I have someone in my family who is mentally ill. Its not his fault. He cannot take care of himself. Right now. my wife and I are spending the money we are going to need for retirement on his care.

Yep. That's known as being responsible.
I just got through with a family situation wherein I ended up spending several thousand dollars to help out a family member in a similar situation. We buried her about 1 year ago, now, and my finances are a shambles as a result, and we still have the emotional scars, of course.

You have my sympathy, but not to the extent that I'm going to join in your call for government taking that responsibility from me. Or, you.

Real life, say you? You have no clue about my life.

Once again, you have no CLUE what you're talking about.

Whenever you speak, I suddenly get very sleepy...

In other words, boooooring

There are some disabled people out there who are absolutely extraordinary. I am glad you know one of them.

I have someone in my family who is mentally ill. Its not his fault. He cannot take care of himself. Right now. my wife and I are spending the money we are going to need for retirement on his care.

I stand by my statement. Perhaps when you have seen more of life you will become a "bit" more compassionate.

Perhaps when Bithead has seen a little more of life, he will be less dismissive of those who are unable to care for themselves.

I won't respond to this, other than to say I have some very personal history with the disabled... and that I can think of one particular blind woman who would agree rather heartily with me, that dependance is, generally over-played.

Perhaps Bit would say that everyone should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. But that can be kind of difficult for someone who has no legs…

Thanks for yet another (no pun intended, john) example of the classic "straw man" argument, anjin-san. It would perhaps be more useful if you would actually participate in the discussion rather than trying to create a non-existent argument on your adversary's behalf and attacking that.

Now all he needs is something worth saying.
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Cruel, I know.

I guess I got disenchanted with Adams when he agreed to produce the ethics training material used by my company several years back. I felt like he had gone over to the enemy.

and of course you can document this claim...

Perhaps Bit would say that everyone should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. But that can be kind of difficult for someone who has no legs...

Bithead looks forward to an America where citizens are expected to heal their own tumors, diabetes, etc., the Scott Adams way.

You and I would get along far, far better, if you'd quit trying to put words in my keyboard.

What I am remarking about is that the most important person involved in getting "you" out of trouble regardless of the circumstances, is "you".

That Scott Adams was able to do what he did is remarkable, but it is also instructive. Your response is suggestive that the lesson has already been lost on you, because it doesn't fit your world view.

That would be an improvement over the present U.S. system, but from what I've heard, France would be a better model than Canada.

I do concur that one may as well spend one's waiting time in self-hypnosis or whatever. Just imagine! "Bithead Fixes Own Brain, Now Votes Democratic." They said it couldn't be done ...

Poor citizens, that is. The rest will continue to visit doctors.