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	<title>Comments on: Senate Approves Detainee Treatment Rules</title>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60206</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legion, You are the perfecy example of:

&quot;You can always tell a kid, but you can&#039;t tell him much&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legion, You are the perfecy example of:</p>
<p>"You can always tell a kid, but you can't tell him much"</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60180</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Herb. I&#039;ll return the favor by awarding you the coveted &quot;Least Unexpected Schoolyard Retort&quot; award.

Herb&#039;s sartorial advice aside, I&#039;ll second Anderson&#039;s words. It takes more than a war to turn a president into an emperor... The absolute ceding of Congressional oversight and authority (by both parties) is utterly shameful. On the bright side, it sounds like this Meiers nomination has finally gotten across to the Repubs that when Bush says &#039;trust me&#039;, _everyone_ should run for cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Herb. I'll return the favor by awarding you the coveted "Least Unexpected Schoolyard Retort" award.</p>
<p>Herb's sartorial advice aside, I'll second Anderson's words. It takes more than a war to turn a president into an emperor... The absolute ceding of Congressional oversight and authority (by both parties) is utterly shameful. On the bright side, it sounds like this Meiers nomination has finally gotten across to the Repubs that when Bush says 'trust me', _everyone_ should run for cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60143</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Legion:

I just heard that OBL has awarded you the &quot;Holyer Than Thou&quot; and the &quot; Ms. Goody Two Shoes&quot; award.

If you had any power, the terrorists would own the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Legion:</p>
<p>I just heard that OBL has awarded you the "Holyer Than Thou" and the " Ms. Goody Two Shoes" award.</p>
<p>If you had any power, the terrorists would own the country.</p>
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		<title>By: The Debate Link</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60141</link>
		<dc:creator>The Debate Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 17:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Victory! (Priorities?)&lt;/strong&gt;

The Senate has voted in favor of the McCain Amendment banning torture, 90-9. My position on this was rather clear, so I&#039;m of course thrilled, and very happy at the lop-sided nature of the vote--it gives me hope that we&#039;ll prevail in what promises to ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Victory! (Priorities?)</strong></p>
<p>The Senate has voted in favor of the McCain Amendment banning torture, 90-9. My position on this was rather clear, so I'm of course thrilled, and very happy at the lop-sided nature of the vote--it gives me hope that we'll prevail in what promises to ...</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60124</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can now award the &quot;Golden Turbin Award&quot; to Leigon.  Maybe he can wear it when the extremist behead him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can now award the "Golden Turbin Award" to Leigon.  Maybe he can wear it when the extremist behead him.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, JJ, but I thought this casual disregard for the plain language of the Constitution was supposed to be a bad thing.  ;)

When was the last time we declared war, WW2?  Our military adventures since then haven&#039;t covered us in glory.

Big-picture, the 20th century saw a massive expansion of executive power, a similar expansion of judicial power ... at the expense of Congress.  

The current spectacle of corrupt Republicans running both chambers, while corrupt Democrats fear an investigation that might expose their own misdeeds, is only the latest reminder that Congress is the remainder of the swamp on which D.C. was built.

So anytime Congress shows a hint of waking up and acting like a coequal branch of gov&#039;t, rather than a rubber-stamp for Bush&#039;s policies, I&#039;m for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, JJ, but I thought this casual disregard for the plain language of the Constitution was supposed to be a bad thing.  ;)</p>
<p>When was the last time we declared war, WW2?  Our military adventures since then haven't covered us in glory.</p>
<p>Big-picture, the 20th century saw a massive expansion of executive power, a similar expansion of judicial power ... at the expense of Congress.  </p>
<p>The current spectacle of corrupt Republicans running both chambers, while corrupt Democrats fear an investigation that might expose their own misdeeds, is only the latest reminder that Congress is the remainder of the swamp on which D.C. was built.</p>
<p>So anytime Congress shows a hint of waking up and acting like a coequal branch of gov't, rather than a rubber-stamp for Bush's policies, I'm for that.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60098</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only pray Herb never gains any actual power or authority in this country.

Bush has been mumbling about vetoing this bill... after years of hollow veto threats, I hereby double-dog-dare him to make _this_ the first thing he ever vetoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only pray Herb never gains any actual power or authority in this country.</p>
<p>Bush has been mumbling about vetoing this bill... after years of hollow veto threats, I hereby double-dog-dare him to make _this_ the first thing he ever vetoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must now assume that both Republican and Democrat Senators comdone the use of torture, beheading, humiliation and outright cruelty by those who are trying their best to kill us and make the USA into a fanitical muslum state, but our people who are fighting the terrorists must be Mr/Ms &quot;goody two shoes&quot;. 

When,  are we going to learn that this is a street and alley fight and that, as long as we afford those who are doing everything possible to make every US citizen a slave to their perveted way of life, the same freedoms and privleges we enjoy, we are going to lose the battle and the war.

Those Senators who are trying to tie our hands behind our backs, I award each end evrery one of the &quot;The Golden Turban Award&quot; for their cowardness in the face of the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must now assume that both Republican and Democrat Senators comdone the use of torture, beheading, humiliation and outright cruelty by those who are trying their best to kill us and make the USA into a fanitical muslum state, but our people who are fighting the terrorists must be Mr/Ms "goody two shoes". </p>
<p>When,  are we going to learn that this is a street and alley fight and that, as long as we afford those who are doing everything possible to make every US citizen a slave to their perveted way of life, the same freedoms and privleges we enjoy, we are going to lose the battle and the war.</p>
<p>Those Senators who are trying to tie our hands behind our backs, I award each end evrery one of the "The Golden Turban Award" for their cowardness in the face of the American people.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/senate_approves_detainee_treatment_rules/comment-page-1/#comment-60094</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson: Sure.  But we haven&#039;t adhered to the Constitution with regard to the war power since virtually the beginning of the Republic.  The conflict between the president&#039;s authority as commander-in-chief vice those listed for Congress has been dubbed &quot;An invitation to struggle.&quot; For the most part,the president has won that struggle as a fait accompli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson: Sure.  But we haven't adhered to the Constitution with regard to the war power since virtually the beginning of the Republic.  The conflict between the president's authority as commander-in-chief vice those listed for Congress has been dubbed "An invitation to struggle." For the most part,the president has won that struggle as a fait accompli.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Has been considered a fundamental part of presidential authority&quot;?

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:  Congress shall have the power &quot;To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, &lt;b&gt;and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Has been considered a fundamental part of presidential authority"?</p>
<p>Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:  Congress shall have the power "To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, <b>and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water</b>."</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Senate votes to impose limits on treatment of detainees&lt;/strong&gt;

 The Senate voted Wednesday to impose restrictions on the treatment of terrorism suspects, deliverin</description>
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<p> The Senate voted Wednesday to impose restrictions on the treatment of terrorism suspects, deliverin</p>
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