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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sharpton_speech/comment-page-1/#comment-21306</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the political commentary in this blog entry is about as inane as it gets.  &quot;Astounding.&quot;  What&#039;s that supposed to mean?  You rebut an entire paragraph with, &quot;Astounding.&quot;  Alright.

Which part are denying?  That Bush has a go-it-alone foreign policy, that we&#039;re spending hundreds of billions of dollars, or that Bush changed the premise of the war after we invaded?

Since you didn&#039;t say anything substantial in any of your rebuttals, I&#039;ll just comment on this one simple point.

&quot;...said he thought we should in fact be bringing democracy to the people of Baghdad but what about the people of D.C.?  Huh?&quot;

What do you mean, &quot;Huh?&quot;  There&#039;s another high-minded rebuttal.  Have you not followed politics at all?  The DC license plate says &quot;Taxation Without Representation.&quot;  The DC delegates at the convention mentioned the fact that they do not have full representation.  Almost certainly the SINGLE-LARGEST ISSUE in DC politics is the fact that they do not have &quot;full representation in Washington,&quot; meaning there is no such thing as &quot;Senator ____&quot; from Washington, DC.  There is a Senator Michael Enzi (Republican) from Wyoming.  There&#039;s a Senator Michael Craig (Republican) from Wyoming.  There&#039;s no Senator *anything* from DC, even though there are more people in DC (mostly black and Democrat) than Wyoming (mostly white and Republican).  The balance of power in the Senate is 51-49 in favor of the Republicans.

The whole point, then, for those who STILL don&#039;t understand the concept, is that it&#039;s hypocritical for America to throw it&#039;s military around to force democracy on others when the people in our OWN NATION&#039;S CAPITAL do not fully participate in our own democracy.  In fact, as I recall, the person who&#039;s running the country right now participated in an election in 2000 in which another candidate won the popular vote.

Look up &quot;democracy&quot; in the dictionary.  I&#039;m sure after you read the definition you&#039;ll come up with a snappy response, like &quot;Astounding,&quot; or &quot;Huh?&quot;  Then you can post your thoughts in full on your unbelievably informative blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the political commentary in this blog entry is about as inane as it gets.  "Astounding."  What's that supposed to mean?  You rebut an entire paragraph with, "Astounding."  Alright.</p>
<p>Which part are denying?  That Bush has a go-it-alone foreign policy, that we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars, or that Bush changed the premise of the war after we invaded?</p>
<p>Since you didn't say anything substantial in any of your rebuttals, I'll just comment on this one simple point.</p>
<p>"...said he thought we should in fact be bringing democracy to the people of Baghdad but what about the people of D.C.?  Huh?"</p>
<p>What do you mean, "Huh?"  There's another high-minded rebuttal.  Have you not followed politics at all?  The DC license plate says "Taxation Without Representation."  The DC delegates at the convention mentioned the fact that they do not have full representation.  Almost certainly the SINGLE-LARGEST ISSUE in DC politics is the fact that they do not have "full representation in Washington," meaning there is no such thing as "Senator ____" from Washington, DC.  There is a Senator Michael Enzi (Republican) from Wyoming.  There's a Senator Michael Craig (Republican) from Wyoming.  There's no Senator *anything* from DC, even though there are more people in DC (mostly black and Democrat) than Wyoming (mostly white and Republican).  The balance of power in the Senate is 51-49 in favor of the Republicans.</p>
<p>The whole point, then, for those who STILL don't understand the concept, is that it's hypocritical for America to throw it's military around to force democracy on others when the people in our OWN NATION'S CAPITAL do not fully participate in our own democracy.  In fact, as I recall, the person who's running the country right now participated in an election in 2000 in which another candidate won the popular vote.</p>
<p>Look up "democracy" in the dictionary.  I'm sure after you read the definition you'll come up with a snappy response, like "Astounding," or "Huh?"  Then you can post your thoughts in full on your unbelievably informative blog.</p>
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		<title>By: John Acton</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sharpton_speech/comment-page-1/#comment-21187</link>
		<dc:creator>John Acton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in the segregted Deep South where different kinds of Republicans from those who run the GOP today courageously led the transformation of a reluctant society towards what most of us now agree was justice delayed. Johm Minor Wisdom and J. Skelly Wright would no more be appointed to a US Southern District bench than Earl Warren would be named to the Supreme Court. I was proud to be a Republican when the first African-American allowed to attend LSU Law School, Ernest Morial, asked me to join his campaign for the Louisiana legislature in 1966. I had recently returned to New Orleans from Yale, where a new kind of Republican was emerging, like my college mate George W. Bush, who was certainly not a segregationist but who refused to do anything to advance anyone&#039;s civil rights. When i entered Yale two years before him, there were no women, only one Black--the son of an African diplomat--there was still a &quot;numerus clausus&quot; for Jews, no Hispanic Americans (but some children of wealthy Latin businessmen and politicians), no acommodation for the deafness of Guy Struvey--who would graduate first in our class--or anyone else with a difference--like Jim Schwartz, who graduated magna cum laude despite being unable because of Cerebral Palsy to take some classes held on high floors in buildings that are now accessible. The new Republicans of YAF were much better grounded in conservative thought, classic writings, and the influence of Bill Buckley than today&#039;s dumbed down GOP, but the common denominator was indifference to injustice, inequality or suffering if it required concerted action.

I listened to the same speech you did and winced at some rhetorical solecisms, but the point Sharpton made about the course of American history and African American loyalty to the Democratic party is a sad commentary on the decline of the Party of Lincoln tp the Party of Thurmond and Helms and our contemporaries who are more concerned with looking pious than in doing justise, loving mercy and walking humbly with God. We need our own Sharptons in the GOP to speak truth to power and keep us honest.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in the segregted Deep South where different kinds of Republicans from those who run the GOP today courageously led the transformation of a reluctant society towards what most of us now agree was justice delayed. Johm Minor Wisdom and J. Skelly Wright would no more be appointed to a US Southern District bench than Earl Warren would be named to the Supreme Court. I was proud to be a Republican when the first African-American allowed to attend LSU Law School, Ernest Morial, asked me to join his campaign for the Louisiana legislature in 1966. I had recently returned to New Orleans from Yale, where a new kind of Republican was emerging, like my college mate George W. Bush, who was certainly not a segregationist but who refused to do anything to advance anyone's civil rights. When i entered Yale two years before him, there were no women, only one Black--the son of an African diplomat--there was still a "numerus clausus" for Jews, no Hispanic Americans (but some children of wealthy Latin businessmen and politicians), no acommodation for the deafness of Guy Struvey--who would graduate first in our class--or anyone else with a difference--like Jim Schwartz, who graduated magna cum laude despite being unable because of Cerebral Palsy to take some classes held on high floors in buildings that are now accessible. The new Republicans of YAF were much better grounded in conservative thought, classic writings, and the influence of Bill Buckley than today's dumbed down GOP, but the common denominator was indifference to injustice, inequality or suffering if it required concerted action.</p>
<p>I listened to the same speech you did and winced at some rhetorical solecisms, but the point Sharpton made about the course of American history and African American loyalty to the Democratic party is a sad commentary on the decline of the Party of Lincoln tp the Party of Thurmond and Helms and our contemporaries who are more concerned with looking pious than in doing justise, loving mercy and walking humbly with God. We need our own Sharptons in the GOP to speak truth to power and keep us honest.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sharpton_speech/comment-page-1/#comment-21184</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, honey, you should read those two sections more carefully because that is not what Sharpton is saying. You are correct in assessing his main criticism of the war on Iraq: the administration  misused information in order to manipulate the American public. He is criticizing the manner in which the war was conducted, but not the war itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, honey, you should read those two sections more carefully because that is not what Sharpton is saying. You are correct in assessing his main criticism of the war on Iraq: the administration  misused information in order to manipulate the American public. He is criticizing the manner in which the war was conducted, but not the war itself.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

DC isn&#039;t &quot;disenfranchised.&quot;  They aren&#039;t a state and thus don&#039;t get U.S. Senators or U.S. Representatives.  Nor, for that matter, do U.S. citizens who live in Puerto Rico or Guam. I&#039;ve discussed possible solutions to the problem elsewhere.

The problem with Sharpton&#039;s speech, though, is that he simulataneously argues we shouldn&#039;t have gone to war with Iraq but that it was correct to go over and fight for their democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>DC isn't "disenfranchised."  They aren't a state and thus don't get U.S. Senators or U.S. Representatives.  Nor, for that matter, do U.S. citizens who live in Puerto Rico or Guam. I've discussed possible solutions to the problem elsewhere.</p>
<p>The problem with Sharpton's speech, though, is that he simulataneously argues we shouldn't have gone to war with Iraq but that it was correct to go over and fight for their democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sharpton_speech/comment-page-1/#comment-21174</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; he then turned around and said he thought we 
&gt; should in fact be bringing democracy to the people
&gt; of Baghdad but what about the people of D.C.? Huh?

The problem with straw man arguments is that they&#039;re so easy to refute.  I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re feigning ignorance to make Sharpton look stupid, or if you genuinely don&#039;t know, but the population of Washington DC has long been disenfranchised from the right to vote.  The technical legal status has changed over the years, but only recently were they even allowed to vote for president (with as many electors as Wyoming, even though the population is about 2/3 bigger), and as of now, the District is not represented in Congress.

See this site for more:
http://www.dcvote.org
They&#039;re obviously &quot;biased&quot; in the sense that they&#039;re in favor of full enfranchisement for DC, but it&#039;s kind of asinine to take the opposite position, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> he then turned around and said he thought we<br />
> should in fact be bringing democracy to the people<br />
> of Baghdad but what about the people of D.C.? Huh?</p>
<p>The problem with straw man arguments is that they're so easy to refute.  I don't know if you're feigning ignorance to make Sharpton look stupid, or if you genuinely don't know, but the population of Washington DC has long been disenfranchised from the right to vote.  The technical legal status has changed over the years, but only recently were they even allowed to vote for president (with as many electors as Wyoming, even though the population is about 2/3 bigger), and as of now, the District is not represented in Congress.</p>
<p>See this site for more:<br />
<a href="http://www.dcvote.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.dcvote.org</a><br />
They're obviously "biased" in the sense that they're in favor of full enfranchisement for DC, but it's kind of asinine to take the opposite position, isn't it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really the Democrats that &quot;just believe things that simply are not true&quot;? Because I&#039;ve noticed that an awful lot of Republicans actually believed (and may still) that the war in Iraq was about &quot;freedom&quot; and &quot;human rights.&quot; Oh, and finding weapons of mass destruction. Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Where is the freedom for the countless Iraqi civilians maimed and killed in this war?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really the Democrats that "just believe things that simply are not true"? Because I've noticed that an awful lot of Republicans actually believed (and may still) that the war in Iraq was about "freedom" and "human rights." Oh, and finding weapons of mass destruction. Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Where is the freedom for the countless Iraqi civilians maimed and killed in this war?</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The African American vote may not be legally taken away, but in the year 2000 many were illegally prevented from voting in the state of Florida, thus resulting in the &quot;election&quot; of your favorite person. On a side note, I&#039;d like to watch you carefully dissect one of Bush&#039;s speeches and see what idiocies fall out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The African American vote may not be legally taken away, but in the year 2000 many were illegally prevented from voting in the state of Florida, thus resulting in the "election" of your favorite person. On a side note, I'd like to watch you carefully dissect one of Bush's speeches and see what idiocies fall out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: D.A.S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the maintainer of this website,let me just say this...It is clear that you seem to be an avid Bush supporter. For one thing, if you don&#039;t like Sharpton and plan to ride Bush until you can&#039;t anymore--be my guest.  I just believe that you are absurdly ridiculous for questioning a speech that so profoundly thought-provoking! Obviously, you are a one-sided individual who has a problem with THE TRUTH. Wake up before it&#039;s too late, please...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the maintainer of this website,let me just say this...It is clear that you seem to be an avid Bush supporter. For one thing, if you don't like Sharpton and plan to ride Bush until you can't anymore--be my guest.  I just believe that you are absurdly ridiculous for questioning a speech that so profoundly thought-provoking! Obviously, you are a one-sided individual who has a problem with THE TRUTH. Wake up before it's too late, please...</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted there is no way that Bush would take away African-Americans&#039; voting rights.  The point is that the republican party has not shown any interest in AA&#039;s, except at election time.  In order to win their people&#039;s votes, you need to do something for them.  Republicans are hard pressed to find something that they have done for AA&#039;s, and so will not get the Black vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted there is no way that Bush would take away African-Americans' voting rights.  The point is that the republican party has not shown any interest in AA's, except at election time.  In order to win their people's votes, you need to do something for them.  Republicans are hard pressed to find something that they have done for AA's, and so will not get the Black vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs for Bush</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Rounding Up Wednesday at the DNC&lt;/strong&gt;
Written by guest blogger Steven Taylor of PoliBlog. ________________________ THE BIG STORIES FROM WEDNESDAY Kerry rides a Swift Boat water taxi into town: Kerry Returns to Boston With &#039;Band of Brothers&#039;.Said the BoGlo: An election with echoes of the ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rounding Up Wednesday at the DNC</strong><br />
Written by guest blogger Steven Taylor of PoliBlog. ________________________ THE BIG STORIES FROM WEDNESDAY Kerry rides a Swift Boat water taxi into town: Kerry Returns to Boston With 'Band of Brothers'.Said the BoGlo: An election with echoes of the ...</p>
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		<title>By: QandO</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Our vote is not for sale.....because your offer isn&#039;t big enough.&lt;/strong&gt;
I&#039;m particularly interested in one claim by Al Sharpton from last night&#039;s speech... &quot;In all due respect, Mr. President, read my lips: Our vote is not for sale.&quot;Interesting. Powerful. And a bit hard to reconcile with what Al Sharpton has...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Our vote is not for sale.....because your offer isn't big enough.</strong><br />
I'm particularly interested in one claim by Al Sharpton from last night's speech... "In all due respect, Mr. President, read my lips: Our vote is not for sale."Interesting. Powerful. And a bit hard to reconcile with what Al Sharpton has...</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog(TM)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bite-Size Toast:  Recapping Wednesday in Boston&lt;/strong&gt;
Bite-Size Toast: A Supplement to this week&#039;s Toast-o-meter BITE-SIZE TOAST FOR WEDNESDAY It still appears that no bounce-producing heat has emanated from Boston. The week so far: The Pre-DNC Toast-O-Meter. The Bite Sized Toast fort Monday/Tuesday. THE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bite-Size Toast:  Recapping Wednesday in Boston</strong><br />
Bite-Size Toast: A Supplement to this week's Toast-o-meter BITE-SIZE TOAST FOR WEDNESDAY It still appears that no bounce-producing heat has emanated from Boston. The week so far: The Pre-DNC Toast-O-Meter. The Bite Sized Toast fort Monday/Tuesday. THE...</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Henley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Select black Democratic leaders have been pushing the &quot;the Repubs are going to take away our legal right to vote&quot; line on black radio for years. Jesse Jackson Jr. was retailing this on Washington stations four years ago. It&#039;s all about alarming the sh;t out of people.

When you consider that the history of Black America is one of perseverence under often terrible conditions - a heroic feat of stamina, really - the concerted effort to turn the entire community into one large client population has to rank as the Democratic Party&#039;s most appalling characteristic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Select black Democratic leaders have been pushing the "the Repubs are going to take away our legal right to vote" line on black radio for years. Jesse Jackson Jr. was retailing this on Washington stations four years ago. It's all about alarming the sh;t out of people.</p>
<p>When you consider that the history of Black America is one of perseverence under often terrible conditions - a heroic feat of stamina, really - the concerted effort to turn the entire community into one large client population has to rank as the Democratic Party's most appalling characteristic.</p>
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		<title>By: Accidental Verbosity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accidental Verbosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 03:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogging Kerry and the Dems&lt;/strong&gt;
Once again, in general, you simply want to go to Rob Sama and Katie for some great coverage of and commentary on the primetime convention proceedings for the evening.

Rob has </description>
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Once again, in general, you simply want to go to Rob Sama and Katie for some great coverage of and commentary on the primetime convention proceedings for the evening.</p>
<p>Rob has</p>
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