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	<title>Comments on: Scowcroft:  &#8216;Hard to Make Things Better if You Don&#8217;t Talk&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Beldar</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/scowcroft_hard_to_make_things_better_if_you_dont_talk/comment-page-1/#comment-350144</link>
		<dc:creator>Beldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At the end of the day, this is a matter of style rather than substance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but:

Style &lt;i&gt;matters&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At the end of the day, this is a matter of style rather than substance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but:</p>
<p>Style <i>matters</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Will Rogers once said, &quot;Diplomacy is the art of saying &#039;nice doggie&#039; until you can find a rock.&quot;

The epitome of &quot;rockless&quot; diplomacy is Jimmy Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Will Rogers once said, "Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a rock."</p>
<p>The epitome of "rockless" diplomacy is Jimmy Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didnt say they were, James.  But someone wiling to act is a requirement. Talking is a nice to have, usually, and sometimes is counter productive. I think Iran to be one such time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didnt say they were, James.  But someone wiling to act is a requirement. Talking is a nice to have, usually, and sometimes is counter productive. I think Iran to be one such time.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And how much of that talking progress was backed by a Presdient who was quite willing to take action?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The two aren&#039;t mutully exclusive.  Remember, Scowcroft is a West Point grad and retired 3-star general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And how much of that talking progress was backed by a Presdient who was quite willing to take action?</p></blockquote>
<p>The two aren't mutully exclusive.  Remember, Scowcroft is a West Point grad and retired 3-star general.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Beldar says elsewhere:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I am entirely certain — and both ancient and modern history of Iran and the region unequivocally teach — that nothing will be settled without the threat or use of arms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Beldar says elsewhere:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am entirely certain — and both ancient and modern history of Iran and the region unequivocally teach — that nothing will be settled without the threat or use of arms.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, there&#039;s the opening to China, the fall of the Soviet Union, and the first Gulf War.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And how much of that talking progress was backed by a Presdient who was quite willing to take action?  Soviet Union, Check. Iraq, Check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, there's the opening to China, the fall of the Soviet Union, and the first Gulf War.</p></blockquote>
<p>And how much of that talking progress was backed by a Presdient who was quite willing to take action?  Soviet Union, Check. Iraq, Check.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ah. Then, for purposes of diplomacy, I presume you&#039;d agree that an Undersecretary of State with instructions would be adequate as a representative from our side? That&#039;s pretty much what&#039;s going on now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;For diplomacy, sure, there isn&#039;t a real need for a meeting of the Presidents until they want the photo-op and press coverage, which I assume will only be after the deal is made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ah. Then, for purposes of diplomacy, I presume you'd agree that an Undersecretary of State with instructions would be adequate as a representative from our side? That's pretty much what's going on now.</p></blockquote>
<p>For diplomacy, sure, there isn't a real need for a meeting of the Presidents until they want the photo-op and press coverage, which I assume will only be after the deal is made.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
For the purposes of diplomacy, the President of Iran is close enough to being both head of government and head of state. I certainly don&#039;t see Khamenei overturning any foreign policy agreements made by Ahmadinejad.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah.  Then, for purposes of diplomacy, I presume you&#039;d agree that an Undersecretary of State with instructions would be adequate as a representative from our side?  That&#039;s pretty much what&#039;s going on now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
For the purposes of diplomacy, the President of Iran is close enough to being both head of government and head of state. I certainly don't see Khamenei overturning any foreign policy agreements made by Ahmadinejad.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah.  Then, for purposes of diplomacy, I presume you'd agree that an Undersecretary of State with instructions would be adequate as a representative from our side?  That's pretty much what's going on now.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, this is the kind of thing people used to tell themselves about Bush, too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True.  But, as Dave points out, Bush and his team &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; negotiating with the Iranians and others.

We&#039;re making real progress, for example, in the Six-Party Talks.  And I still maintain that we&#039;re looking for a diplomatic solution in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, this is the kind of thing people used to tell themselves about Bush, too.</p></blockquote>
<p>True.  But, as Dave points out, Bush and his team <em>are</em> negotiating with the Iranians and others.</p>
<p>We're making real progress, for example, in the Six-Party Talks.  And I still maintain that we're looking for a diplomatic solution in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;McCain, by contrast, wishes to present himself as a touch guy who won’t cozy up to bad actors, so he says he won’t talk to these people without some concessions.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, this is the kind of thing people used to tell themselves about Bush, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>McCain, by contrast, wishes to present himself as a touch guy who won&rsquo;t cozy up to bad actors, so he says he won&rsquo;t talk to these people without some concessions.</em></p>
<p>Yes, this is the kind of thing people used to tell themselves about Bush, too.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many years has brent Scrowcroft been &#039;talking&#039;? How many years was he in charge of such matters? How much progress was made?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well,  there&#039;s the opening to China, the fall of the Soviet Union, and the first Gulf War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many years has brent Scrowcroft been 'talking'? How many years was he in charge of such matters? How much progress was made?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well,  there's the opening to China, the fall of the Soviet Union, and the first Gulf War.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.
A little comparison is perhaps in order. How many years has brent Scrowcroft been &#039;talking&#039;? How many years was he in charge of such matters? How much progress was made?
 
OTOH, we have Ronald Reagan&#039;s talking: &quot;We begin bombing in 5 minutes&quot;, which seemed far more successful.
 
Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.<br />
A little comparison is perhaps in order. How many years has brent Scrowcroft been 'talking'? How many years was he in charge of such matters? How much progress was made?</p>
<p>OTOH, we have Ronald Reagan's talking: "We begin bombing in 5 minutes", which seemed far more successful.</p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s a fair question, however, whether the president of the United States should have direct meetings with the president of Iran, who is neither head of government nor head or state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;For the purposes of diplomacy, the President of Iran is close enough to being both head of government and head of state.  I certainly don&#039;t see Khamenei overturning any foreign policy agreements made by Ahmadinejad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's a fair question, however, whether the president of the United States should have direct meetings with the president of Iran, who is neither head of government nor head or state.</p></blockquote>
<p>For the purposes of diplomacy, the President of Iran is close enough to being both head of government and head of state.  I certainly don't see Khamenei overturning any foreign policy agreements made by Ahmadinejad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re already conducting negotiations with Iran.  It&#039;s a fair question, however, whether the president of the United States should have direct meetings with the president of Iran, who is neither head of government nor head or state.

Unfortunately, there are too many Americans, apparently including some in the Bush Administration, who don&#039;t understand that one of the purposes of ongoing diplomacy is to establish a foundation for future agreements.  The process is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We're already conducting negotiations with Iran.  It's a fair question, however, whether the president of the United States should have direct meetings with the president of Iran, who is neither head of government nor head or state.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are too many Americans, apparently including some in the Bush Administration, who don't understand that one of the purposes of ongoing diplomacy is to establish a foundation for future agreements.  The process is important.</p>
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