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		<title>By: gayforschlafly</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-372647</link>
		<dc:creator>gayforschlafly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: How hilarious is the conservatives&#039; outrage every time liberals protest? Like a conservative never protested anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: How hilarious is the conservatives' outrage every time liberals protest? Like a conservative never protested anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-370094</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DA, it is not the same but similar enough to show how disrespectful and rude such an act is.  As an invited guest Schlafy was asked to speak with the implication of people listening.

As much as people want to color this as some sort of disciplined act of dissent it remains nothing less than an immature display of the self-centered left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DA, it is not the same but similar enough to show how disrespectful and rude such an act is.  As an invited guest Schlafy was asked to speak with the implication of people listening.</p>
<p>As much as people want to color this as some sort of disciplined act of dissent it remains nothing less than an immature display of the self-centered left.</p>
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		<title>By: DA</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-368629</link>
		<dc:creator>DA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DA, next time you are in conversation with someone and you disagree with them turn your back and stand silent. I will guarantee it will be taken as an insult.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course, the situation you are describing is not at all the same.  The audience and Schlafly were not in conversation.  In a conversation, you can make clear your dissent as a part of the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DA, next time you are in conversation with someone and you disagree with them turn your back and stand silent. I will guarantee it will be taken as an insult.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course, the situation you are describing is not at all the same.  The audience and Schlafly were not in conversation.  In a conversation, you can make clear your dissent as a part of the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-368596</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DA, next time you are in conversation with someone and you disagree with them turn your back and stand silent.  I will guarantee it will be taken as an insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DA, next time you are in conversation with someone and you disagree with them turn your back and stand silent.  I will guarantee it will be taken as an insult.</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-367844</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, the raging immaturity of the &quot;academe&quot; produces another tamper tantrum.

&quot;If you recognize someone I don&#039;t like/agree with, I&#039;ll hold my breath until I turn blue. I&#039;ll show you.&quot;
SNAGS - Sensitive New-Age Geeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, the raging immaturity of the "academe" produces another tamper tantrum.</p>
<p>"If you recognize someone I don't like/agree with, I'll hold my breath until I turn blue. I'll show you."<br />
SNAGS - Sensitive New-Age Geeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-367233</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all of those criticizing academe, you should at least acknowledge that ultimately, the university did award an honorary degree to her.  How many of you would be willing to award a honor to someone on the left you strongly disagree with, such as Al Gore?

Note that I&#039;m not necessarily defending the protesters here.  I just think there is some blindness to the fundamental fact that ultimately, most of the university seemed to go along with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of those criticizing academe, you should at least acknowledge that ultimately, the university did award an honorary degree to her.  How many of you would be willing to award a honor to someone on the left you strongly disagree with, such as Al Gore?</p>
<p>Note that I'm not necessarily defending the protesters here.  I just think there is some blindness to the fundamental fact that ultimately, most of the university seemed to go along with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewski1</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-367200</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewski1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine what might have happened if a similar &quot;protest&quot; were made during one of the &quot;distinguished&quot; professors&#039; lectures.  If any of the students disagreed with the content of the lecture, or the professor giving the lecture, and decided to turn their backs, do you think the professor and administration would so calmly toss it off as a harmless protest?

Not on your life - to those in academe, it&#039;s all about who and what is being protested - it&#039;s not the  validity of the protest, nor the passion of the protester.  In their minds, only some concepts and people are allowed to be protested - others have absolute moral authority, and can demean those to whom they speak with little or no admonition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine what might have happened if a similar "protest" were made during one of the "distinguished" professors' lectures.  If any of the students disagreed with the content of the lecture, or the professor giving the lecture, and decided to turn their backs, do you think the professor and administration would so calmly toss it off as a harmless protest?</p>
<p>Not on your life - to those in academe, it's all about who and what is being protested - it's not the  validity of the protest, nor the passion of the protester.  In their minds, only some concepts and people are allowed to be protested - others have absolute moral authority, and can demean those to whom they speak with little or no admonition.</p>
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		<title>By: DA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What&#039;s remotely respectful about this? They&#039;re creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I fail to see how the protest was disrespectful in the least.  It was silent and calm.  No one was kept from listening to her.  Indeed, the protesters themselves listened to her, just with their backs turned.  I disagree that they were doing anything to try to embarrass Schlafly; I think it&#039;s quite curious if you are equating dissent with embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What's remotely respectful about this? They're creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I fail to see how the protest was disrespectful in the least.  It was silent and calm.  No one was kept from listening to her.  Indeed, the protesters themselves listened to her, just with their backs turned.  I disagree that they were doing anything to try to embarrass Schlafly; I think it's quite curious if you are equating dissent with embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-367142</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Schlafly is undeniably accomplished but it was quite predictable that this presentation would generate widespread opposition. She was on the losing side of a long, divisive cultural battle&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She was on the losing side? I wasn&#039;t aware that war was over yet. As for the battles, did the ERA get passed and nobody told me?

&lt;blockquote&gt;What&#039;s remotely respectful about this? They&#039;re creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and therein lies several points. 

1: It&#039;s not that you hate, but what, and whom, that annoys the left.
2: If this treatment were applied to AlGore, they&#039;d be having public fits and dragging the media into wall to wall mode over it.
3: Controversial standpoints, supposedly were welcomed by the schools. We now see that controversy is only allowed if it&#039;s in pursuit of leftist policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Schlafly is undeniably accomplished but it was quite predictable that this presentation would generate widespread opposition. She was on the losing side of a long, divisive cultural battle</p></blockquote>
<p>She was on the losing side? I wasn't aware that war was over yet. As for the battles, did the ERA get passed and nobody told me?</p>
<blockquote><p>What's remotely respectful about this? They're creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and therein lies several points. </p>
<p>1: It's not that you hate, but what, and whom, that annoys the left.<br />
2: If this treatment were applied to AlGore, they'd be having public fits and dragging the media into wall to wall mode over it.<br />
3: Controversial standpoints, supposedly were welcomed by the schools. We now see that controversy is only allowed if it's in pursuit of leftist policy.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it&#039;s sad to see that conservatives view students and faculty calmy, quietly registering disapproval as somehow being beyond the pale.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not at all. It&#039;s just that there&#039;s a time, place, and manner in which to do these things.  A rally before the ceremony would have been appropriate.

&lt;blockquote&gt; I would say that the description of the protest makes it sound like it was done quite respectfully, as in &quot;I respectfully disagree.&quot; What about that is even vaguely childish?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What&#039;s remotely respectful about this? They&#039;re creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.

Adults are put into positions where they have to listen to people with whom they agree all the time.  Adults don&#039;t turn their backs and make a big scene every time that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think it's sad to see that conservatives view students and faculty calmy, quietly registering disapproval as somehow being beyond the pale.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not at all. It's just that there's a time, place, and manner in which to do these things.  A rally before the ceremony would have been appropriate.</p>
<blockquote><p> I would say that the description of the protest makes it sound like it was done quite respectfully, as in "I respectfully disagree." What about that is even vaguely childish?</p></blockquote>
<p>What's remotely respectful about this? They're creating a spectacle to embarrass an invited, honored guest of the school.</p>
<p>Adults are put into positions where they have to listen to people with whom they agree all the time.  Adults don't turn their backs and make a big scene every time that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: DA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s sad to see that conservatives view students and faculty calmy, quietly registering disapproval as somehow being beyond the pale.  I would say that the description of the protest makes it sound like it was done quite respectfully, as in &quot;I respectfully disagree.&quot;  What about that is even vaguely childish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it's sad to see that conservatives view students and faculty calmy, quietly registering disapproval as somehow being beyond the pale.  I would say that the description of the protest makes it sound like it was done quite respectfully, as in "I respectfully disagree."  What about that is even vaguely childish?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/schlafly_honor_protested/comment-page-1/#comment-367035</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They act like this and then wonder why people don&#039;t respect college professors anymore?  I don&#039;t believe I have ever seen a group of &quot;professionals&quot; so reluctant to grow up and behave like adults.  I know there are many who do but as a group they continue to disappoint with consistency.

I thought dissenting from the standard point of view was a courageous thing to do?  I thought respect for opposing ideas was a sign of political maturity?  How can they ask for the students to show respect in the classroom if they won&#039;t show during a public ceremony?

It&#039;s scary to think my son will be more of an adult than those who teach him when he goes off to college.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They act like this and then wonder why people don't respect college professors anymore?  I don't believe I have ever seen a group of "professionals" so reluctant to grow up and behave like adults.  I know there are many who do but as a group they continue to disappoint with consistency.</p>
<p>I thought dissenting from the standard point of view was a courageous thing to do?  I thought respect for opposing ideas was a sign of political maturity?  How can they ask for the students to show respect in the classroom if they won't show during a public ceremony?</p>
<p>It's scary to think my son will be more of an adult than those who teach him when he goes off to college.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Houston,

The excerpt suggests that most faculty and most students did not take part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Houston,</p>
<p>The excerpt suggests that most faculty and most students did not take part.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the interesting question here is whether or not such a protest is ever appropriate, and what is the standard by which we should judge the appropriateness. For example, is such a protest appropriate against Ahmadinejad? How about Fred Phelps? Of course, it is highly unlikely that either of them would ever be given an honorary doctorate, but consider it as a hypothetical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the interesting question here is whether or not such a protest is ever appropriate, and what is the standard by which we should judge the appropriateness. For example, is such a protest appropriate against Ahmadinejad? How about Fred Phelps? Of course, it is highly unlikely that either of them would ever be given an honorary doctorate, but consider it as a hypothetical.</p>
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		<title>By: Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Controversial figure?&quot;  Please.  She&#039;s a conservative pundit.  She has opinions that most every liberal college professor disagrees with (including the civil rights attorney who introduced her).  And this is how most of those professors chose to show their immaturity (except for at least one, thank goodness).  And most of their immature students followed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Controversial figure?"  Please.  She's a conservative pundit.  She has opinions that most every liberal college professor disagrees with (including the civil rights attorney who introduced her).  And this is how most of those professors chose to show their immaturity (except for at least one, thank goodness).  And most of their immature students followed them.</p>
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