Are y'all even waiting for Osama, or do you have your own little plans to awaken America?

Well, I look at the tea parties, and some of the other grassroots efforts that have been going on over the last six months , and consider that we are now more awake than we have been in quite awhile. At least, at the grassroots level. The question of how awake the leadership is, it remains an open question, of course. As to what will come up, it's as I've been saying for years. The best stump argument the Republicans have is Democrats with power. It's what happened with Carter, for example. What we see now with Obama makes Carter look competent. That takes some doing.

Nixon, too. Did you see Helen Thomas' comment, this morning?

Following a testy exchange during Wednesday’s briefing with White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas told CNSNews.com that not even Richard Nixon tried to control the press the way President Obama is trying to control the press.

“Nixon didn’t try to do that,” Thomas said. “They couldn’t control (the media). They didn’t try.

“What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said. “They’re supposed to stay out of our business. They are our public servants. We pay them.”

Amazing. Helen Thomas woke up to the democrat corruption and arrogance. That's something I thought impossible until now. It took this administration to do that.

Yes, I'd say they're waking up. All by their lonesome. It may take a couple of years, but we appear to have that kind of time. Assuming, of course, that we don't end up with a dirty nuke someplace in the states. At which point, it will happen faster.

Otherwise, it would be easy for *everyone* to simply remark, "wow, what jerks, every Republican should refuse to have anything to do with them."

But apparently, too many people agree with Beck and Scheuer to say that. Are y'all even waiting for Osama, or do you have your own little plans to awaken America?

There's a rather large difference: Limbaugh et al are the semi-official spokesmodels for the GOP and the con movement.

You mean like Ed Shultz and Keith Olberman are spokesmen for the Democrats?

Nothing to a sniveling coward I guess.

BOO!

so I'm scared of liberals and gay people now, lol........

thanks for learning me sumtin Davebo....

Don't tell me Limbaugh isn't the boss of the GOP. Name a single other living GOP figure that no one in the party can diss.

The guy you can't get caught dissing? That's the boss.

Well........some still try....

Its pretty clear that the Limbaugh/Cheney wing of the GOP, which is basically the whole GOP now, would not mind seeing a successful terrorist attack. After all, it would hurt Obama, and that is far more important to them than a few thousand American lives.

come on.......

Making a statement on how both parties are to happy with the power they have and the lack of common sense they show regarding the threats we face here and exaggerating a point to show what it will take wake them up to this fact has nothing to do with what you have wildly stated....

After all, it would hurt Obama, and that is far more important to them than a few thousand American lives

I could easily Change one name in this apply it to the Iraq war and it would be so true in multiple cases and by actual American leaders.....but we have already been over that and you refuse to see it.....

Limbaugh is not the de facto leader of the party

Really? Because he has a remarkable collection of lip prints on his ass placed there by the called "leaders" of the GOP.

Someday I'll find something I can do well.

The guy you can't get caught dissing? That's the boss.

Didn't President Obama go on the Stewart show? No, that doesn't mean he had to toady but did Steele go on Limbaugh's show and apologize for something? I don't recall that happening.

So my point stands, you can find nutty cases willing to talk on TV or radio all day long on both sides of the political spectrum. It doesn't mean anything since most of this is entertainment rather than news or serious discussion. It should be ignored not promoted.

but then again whats it worth to be civil to a liberal?

Nothing to a sniveling coward I guess.

BOO!

if you have to explain it ...

It ain't funny.

No real comment on the substance of your remarks, but if I may act as a bit of an editor...

The phrase "may have taken" is a weak verb. You want to acknowledge the collateral damage, fine. But there's no question he "may have taken" some "collateral damage" because he said something about it, so it's just "have taken." And taken? Why not use a strong verb, like "suffered" or even better, throw in a personal responsibility angle and say, "My apologies for the collateral damage I inflicted." Suffered, inflicted. Much stronger verbs than "may have taken."

And this sentence: "I would have used your full post name had I meant to include you amonsgst those who cannot seemingly comment upon any topic in the world without reaching into their cacaphonous echo chamber grab bag of meaningless cliches, talking points, elitist biases, and truly bizarre micharacterizations of their political opponents." That's just a mess. Split it up with the creative use of punctuation. "I would have used your full post name had I meant to include you in my target set: those who cannot...etc"

And I don't mean to be the adjective police, but come on. We're not playing Ad Libs here. "Cacaphonous echo chamber grab bag of meaningless cliches?" Take out any one of those adjectives and the sentence is instantly better, almost poetic. "Cacophonous echo chamber of meaningless cliches." "Echo chamber grab bag of meaningless cliches." Cacophonous echo chamber grab bag of cliches." And besides, if you're going to slam "meaningless cliches" in a sentence, it's best not to use any. (Echo chamber's out, so's grab bag.)

Content-wise, though, I'd just eliminate this whole section: "talking points, elitist biases, and truly bizarre micharacterizations of their political opponents." Talking points is a Bill O'Reilly segment, elitist biases are no worse than anti-elitist biases, and it's "truly bizarre" to think you can describe a person's motives or methods from a blog comment.

Michael and Herb, if you have to explain it ...