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	<title>Comments on: Russian Aspirations vs. Operations</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>davod:

There were Russians on board the ship. Additionally, it&#039;s conceivable that the Russians could argue that they were obligated under the CIS Charter to come to Ukraine&#039;s aid.  That the Ukraine has never ratified the CIS Charter and, consequently, is technically not a member of the CIS would be a confounding factor in that argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davod:</p>
<p>There were Russians on board the ship. Additionally, it's conceivable that the Russians could argue that they were obligated under the CIS Charter to come to Ukraine's aid.  That the Ukraine has never ratified the CIS Charter and, consequently, is technically not a member of the CIS would be a confounding factor in that argument.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is a Russian ship being sent to aid a Ukrainian ship?

Someone else had better get there first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is a Russian ship being sent to aid a Ukrainian ship?</p>
<p>Someone else had better get there first.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/russian_aspirations_vs_operations/comment-page-1/#comment-515508</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Those may be Russia’s aspirations but its operational capability is somewhat different&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you mean can Russia hit those marks at once, you&#039;re quite right. However, as the Grand Canyon shows, great things are not of nessesity accomplished all at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those may be Russia&rsquo;s aspirations but its operational capability is somewhat different</p></blockquote>
<p>If you mean can Russia hit those marks at once, you're quite right. However, as the Grand Canyon shows, great things are not of nessesity accomplished all at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/russian_aspirations_vs_operations/comment-page-1/#comment-515492</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortified by information from the CIA we overestimated Russian strength for 40 years.  I see no reason to return to the &lt;i&gt;status quo ante&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortified by information from the CIA we overestimated Russian strength for 40 years.  I see no reason to return to the <i>status quo ante</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To assert or retain status as a world power on a basis other than its nuclear arsenal Russia must retain control of the Black and Caspian Seas and hold on to its eastern territories, which will become increasingly difficult as its population dwindles.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These efforts to downplay Russia&#039;s strength are right out of the Obama-Kennedy-Anan-Barney Frank playbook.

As Sarah Palin said so eloquently the other day: &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;it&#039;s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It&#039;s Alaska. It&#039;s just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Luckily we have a tough cookie running with McCain to remind us that we are likely to be invaded in the near future by the Ruskies. This is exactly why we need a spunky Governor who commanded the Alaska National Guard successfully over the past couple of years to keep the country safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To assert or retain status as a world power on a basis other than its nuclear arsenal Russia must retain control of the Black and Caspian Seas and hold on to its eastern territories, which will become increasingly difficult as its population dwindles.</p></blockquote>
<p>These efforts to downplay Russia's strength are right out of the Obama-Kennedy-Anan-Barney Frank playbook.</p>
<p>As Sarah Palin said so eloquently the other day:<br />
<blockquote>"it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state."</p></blockquote>
<p>Luckily we have a tough cookie running with McCain to remind us that we are likely to be invaded in the near future by the Ruskies. This is exactly why we need a spunky Governor who commanded the Alaska National Guard successfully over the past couple of years to keep the country safe.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But it remains unclear what role the vessel might play in the latest hostage crisis there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One possibility: It sinks the Ukranian ship. The dash around the Horn of Africa reminds me of a discussion I had with a friend when the Argentinians invaded the Falklands. He pointed out that the Brits had to steam almost 8,000 miles to reach to Falklands. He thought this might present a problem for them. I said that 8,000 miles is not such a long way for a modern navy if no one is shooting at you. The logistics would require , if the frigate is conventional, refueling at sea, but God knows, the Russians have enough oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But it remains unclear what role the vessel might play in the latest hostage crisis there.</p></blockquote>
<p>One possibility: It sinks the Ukranian ship. The dash around the Horn of Africa reminds me of a discussion I had with a friend when the Argentinians invaded the Falklands. He pointed out that the Brits had to steam almost 8,000 miles to reach to Falklands. He thought this might present a problem for them. I said that 8,000 miles is not such a long way for a modern navy if no one is shooting at you. The logistics would require , if the frigate is conventional, refueling at sea, but God knows, the Russians have enough oil.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Once you’ve reached the Suez Canal, it’s through the Red Sea and a dash around the Horn of Africa.&lt;/em&gt;

Better than they did in the Russo-Japanese War, where they pissed off the Brits &amp; had to go *around* Africa.

A long way to get sunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Once you&rsquo;ve reached the Suez Canal, it&rsquo;s through the Red Sea and a dash around the Horn of Africa.</em></p>
<p>Better than they did in the Russo-Japanese War, where they pissed off the Brits &amp; had to go *around* Africa.</p>
<p>A long way to get sunk.</p>
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