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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scooter_libby_resigns_after_indictment_/comment-page-1/#comment-62595</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odo:

You have a point, but what I have seen of prosecutors in my lifetime, &quot;Truth, Justice and the American Way&quot; to a prosecutor is &quot;Their Way or the Highway&quot;.

Just how many times have you seen prosecutors withold evidense, lie, and pull underhanded tricks in order to get an indictement or a conviction?  And, How many times have you seen prosecutors make every attempt to keep someone in prison that was proven innocent with DNA or other unrefutable evidense
Prosecutors have only one ambition, that is to further thier own agendas and to hell with anyone, And, remember, they are LAWYERS. Do you trust lawyers? 

Every prosecutor I have ever seen or heard of live by their own rule, &quot;That you are Guilty until proven innocent&quot;. That is certainly Not the American way, nor truthful, and definitely not Justice.

I really hope that you don&#039;t suscribe to the un American and underhanded ethics of prosecutors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odo:</p>
<p>You have a point, but what I have seen of prosecutors in my lifetime, "Truth, Justice and the American Way" to a prosecutor is "Their Way or the Highway".</p>
<p>Just how many times have you seen prosecutors withold evidense, lie, and pull underhanded tricks in order to get an indictement or a conviction?  And, How many times have you seen prosecutors make every attempt to keep someone in prison that was proven innocent with DNA or other unrefutable evidense<br />
Prosecutors have only one ambition, that is to further thier own agendas and to hell with anyone, And, remember, they are LAWYERS. Do you trust lawyers? </p>
<p>Every prosecutor I have ever seen or heard of live by their own rule, "That you are Guilty until proven innocent". That is certainly Not the American way, nor truthful, and definitely not Justice.</p>
<p>I really hope that you don't suscribe to the un American and underhanded ethics of prosecutors.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry &quot;truth as the light...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry "truth as the light..."</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scooter_libby_resigns_after_indictment_/comment-page-1/#comment-62551</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find it in the on-line archives (they seem to include the main statement but not Q&amp;A), but one good moment from Mr. Fitzgerald was when he talked as &quot;the light of justice&quot; or something.

I&#039;ve been going on about something similar in the last couple days - truth in a democracy.

Basically Herb, remember the words &quot;Truth, Justice, and the American Way?&quot;

... you don&#039;t sound like you&#039;re for us.  Us truth, justice, and democracy loving Americans, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't find it in the on-line archives (they seem to include the main statement but not Q&amp;A), but one good moment from Mr. Fitzgerald was when he talked as "the light of justice" or something.</p>
<p>I've been going on about something similar in the last couple days - truth in a democracy.</p>
<p>Basically Herb, remember the words "Truth, Justice, and the American Way?"</p>
<p>... you don't sound like you're for us.  Us truth, justice, and democracy loving Americans, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odo:

Aparantly you did not read past the first paragraph. I put Fitzgerld in the same class as every prosecutor I have ever seen or heard. Every prosecutor I have ever seen is a self centered, selfish, ego maniac who only serves himself for the furtherance of his own perverted intrest.

Did you honestly expect Fitzgerld to say anything to the contrary. If you did, then you are a damned fool

And Anderson, You and your lefty loony friends must be in your full glory. Your kind &quot;just can&#039;t get over it&quot;  Gore and Kerry LOST, and thats it. Your snide remarks are a joy for everyones ears, to bad that only your extremist friends listen. As I see your comments, you are one of those that I mention in the 3rd and 4th paragraph that would glory with the downfall of our government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odo:</p>
<p>Aparantly you did not read past the first paragraph. I put Fitzgerld in the same class as every prosecutor I have ever seen or heard. Every prosecutor I have ever seen is a self centered, selfish, ego maniac who only serves himself for the furtherance of his own perverted intrest.</p>
<p>Did you honestly expect Fitzgerld to say anything to the contrary. If you did, then you are a damned fool</p>
<p>And Anderson, You and your lefty loony friends must be in your full glory. Your kind "just can't get over it"  Gore and Kerry LOST, and thats it. Your snide remarks are a joy for everyones ears, to bad that only your extremist friends listen. As I see your comments, you are one of those that I mention in the 3rd and 4th paragraph that would glory with the downfall of our government.</p>
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		<title>By: Infinitely Prolonged &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scooter&#8217;s Scuttled&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infinitely Prolonged &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Scooter&#8217;s Scuttled&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scooter Libby Resigns After Indictment. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odograph, don&#039;t waste your time.  All I&#039;m awaiting from Herb is proof that Fitzgerald&#039;s in with the Freemasons, or the Elders of Zion, or the Illuminati.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odograph, don't waste your time.  All I'm awaiting from Herb is proof that Fitzgerald's in with the Freemasons, or the Elders of Zion, or the Illuminati.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 23:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I saw a typical prosecutor that was defeated in his charge of proving the âOutingâ of Plame and turning to an âanythingâ charge to vindicate his existance as a special prosecutor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This contradicts what Mr. Fitzgerald said himself.

I think he walked a very clear and rational line, based on the facts available - and the case that can currently be made.

I honestly think you&#039;d do better by trying to understand him, than by disregarding his statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I saw a typical prosecutor that was defeated in his charge of proving the âOutingâ of Plame and turning to an âanythingâ charge to vindicate his existance as a special prosecutor.</p></blockquote>
<p>This contradicts what Mr. Fitzgerald said himself.</p>
<p>I think he walked a very clear and rational line, based on the facts available - and the case that can currently be made.</p>
<p>I honestly think you'd do better by trying to understand him, than by disregarding his statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I watched Fitzgerld today in his marathon news conf. I saw a typical prosecutor that was defeated in his charge of proving the &quot;Outing&quot; of Plame and turning to an &quot;anything&quot; charge to vindicate his existance as a special prosecutor.
I have never seen or heard of any prosecutor ever admiting he was wrong or made a mistake even when there was ample evidence to show he was wrong or made an error. 

To think that after 22 months and several millions of dollars, Fitzgerld had nothing but a last ditch indictment to save his own rear end in his attempt to &quot;save face&quot;. This entire fiasco reinforces my thoughts that we have  people who call themselves Americans, doing every low down dirty trick in the books to bring down our government in any way possible. There is a warped mentality in the US that &quot;bringing down our Government&quot; is a sport that is played for the amusement of the feeding frenzy media and the oposition party.

It is sad indeed that those partaking in this sport give no thought to the damage and reprocussions to America brought on by their selfish desires.

To all those who say &quot; This is in the name of Justice and the enforcement of the law&quot; I simply say BS.  Fitzgerld did not have a news confrence today, He was giving an Audition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I watched Fitzgerld today in his marathon news conf. I saw a typical prosecutor that was defeated in his charge of proving the "Outing" of Plame and turning to an "anything" charge to vindicate his existance as a special prosecutor.<br />
I have never seen or heard of any prosecutor ever admiting he was wrong or made a mistake even when there was ample evidence to show he was wrong or made an error. </p>
<p>To think that after 22 months and several millions of dollars, Fitzgerld had nothing but a last ditch indictment to save his own rear end in his attempt to "save face". This entire fiasco reinforces my thoughts that we have  people who call themselves Americans, doing every low down dirty trick in the books to bring down our government in any way possible. There is a warped mentality in the US that "bringing down our Government" is a sport that is played for the amusement of the feeding frenzy media and the oposition party.</p>
<p>It is sad indeed that those partaking in this sport give no thought to the damage and reprocussions to America brought on by their selfish desires.</p>
<p>To all those who say " This is in the name of Justice and the enforcement of the law" I simply say BS.  Fitzgerld did not have a news confrence today, He was giving an Audition</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;White House fears indictment for Libby&lt;/strong&gt;

White House officials braced for the possibility that Vice President Dick Cheney&#039;s top aide would be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>White House fears indictment for Libby</strong></p>
<p>White House officials braced for the possibility that Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide would be</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is outrageous to imply that Libby violated the law and endangered an intelligence agent while at the same time admitting that evidence does not exist for the former and the latter is simply laughable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sigh.  JJ, you seem a little touchy on this, but let me try:

The IIPA criminalizes a very specific kind of disclosure about a very specific kind of agent.

One&#039;s status can be classified without the disclosure of same&#039;s being a crime under the IIPA.

Thus, Libby may have blown an agent&#039;s cover without violating the IIPA.

If it wasn&#039;t a crime, why not come clean in the first place?  Possibly the congenital arrogance typical of this Administration (&amp; its predecessor, etc.).  Or possibly because Libby feared an Espionage Act prosecution.

Kevin Drum notes Fitzgerald saying an Act prosecution would&#039;ve been too tricky.  That might not have been the case had Libby spilled his guts.

So Libby shied away from the frying pan and fell into the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is outrageous to imply that Libby violated the law and endangered an intelligence agent while at the same time admitting that evidence does not exist for the former and the latter is simply laughable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sigh.  JJ, you seem a little touchy on this, but let me try:</p>
<p>The IIPA criminalizes a very specific kind of disclosure about a very specific kind of agent.</p>
<p>One's status can be classified without the disclosure of same's being a crime under the IIPA.</p>
<p>Thus, Libby may have blown an agent's cover without violating the IIPA.</p>
<p>If it wasn't a crime, why not come clean in the first place?  Possibly the congenital arrogance typical of this Administration (&amp; its predecessor, etc.).  Or possibly because Libby feared an Espionage Act prosecution.</p>
<p>Kevin Drum notes Fitzgerald saying an Act prosecution would've been too tricky.  That might not have been the case had Libby spilled his guts.</p>
<p>So Libby shied away from the frying pan and fell into the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One would think the president and vice president would have become aware of that fact at some point well before now and fired him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.  A little more common ground to share between us before our next discussion ;-)

(BTW, in the televised press conference a reporter referred to Mr. Fitzgerald as being &quot;leak free&quot; and Mr. Fitzgerald then explained that while it was a felony for prosecutors and federal investigators to leak info, witnesses who were questioned are free to do so.  This might confirm my earlier suspicion that we were seeing &quot;defensive leaks&quot; from (broadly speaking) the Whitehouse.  Also, Mr. Fitzgerald he had asked some witnesses to keep their testimony private.  This might explain why some beleaguered reporters (Tim Russet?) don&#039;t talk ... they are actually doing the right thing.  This request has not been lifted yet.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One would think the president and vice president would have become aware of that fact at some point well before now and fired him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.  A little more common ground to share between us before our next discussion ;-)</p>
<p>(BTW, in the televised press conference a reporter referred to Mr. Fitzgerald as being "leak free" and Mr. Fitzgerald then explained that while it was a felony for prosecutors and federal investigators to leak info, witnesses who were questioned are free to do so.  This might confirm my earlier suspicion that we were seeing "defensive leaks" from (broadly speaking) the Whitehouse.  Also, Mr. Fitzgerald he had asked some witnesses to keep their testimony private.  This might explain why some beleaguered reporters (Tim Russet?) don't talk ... they are actually doing the right thing.  This request has not been lifted yet.)</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citations please and not Rush for your claim that weapons of mass destruction were found.  So far there were a couple of shells and dual purpose equipment that was known.

I wish to tell you guys that Stalism is not the way to go, your belief that if you repeat a lie it becomes truth leads to a loser society.  You gained nothing from your claims tat the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi except to undermine the values of those who wanted to be in your in group.

If weapons of mass destruction were found they&#039;d be in every speech by the president.  If you follow the logic of your delusion he and the Republican congress are part of the coverup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citations please and not Rush for your claim that weapons of mass destruction were found.  So far there were a couple of shells and dual purpose equipment that was known.</p>
<p>I wish to tell you guys that Stalism is not the way to go, your belief that if you repeat a lie it becomes truth leads to a loser society.  You gained nothing from your claims tat the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi except to undermine the values of those who wanted to be in your in group.</p>
<p>If weapons of mass destruction were found they'd be in every speech by the president.  If you follow the logic of your delusion he and the Republican congress are part of the coverup.</p>
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		<title>By: Part-Time Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Part-Time Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Questions Not Asked&lt;/strong&gt;

During the press conference this afternoon, US Prosecutor Fitzgerald emphasized that no one knew that Valerie Wilson/Plame worked for the FBI and that her cover has been blown. He said that she needed that cover and the blowing of that cover has harmed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Questions Not Asked</strong></p>
<p>During the press conference this afternoon, US Prosecutor Fitzgerald emphasized that no one knew that Valerie Wilson/Plame worked for the FBI and that her cover has been blown. He said that she needed that cover and the blowing of that cover has harmed...</p>
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