...sounds just peachy....

I've been seeing a lot of this reverse genocide tripe in a few of the more militant Turkish denial publications - All of the blame for Turkish shortcomings over the course of the last century (politically, economically and socially) are pinned on Cyprus, or Greece, or those nasty Armenians - It all seems a little bit contrived.

I suppose the blind will continue to be led by the blind.

What these Washington-beltway type lobbyist Armenian nationalists complain about is that their heroes tried to invade Turkey along with the Russian Army in 1915 and establish a separate country free of in Eastern Turkey that would ethnically cleanse TURKISH people away.

They failed. Although in 1992 they were able to kill or expell Azeris out of Western Azerbaijan.. all the meanwhile taking joy in it by calling the Azeris "Turks".

Basically the progressives in the US are being hoodwinked by right-wing Armenian revanchists who want to create a greater Armenia. They are motivated by a mythical history that existed about 1500 years ago, and of course since they were there "first" they are "right" and other people are "bad".

This is not the logic of peace, this is the logic of aggression, bitterness and endless confrontation.

I won't even tell you what I think of your comments. It's obvious to me that you have no clue about history. There are THOUSANDS of references to the Armenian Genocide in books dating back from the late 1890's. Were THOSE fabricated? I suggest you read Henry Morganthau's book as well as the Toynbee book. Oh and then there's the NY times from 1915 April and on. Were those made up too?...

Come on dude, get a grip. You're peddling nonsense. The time will come and it will come soon, where this denial machine of the turks will be a moot point. Turkeys' admission that it committed genocide against the Armenian people is merely the acceptance of history. Turkey must face it's past, BEFORE it can build it's future.

Facts:
1) Armenians lived together and prospered in the Turkish empire for over 1,000 years until Russian and British empires sought to access Caspian and Bagdad oilfields. They trained, armed and directed Armenian mercenaries to attack and recruit Turkish Armenians. The Turks were fighting the British at Gallipoli, Greeks in the Aegean, French and Italians in the South and Russians in the North. The Armenians had an army of 100,000 raiding, killing and burning Turkish and Kurdish villages. This can never be considered a Genocide. It was an armed rebellion that can be labelled as treachery by Armenians.

2. Turks lost 3 million people. The Armenians numbered 1.3 million and had 1.1 million after the war. The biggest lie is that 1.5 million died, where the numbers do not add up, considering 500,000 settled in modern Armenia, 300,000 were in Syria and Lebanon(former Ottoman
colonies) and 300,000 were living prosperous in peace in Turkey.

3. Some diaspora societies, built on trading in other nations, keep pride and ethnic solidarity by creating a hate machine. Armenians have done this since the 1960s. Prior to this period, there were no genocide issues. The death toll was first 300,000, then 600,000 in the 60s. Some got the idea that since the Turks are Muslims, they may be able to get "christian sympathy" by labelling a period of civil unrest and treachery against their Turkish nation, to ironically turn it into a Turkish massacre of them. You'll note that no Armenian will ever mention WHY and HOW MANY TURKS THEY KILLED. Their lobbies are trying hard to present it as a holocaust which Israel is staunchly against.

4. As for the late President Reagan's Armenian comment. Few know that Reagan's speech writer was of Armenian background. Just about all of Armenian support documents are either by Armenian Missionaries, or third party fabricated stories.

I suggest visiting http://www.tallarmeniantale.com.

Regards,

Thomas

I think we ought to no make assumptions about Arnold "catering to an influential subgroup."

The converse is actually the case. Bush is, unfortunately, more concerned with catering to Anakra, despite their proof of being a fair weather friend.

To think that Bush even understands the human dimension of genocide is a joke.

Bush clearly doesn't care about systematic killing of innocent civilians by Islamic terrorists in Darfur--which he has even labeled a genocide. Estimates range from 70,000-340,000 people killed & 2 million people displaced.

There is no evidence that Bush intends to demonstrate US leadership during this current massive human tragedy.

Freedom, apparently, is not going to be on the march in Darfur any time soon and a radical islamic regime is literally getting away with mass murder.