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		<title>By: Andrei L., Russia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrei L., Russia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE:
&quot;Certainly, there&#039;s no question about the way Saakasvili was elected.&quot;

Hm.. James, doesn&#039;t a 52% elections figure for a ruling party in a post Soviet state that controls quite more than it&#039;s actually supposed to sound strange for you?</description>
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"Certainly, there's no question about the way Saakasvili was elected."</p>
<p>Hm.. James, doesn't a 52% elections figure for a ruling party in a post Soviet state that controls quite more than it's actually supposed to sound strange for you?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;amazing that any conservatives would want our country to be the world&#039;s policeman...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very. Yet Bit is ready to &lt;strike&gt;lead the fight&lt;/strike&gt; stay at home and cheer while others fight for Georgia.  Of course he, like any true armchair warrior realizes that when one does the dirty work himself, there is a real risk of encountering - napalm and rockets and bombs... oh my!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>amazing that any conservatives would want our country to be the world's policeman...</p></blockquote>
<p>Very. Yet Bit is ready to <strike>lead the fight</strike> stay at home and cheer while others fight for Georgia.  Of course he, like any true armchair warrior realizes that when one does the dirty work himself, there is a real risk of encountering - napalm and rockets and bombs... oh my!</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nice dodge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not a dodge at all...you&#039;re the one that made the initial ridiculous claim...prove it...


&lt;blockquote&gt;Amazing that the Democrats still hold JFK as a party icon, anymore, isn&#039;t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kennedy&#039;s speech was just that, a speech...even though he talked pretty words, I notice that there were still countries in his time that were dictatorships that we didn&#039;t bother to liberate...amazing that any conservatives would want our country to be the world&#039;s policeman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nice dodge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a dodge at all...you're the one that made the initial ridiculous claim...prove it...</p>
<blockquote><p>Amazing that the Democrats still hold JFK as a party icon, anymore, isn't it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Kennedy's speech was just that, a speech...even though he talked pretty words, I notice that there were still countries in his time that were dictatorships that we didn't bother to liberate...amazing that any conservatives would want our country to be the world's policeman...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obviously not anything that is going on in Washington&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Nice dodge.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, and if Kennedy&#039;s message in that speech should now be official U.S. policy, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Burma, Sudan, and Zimbabwe, among any other countries...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amazing that the Democrats stiill hold JFK as a party icon, anymore, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obviously not anything that is going on in Washington</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice dodge.</p>
<blockquote><p>Oh, and if Kennedy's message in that speech should now be official U.S. policy, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Burma, Sudan, and Zimbabwe, among any other countries...</p></blockquote>
<p>Amazing that the Democrats stiill hold JFK as a party icon, anymore, isn't it?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Your one liners from Eisenhower certainly look like an indictment on something. What is it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did not post those with any agenda beyond showing what a wise man the General was, something  I am not sure he gets sufficient credit for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your one liners from Eisenhower certainly look like an indictment on something. What is it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Did not post those with any agenda beyond showing what a wise man the General was, something  I am not sure he gets sufficient credit for.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anjin-san - It is difficult in this age of mass communication and access to the cut and paste world of the internet, but I do sometimes try to keep things in context.

Your one liners from Eisenhower certainly look like an indictment on something. What is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anjin-san - It is difficult in this age of mass communication and access to the cut and paste world of the internet, but I do sometimes try to keep things in context.</p>
<p>Your one liners from Eisenhower certainly look like an indictment on something. What is it?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am an Eisenhower-man myself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Some of Gen. Eishenhower&#039;s remarks  over the years.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.
Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross.

A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. 

Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative.

Don&#039;t join the book burners. Do not think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed. 

From behind the Iron Curtain, there are signs that tyranny is in trouble and reminders that its structure is as brittle as its surface is hard.

Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. 

How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without? 

Only Americans can hurt America. 

Peace and justice are two sides of the same coin. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


A hell of a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am an Eisenhower-man myself.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some of Gen. Eishenhower's remarks  over the years.</p>
<blockquote><p>Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.</p>
<p>The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense.<br />
Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from an iron cross.</p>
<p>A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. </p>
<p>Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative.</p>
<p>Don't join the book burners. Do not think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed. </p>
<p>From behind the Iron Curtain, there are signs that tyranny is in trouble and reminders that its structure is as brittle as its surface is hard.</p>
<p>Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. </p>
<p>How far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without? </p>
<p>Only Americans can hurt America. </p>
<p>Peace and justice are two sides of the same coin. </p></blockquote>
<p>A hell of a man.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if Kennedy&#039;s message in that speech should now be official U.S. policy, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Burma, Sudan, and Zimbabwe, among any other countries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if Kennedy's message in that speech should now be official U.S. policy, when do we invade Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Burma, Sudan, and Zimbabwe, among any other countries...</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What, in your opinion are the tennants and markers of communism?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obviously not anything that is going on in Washington...but I&#039;m sure your ideological hatred of anyone to the left of you won&#039;t allow you to see that reality...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What, in your opinion are the tennants and markers of communism?</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously not anything that is going on in Washington...but I'm sure your ideological hatred of anyone to the left of you won't allow you to see that reality...</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Finel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Finel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Kennedy&#039;s message:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah... Kennedy&#039;s was a good speech and a bad strategy.

I am an Eisenhower-man myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kennedy's message:</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah... Kennedy's was a good speech and a bad strategy.</p>
<p>I am an Eisenhower-man myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@AIP&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;How, exactly, does communism live in Washington...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, let&#039;s examine that question this way; What, in your opinion are the tennants and markers of communism?
 
&lt;strong&gt;@Bernard:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;No.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This would seem to be in direct opposition to Kennedy&#039;s message: 

&lt;blockquote&gt; “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I find that disconnection interesting, and to some degree enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@AIP</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>How, exactly, does communism live in Washington...</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, let's examine that question this way; What, in your opinion are the tennants and markers of communism?</p>
<p><strong>@Bernard:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>No.</p></blockquote>
<p>This would seem to be in direct opposition to Kennedy's message: </p>
<blockquote><p> “Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."</p></blockquote>
<p>I find that disconnection interesting, and to some degree enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You said, &quot;But, surely, we will let Russia know in no uncertain terms that there will be a steep economic and political price to pay if they cross this red line.&quot;

With the &quot;O&quot; man!! Surely, you&#039;ve GOT to be kidding.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, Obama&#039;s going to give in to the Russians just like he did with those Somali pirates.

wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You said, "But, surely, we will let Russia know in no uncertain terms that there will be a steep economic and political price to pay if they cross this red line."</p>
<p>With the "O" man!! Surely, you've GOT to be kidding.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, Obama's going to give in to the Russians just like he did with those Somali pirates.</p>
<p>wait...</p>
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		<title>By: Hangtown Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hangtown Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said,  &quot;But, surely, we will let Russia know in no uncertain terms that there will be a steep economic and political price to pay if they cross this red line.&quot;

With the &quot;O&quot; man!!  Surely, you&#039;ve GOT to be kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said,  "But, surely, we will let Russia know in no uncertain terms that there will be a steep economic and political price to pay if they cross this red line."</p>
<p>With the "O" man!!  Surely, you've GOT to be kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shorthand response is:

The EU part of the NATO alliance is more worried about Russia&#039;s near monopoly on the supply of energy resources to them.  They have been blackmailed at least once. Long term they should be interested in Georgia&#039;s alliance to the West for the same reason.

Of course, linked to Georgia is the Ukraine, and NATO/EU should be worried about what the Russians will do with the Ukraine if there is a minimal reaction to Russia&#039;s moves in Georgia.

The Jamestown Foundation web site has some interesting reporting from Eastern Europe as well as reporting on Russia&#039;s development and marketing of its energy reserves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shorthand response is:</p>
<p>The EU part of the NATO alliance is more worried about Russia's near monopoly on the supply of energy resources to them.  They have been blackmailed at least once. Long term they should be interested in Georgia's alliance to the West for the same reason.</p>
<p>Of course, linked to Georgia is the Ukraine, and NATO/EU should be worried about what the Russians will do with the Ukraine if there is a minimal reaction to Russia's moves in Georgia.</p>
<p>The Jamestown Foundation web site has some interesting reporting from Eastern Europe as well as reporting on Russia's development and marketing of its energy reserves.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Russia&#039;s move had anything to do with the recent private visit to Russia of Schultz and another to discuss nuclear disarmament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Russia's move had anything to do with the recent private visit to Russia of Schultz and another to discuss nuclear disarmament.</p>
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