  Don&#039;t buy Apple.  But the bug-prone, worm-ridden, virus-attracting Micro(teeny)Soft(flaccid) stuff.  I will laugh all the way to the bank.  What a pity party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dems (dims) should be so lucky.  I bought Apple at $12 and look at your comments as sour grapes.  Don't buy Apple.  But the bug-prone, worm-ridden, virus-attracting Micro(teeny)Soft(flaccid) stuff.  I will laugh all the way to the bank.  What a pity party!</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31790</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daver,
Comments like yours remind me why PC/MS evangelists are the analog of the democratic party. They trot out failed programs, crony businesses and shoddy products and try to push them on the American public. When someone points out that something doesn&#039;t work, they ignore the complaints and blame the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daver,<br />
Comments like yours remind me why PC/MS evangelists are the analog of the democratic party. They trot out failed programs, crony businesses and shoddy products and try to push them on the American public. When someone points out that something doesn't work, they ignore the complaints and blame the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Daver</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31775</link>
		<dc:creator>Daver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the blogosphere doesn&#039;t click to the fact that Apple is in every way and every day the analog of the Democratic Party is beyond me.  Just think about it for a minute.  Okay, for starters, try the phrase &quot;self-appointed elites&quot;.  Go from there to &quot;smug, condescending, self-righteous,...&quot;.  Oh, and don&#039;t forget the fact that since they pay much higher prices, they figure everyone should too.  Someday we will all drive Volvos like we are supposed to, right?.  (I drive a BMW because I work really goddamn hard and it goes like a fucking rocket and if you don&#039;t like that TS.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the blogosphere doesn't click to the fact that Apple is in every way and every day the analog of the Democratic Party is beyond me.  Just think about it for a minute.  Okay, for starters, try the phrase "self-appointed elites".  Go from there to "smug, condescending, self-righteous,...".  Oh, and don't forget the fact that since they pay much higher prices, they figure everyone should too.  Someday we will all drive Volvos like we are supposed to, right?.  (I drive a BMW because I work really goddamn hard and it goes like a fucking rocket and if you don't like that TS.)</p>
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		<title>By: Daver</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31773</link>
		<dc:creator>Daver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Youâre between a rock and a hard place, my friend. Apple is in your bad books, but you can hardly buy a laptop powered by Microsoftâs software (how evil a corporation can you get?).&quot;

Well, you couldn&#039;t get more objective advice if it came from Dan Rather, could you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Youâre between a rock and a hard place, my friend. Apple is in your bad books, but you can hardly buy a laptop powered by Microsoftâs software (how evil a corporation can you get?)."</p>
<p>Well, you couldn't get more objective advice if it came from Dan Rather, could you?</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31766</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 02:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Robert,

I also recommend the Apple Powerbook. I&#039;ve had two running OS 10, and they are a dream to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Robert,</p>
<p>I also recommend the Apple Powerbook. I've had two running OS 10, and they are a dream to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Tagorda</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31750</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Tagorda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Dan, it&#039;s just how I&#039;m feeling right now. I could be persuaded out of my dissatisfaction. I&#039;ll look more into that option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Dan, it's just how I'm feeling right now. I could be persuaded out of my dissatisfaction. I'll look more into that option.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31749</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert- FYI there are a number of &quot;inaccuracies&quot; in this story. Many people in the blogosphere are getting it way wrong.

I&#039;m headed out the door but I&#039;ll make a post on Wizbang later.

P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert- FYI there are a number of "inaccuracies" in this story. Many people in the blogosphere are getting it way wrong.</p>
<p>I'm headed out the door but I'll make a post on Wizbang later.</p>
<p>P</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 22:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re between a rock and a hard place, my friend.  Apple is in your bad books, but you can hardly buy a laptop powered by Microsoft&#039;s software (how evil a corporation can you get?).

My Apple PowerBook is the best computer I&#039;ve ever owned in my entire life, without hesitation.  It is a gorgeous device and will bring you years of satisfaction.  So what if Apple likes to smush excitable bloggers? (And I&#039;d take issue with your anxiety, at least a little bit.)

Get an Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're between a rock and a hard place, my friend.  Apple is in your bad books, but you can hardly buy a laptop powered by Microsoft's software (how evil a corporation can you get?).</p>
<p>My Apple PowerBook is the best computer I've ever owned in my entire life, without hesitation.  It is a gorgeous device and will bring you years of satisfaction.  So what if Apple likes to smush excitable bloggers? (And I'd take issue with your anxiety, at least a little bit.)</p>
<p>Get an Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Tagorda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Tagorda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, Bryan. Thanks for that information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, Bryan. Thanks for that information.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31738</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I didn&#039;t notice that it was Robert Tagorda who posted this, either. Sorry, but I&#039;m so used to this being a solo blog. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I didn't notice that it was Robert Tagorda who posted this, either. Sorry, but I'm so used to this being a solo blog. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31737</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reasons unbeknownst to me--even though Kathy Kinsley tried to explain it to me once--blockquotes don&#039;t work right in the comments and can&#039;t be fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reasons unbeknownst to me--even though Kathy Kinsley tried to explain it to me once--blockquotes don't work right in the comments and can't be fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31734</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the above should have been in blockquotes. Don&#039;t know why it didn&#039;t carry over from the paragraph to the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the above should have been in blockquotes. Don't know why it didn't carry over from the paragraph to the next.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/rotten_apple/comment-page-1/#comment-31733</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, 

this is from Declan McCullough&#039;s mailing list, a reply from a former Apple employee who runs a Mac-related web site. Newsday is being a bit loose with the term &quot;bloggers.&quot;

[blockquote]I don&#039;t know if anyone is deliberately attempting to conflate the Macintosh rumor Web sites with &quot;bloggers&quot; for PR purposes, but if we want to report the story accurately, we need to untangle that.

First, Apple is not suing &quot;bloggers.&quot;  Apple is suing Think Secret, a professional, ad-driven Web site whose media kit boasts of its &quot;nearly ... 100% exclusive&quot; track record of &quot;inside Apple information&quot; and &quot;previews of forthcoming software.&quot;  It is the primary media property of &quot;The dePlume Organization LLC,&quot; where you&#039;ll find lots of bragging about how broadly the business, technology, and mainstream press covers its rumors.

http ://www.thinksecret.com/advertising/
http ://www.deplume.com/

Think Secret may not have the resources of a newspaper or top-tier media site, but it is a professional site, one that sells its exclusives to advertisers eager to reach &quot;Macintosh professionals.&quot;  (In fact, the Harvard Crimson reports today that Think Secret&#039;s owner is a Harvard freshman who&#039;s been running the site since he was 13, and who hasn&#039;t hired a lawyer because he can&#039;t afford one.)

http ://www.thecrimson.com/today/article505326.html

This is all an interesting First Amendment debate as well, but it&#039;s not one about &quot;bloggers.&quot;  It&#039;s about professional media.

Second, EFF is not representing &quot;bloggers&quot; either.  They&#039;re representing AppleInsider and O&#039;Grady&#039;s PowerPage - both of which are also professional, ad-driven rumor sites trying to draw eyeballs to sell to advertiers.  The difference is that Apple is not &quot;suing&quot; those sites - it has subpoenaed them as part of a previous lawsuit against unnamed individuals who allegedly leaked Apple&#039;s confidential information to rumor sites.[/blockquote]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, </p>
<p>this is from Declan McCullough's mailing list, a reply from a former Apple employee who runs a Mac-related web site. Newsday is being a bit loose with the term "bloggers."</p>
<p>[blockquote]I don't know if anyone is deliberately attempting to conflate the Macintosh rumor Web sites with "bloggers" for PR purposes, but if we want to report the story accurately, we need to untangle that.</p>
<p>First, Apple is not suing "bloggers."  Apple is suing Think Secret, a professional, ad-driven Web site whose media kit boasts of its "nearly ... 100% exclusive" track record of "inside Apple information" and "previews of forthcoming software."  It is the primary media property of "The dePlume Organization LLC," where you'll find lots of bragging about how broadly the business, technology, and mainstream press covers its rumors.</p>
<p>http ://www.thinksecret.com/advertising/<br />
http ://www.deplume.com/</p>
<p>Think Secret may not have the resources of a newspaper or top-tier media site, but it is a professional site, one that sells its exclusives to advertisers eager to reach "Macintosh professionals."  (In fact, the Harvard Crimson reports today that Think Secret's owner is a Harvard freshman who's been running the site since he was 13, and who hasn't hired a lawyer because he can't afford one.)</p>
<p>http ://www.thecrimson.com/today/article505326.html</p>
<p>This is all an interesting First Amendment debate as well, but it's not one about "bloggers."  It's about professional media.</p>
<p>Second, EFF is not representing "bloggers" either.  They're representing AppleInsider and O'Grady's PowerPage - both of which are also professional, ad-driven rumor sites trying to draw eyeballs to sell to advertiers.  The difference is that Apple is not "suing" those sites - it has subpoenaed them as part of a previous lawsuit against unnamed individuals who allegedly leaked Apple's confidential information to rumor sites.[/blockquote]</p>
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		<title>By: Arguing with signposts... &#187; Apple suing &#8220;bloggers"?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arguing with signposts... &#187; Apple suing &#8220;bloggers"?</dc:creator>
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