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	<title>Comments on: Scientists Say Sunshine May Prevent  Skin Cancer</title>
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		<title>By: Pat Sullivan Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46679</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Sullivan Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;So now we NEED sunshine!&lt;/strong&gt;

No big surprise, but once again scientific research is contradicting long standing beliefs held by mainstream medicine and most of the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>So now we NEED sunshine!</strong></p>
<p>No big surprise, but once again scientific research is contradicting long standing beliefs held by mainstream medicine and most of the population.</p>
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		<title>By: Inoperable Terran &#187; Flip-flop</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46659</link>
		<dc:creator>Inoperable Terran &#187; Flip-flop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rry?  Concerned scientists, of course.  This week&#8217;s big &#8220;we were wrong&#8221;: Sunlight is good for you and can prevent cancer.  In moderation, of course.  	   	Posted by Ian S [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rry?  Concerned scientists, of course.  This week&#8217;s big &#8220;we were wrong&#8221;: Sunlight is good for you and can prevent cancer.  In moderation, of course.  	   	Posted by Ian S [...]</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46638</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarity, I read the article -- it points out that getting Vitamin D from food alone isn&#039;t sufficient. The best Vitamin D (the research clearly shows) is that your body manufactures for itself.

With sunlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarity, I read the article -- it points out that getting Vitamin D from food alone isn't sufficient. The best Vitamin D (the research clearly shows) is that your body manufactures for itself.</p>
<p>With sunlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarity Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46636</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarity Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 21:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vitamin D is easy to obtain from food. Cod liver oil is a rich source. Cod liver oil obtained using modern methods is odorless and tasteless. Cherry flavor, mint flavor and orange flavor varieties are offered. The oil mixes easily into  scrambled eggs, chowder, pancakes. biscuits.

Other sources of Vitamin D are organ meats such as liver, brains, heart, kidney. 

Shark liver oil is another rich source of Vitamin D. Seal liver oil is a rich source of vitamin D. 

Plenty of options exist for getting adequate Vitamin D without resorting to Sun bathing. Sun exposure is unnecessary. You should wear sunscreen to prevent premature aging and cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vitamin D is easy to obtain from food. Cod liver oil is a rich source. Cod liver oil obtained using modern methods is odorless and tasteless. Cherry flavor, mint flavor and orange flavor varieties are offered. The oil mixes easily into  scrambled eggs, chowder, pancakes. biscuits.</p>
<p>Other sources of Vitamin D are organ meats such as liver, brains, heart, kidney. </p>
<p>Shark liver oil is another rich source of Vitamin D. Seal liver oil is a rich source of vitamin D. </p>
<p>Plenty of options exist for getting adequate Vitamin D without resorting to Sun bathing. Sun exposure is unnecessary. You should wear sunscreen to prevent premature aging and cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: TomW</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46627</link>
		<dc:creator>TomW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 17:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the NIH Conference On Cancer and Vitamin D*  last October, 
one presenter indicated that for every 2 women who avoided melanoma 
by avoiding the sun, 26 got breast cancer....

A major point was to get sun exposure - but avoid sun burn,


Tom
* See URL:  http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=14781</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the NIH Conference On Cancer and Vitamin D*  last October,<br />
one presenter indicated that for every 2 women who avoided melanoma<br />
by avoiding the sun, 26 got breast cancer....</p>
<p>A major point was to get sun exposure - but avoid sun burn,</p>
<p>Tom<br />
* See URL:  <a href="http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=14781" rel="nofollow">http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=14781</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill from INDC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46623</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill from INDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;acquires&quot; not &quot;aquires&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"acquires" not "aquires"</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from INDC</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scientists_say_sunshine_may_prevent_cancer_-_yahoo_news/comment-page-1/#comment-46622</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill from INDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 16:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and real quick - the way sunshine protects you from skin cancer is all about moderation and consistency.

Many types of skin cancer, especially melanoma, are tied to acute burns. And this is very common in a society where office workers toil indoors all year and then take a 2 week vacation in Aruba.

In contrast, a regular, small amount of sun exposure (20 minute sunny walks 3, 4, 5 times per week) slowly builds up the body&#039;s defenses against the radiation, aquires the beneficial effects and avoids the acute burns that &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; mutate the crap out of DNA and jumpstart many skin cancers.

That being said, the body&#039;s DNA could/will mutate after awhile of regular, relatively minimal sun exposure, but the acute burns are much, much worse for you. And unfortunately, our modern lifestyle predisposes us to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and real quick - the way sunshine protects you from skin cancer is all about moderation and consistency.</p>
<p>Many types of skin cancer, especially melanoma, are tied to acute burns. And this is very common in a society where office workers toil indoors all year and then take a 2 week vacation in Aruba.</p>
<p>In contrast, a regular, small amount of sun exposure (20 minute sunny walks 3, 4, 5 times per week) slowly builds up the body's defenses against the radiation, aquires the beneficial effects and avoids the acute burns that <i>really</i> mutate the crap out of DNA and jumpstart many skin cancers.</p>
<p>That being said, the body's DNA could/will mutate after awhile of regular, relatively minimal sun exposure, but the acute burns are much, much worse for you. And unfortunately, our modern lifestyle predisposes us to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from INDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill from INDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James -

I agree with you that these &quot;reversals&quot; are annoying (as my post indicates), but in this case it&#039;s not a lack of research rigor that flaws the recommendations.

Sun damage, premature aging and cancer association are rock solid, irrevocably tied to sun exposure, and this is some of the most validated research in the world. 

The first problem is, the recommendations adopted by the medical establishment take on this annoying, one-size-fits-all simplicity, something that&#039;s deemed a requisite because patients/doctors apparently lack the ability to absorb, understand and apply complex advice. 

The second flaw specifically related to this (sun exposure) scenario, is that dermatologists study the effect of the sun on the skin, and don&#039;t give a rats ass of focus to things like increased rates of colon cancer that may be a side effect of underexposure to the sun. When a dermatologist looks at reasearch that displays that sun damage occurs within 15 minutes of sun exposure, and watches as the rates of skin cancer spiral with the depletion of ozone and lifestyle choices to get baked by young people, they tailor their recommendations to &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; specialty.

So to summarize a couple of the main difficulties with modern med recommendations:

1. Simplified to a ridiculous degree, patronizing the ability of practitioners and patients to understand and correctly apply complex info.

2. An inability for specialized practitioners and researchers to view the results of research within the context of the integrated function of the body.

This second problem will become alleviated as information technology and research advances dramatoically within this next generation, I&#039;d predict. I&#039;d be careful about thinking of it as a dramatic &quot;reversal,&quot; as fears about skin damage from the sun are significant; I could write you a paper that&#039;d make you want to dig an underground house. 

It&#039;s just that a lot of dermatolgists insulted their patients with the overreactionary advice in the first place. And another huge subset of patients ARE burning themselves to death in the sun for an aesthetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James -</p>
<p>I agree with you that these "reversals" are annoying (as my post indicates), but in this case it's not a lack of research rigor that flaws the recommendations.</p>
<p>Sun damage, premature aging and cancer association are rock solid, irrevocably tied to sun exposure, and this is some of the most validated research in the world. </p>
<p>The first problem is, the recommendations adopted by the medical establishment take on this annoying, one-size-fits-all simplicity, something that's deemed a requisite because patients/doctors apparently lack the ability to absorb, understand and apply complex advice. </p>
<p>The second flaw specifically related to this (sun exposure) scenario, is that dermatologists study the effect of the sun on the skin, and don't give a rats ass of focus to things like increased rates of colon cancer that may be a side effect of underexposure to the sun. When a dermatologist looks at reasearch that displays that sun damage occurs within 15 minutes of sun exposure, and watches as the rates of skin cancer spiral with the depletion of ozone and lifestyle choices to get baked by young people, they tailor their recommendations to <i>their</i> specialty.</p>
<p>So to summarize a couple of the main difficulties with modern med recommendations:</p>
<p>1. Simplified to a ridiculous degree, patronizing the ability of practitioners and patients to understand and correctly apply complex info.</p>
<p>2. An inability for specialized practitioners and researchers to view the results of research within the context of the integrated function of the body.</p>
<p>This second problem will become alleviated as information technology and research advances dramatoically within this next generation, I'd predict. I'd be careful about thinking of it as a dramatic "reversal," as fears about skin damage from the sun are significant; I could write you a paper that'd make you want to dig an underground house. </p>
<p>It's just that a lot of dermatolgists insulted their patients with the overreactionary advice in the first place. And another huge subset of patients ARE burning themselves to death in the sun for an aesthetic.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 15:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and, ironically, the skin.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...and, ironically, the skin."</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 15:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps if we conducted medical research with standards at least as rigorous as those required by the social sciences, we could avoid this.&quot;

Ouch.  That was brutal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Perhaps if we conducted medical research with standards at least as rigorous as those required by the social sciences, we could avoid this."</p>
<p>Ouch.  That was brutal.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small correction (I think). I don&#039;t think they said it would prevent SKIN cancer, but rather, cancers in general.

I think the deal is that skin cancer, which is relatively easy to cure, may not be worth slathering yourself in sunscreen for if it turns out more deaths can be prevented if you DON&#039;T screen out the sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small correction (I think). I don't think they said it would prevent SKIN cancer, but rather, cancers in general.</p>
<p>I think the deal is that skin cancer, which is relatively easy to cure, may not be worth slathering yourself in sunscreen for if it turns out more deaths can be prevented if you DON'T screen out the sun.</p>
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