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	<title>Comments on: Should President Bush Fire Karl Rove?</title>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_bush_fire_rove/comment-page-1/#comment-63960</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Republicans control EVERYTHING.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dial back the hyperbole a few thousand, okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Republicans control EVERYTHING.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dial back the hyperbole a few thousand, okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_bush_fire_rove/comment-page-1/#comment-63956</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, Ken reads your posts, but is incompetant to comprehend the content. He lets his twisted lying little mind get in the way of understanding only the basics of any subject. Kens problem is that he is guilty of the same thing he accuses Bush of, LYING.

Bryan:

I said the Democrats are &quot;Masters of the big lie&quot; because there is little that they don&#039;t lie about. And, the Dems are NOT in power now because the Reps. and American people voted them OUT.  OUT,  OUT,  Now, don&#039;t let your &quot;poor loser&quot; attitude prevent you from understanding that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, Ken reads your posts, but is incompetant to comprehend the content. He lets his twisted lying little mind get in the way of understanding only the basics of any subject. Kens problem is that he is guilty of the same thing he accuses Bush of, LYING.</p>
<p>Bryan:</p>
<p>I said the Democrats are "Masters of the big lie" because there is little that they don't lie about. And, the Dems are NOT in power now because the Reps. and American people voted them OUT.  OUT,  OUT,  Now, don't let your "poor loser" attitude prevent you from understanding that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DL, Herb, and Thunderbird-

You guys sure have a skewed view of the world.  The Democrats are not &quot;sharks,&quot; not &quot;the masters of the Big Lie,&quot; and certainly do not have a &quot;master plan.&quot;  If we did, we would be in power by now.  The Republicans control EVERYTHING.  If they can&#039;t get their agenda enacted, perhaps you guys should blame the incompetent leadership of your party, rather than the rotten Democrats.  Honestly, if you can&#039;t ram through the laws you want now, how will you manage in times where you have to share power?  

And really, stop the petty crying about the Democrats constant drumbeats.  When you have no power, talking is really your only recourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DL, Herb, and Thunderbird-</p>
<p>You guys sure have a skewed view of the world.  The Democrats are not "sharks," not "the masters of the Big Lie," and certainly do not have a "master plan."  If we did, we would be in power by now.  The Republicans control EVERYTHING.  If they can't get their agenda enacted, perhaps you guys should blame the incompetent leadership of your party, rather than the rotten Democrats.  Honestly, if you can't ram through the laws you want now, how will you manage in times where you have to share power?  </p>
<p>And really, stop the petty crying about the Democrats constant drumbeats.  When you have no power, talking is really your only recourse.</p>
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		<title>By: SoloD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_bush_fire_rove/comment-page-1/#comment-63933</link>
		<dc:creator>SoloD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush supposedly asked Rove about his involvement in the leak and, if he did, either Rove lied to him, or told him the truth and allowed the President and the administration to mislead the American public.   

Put that way, he should be gone.  But this is politics and logic doesn&#039;t always have a role in the political decisions a President needs to make.  Rove will stay as long as he wants, or until he is indicted, which I think remains a real possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush supposedly asked Rove about his involvement in the leak and, if he did, either Rove lied to him, or told him the truth and allowed the President and the administration to mislead the American public.   </p>
<p>Put that way, he should be gone.  But this is politics and logic doesn't always have a role in the political decisions a President needs to make.  Rove will stay as long as he wants, or until he is indicted, which I think remains a real possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_bush_fire_rove/comment-page-1/#comment-63931</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ken: Did you actually read my post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ken: Did you actually read my post?</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Keeping Rove; being unapologetic about the war; explaining why Saddam had to be removed, that there were terror ties between Saddam and al Qaeda,....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

James, so Kristol, unsurprisingly, is counseling Bush to defend Rove by reinitiating his campaign of lies in defense of his war on Iraq. And you agree with him? 

This is a sure way to demonstrate a lack of self respect.

Is defending Rove, regardless of his immoral, unethical and treasonous transgressions, more important than our nation to you? 

You know James just because you are a Republican you still have the option of doing the right thing. Don&#039;t you? Or do you Republicans surrender your free wills when you proclaim your party affiliation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Keeping Rove; being unapologetic about the war; explaining why Saddam had to be removed, that there were terror ties between Saddam and al Qaeda,....</p></blockquote>
<p>James, so Kristol, unsurprisingly, is counseling Bush to defend Rove by reinitiating his campaign of lies in defense of his war on Iraq. And you agree with him? </p>
<p>This is a sure way to demonstrate a lack of self respect.</p>
<p>Is defending Rove, regardless of his immoral, unethical and treasonous transgressions, more important than our nation to you? </p>
<p>You know James just because you are a Republican you still have the option of doing the right thing. Don't you? Or do you Republicans surrender your free wills when you proclaim your party affiliation?</p>
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		<title>By: Bachbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bachbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does anyone think liberal attacks would stop or poll numbers improve if Bush gave in on anything?  Polling questions are skewed almost daily by the MSM.  Polled individuals are skewed to suit the MSM&#039;s aims.  Liberals, like sharks, are never satisfied with just one drop of blood.  Instead of caving, start hitting back with facts to shore up Bush&#039;s case.  Bush can&#039;t get anywhere positive by allowing his enemies to dictate his actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does anyone think liberal attacks would stop or poll numbers improve if Bush gave in on anything?  Polling questions are skewed almost daily by the MSM.  Polled individuals are skewed to suit the MSM's aims.  Liberals, like sharks, are never satisfied with just one drop of blood.  Instead of caving, start hitting back with facts to shore up Bush's case.  Bush can't get anywhere positive by allowing his enemies to dictate his actions.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Difficult to add anything to the posts above.  I agree that Bush should not can Rove.  Bush is a straightforward noncomplex individual who despite his obvious dependence on Rove communicates best when he, himself, seems fully committed to issues as he understands them.  Despite Bush&#039;s willingness to compromise, he appears to become muddled and loses his enthusiasm and focus when this occurs.  I think Rove should help Bush stand on the messages upon which he was elected twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Difficult to add anything to the posts above.  I agree that Bush should not can Rove.  Bush is a straightforward noncomplex individual who despite his obvious dependence on Rove communicates best when he, himself, seems fully committed to issues as he understands them.  Despite Bush's willingness to compromise, he appears to become muddled and loses his enthusiasm and focus when this occurs.  I think Rove should help Bush stand on the messages upon which he was elected twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should NOT fire Rove, The problem Bush has is his hesitation to play politics like the Dems do. The Dems will stoop to any level to put Bush down and Bush just sits there without saying a word. Bush must go on the offensive if he is to regain his numbers. If Bush gits rid of Rove, then the Reps better just hang it up and give Congress and the White House to the Dems in 2006 and 2008. The constant chatter by a few here on OTB gives testament that the &quot;Bush Lied&quot; campaign has had some success in spite of the fact that a lot of Dems said the same thing about WMD in Iraq, But, you never see a mention of that fact from the Dems. or the few on OTB  The entire lie that Bush lied is politics at its lowest and the Dems are masters of the Big Lie that has devided this Country and emboldened OBL and other terrorists to strike any where they want. 


Every CEO, VP, Director and Manager of any company has the duty and responsibility to be loyal to those who are loyal to them and Bush is no exception. If Rove leaves, the Dems will cry &quot;Success&quot; and tell the world that they (Dems) have now &quot;proven&quot; that &quot;Bush Lied&quot;. 

Bush had best keep Rove &quot;on staff&quot; and start his own campaign of tearing down the Democrat Lie or he, (Bush) is through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should NOT fire Rove, The problem Bush has is his hesitation to play politics like the Dems do. The Dems will stoop to any level to put Bush down and Bush just sits there without saying a word. Bush must go on the offensive if he is to regain his numbers. If Bush gits rid of Rove, then the Reps better just hang it up and give Congress and the White House to the Dems in 2006 and 2008. The constant chatter by a few here on OTB gives testament that the "Bush Lied" campaign has had some success in spite of the fact that a lot of Dems said the same thing about WMD in Iraq, But, you never see a mention of that fact from the Dems. or the few on OTB  The entire lie that Bush lied is politics at its lowest and the Dems are masters of the Big Lie that has devided this Country and emboldened OBL and other terrorists to strike any where they want. </p>
<p>Every CEO, VP, Director and Manager of any company has the duty and responsibility to be loyal to those who are loyal to them and Bush is no exception. If Rove leaves, the Dems will cry "Success" and tell the world that they (Dems) have now "proven" that "Bush Lied". </p>
<p>Bush had best keep Rove "on staff" and start his own campaign of tearing down the Democrat Lie or he, (Bush) is through.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he does, the liberals are, once again, controlling how the Republicans govern.

It is time to stop walking softly, but carry that big stick and start using it.

Demand the liberals stop obstructing how the voter&#039;s chose to run this country, simply because they couldn&#039;t ressurect sufficient numbers of dead democrats in the last election.

Notice should have been served to the Dems the day they pulled the rule 51 crap, that such action now sets the republicans free to use the nuclear option without their permission - since it was well understood by the masses to be mis-use of the rules for political partisan gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he does, the liberals are, once again, controlling how the Republicans govern.</p>
<p>It is time to stop walking softly, but carry that big stick and start using it.</p>
<p>Demand the liberals stop obstructing how the voter's chose to run this country, simply because they couldn't ressurect sufficient numbers of dead democrats in the last election.</p>
<p>Notice should have been served to the Dems the day they pulled the rule 51 crap, that such action now sets the republicans free to use the nuclear option without their permission - since it was well understood by the masses to be mis-use of the rules for political partisan gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your question, I think I can sum this up quickly;
The answer is: &#039;No&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question, I think I can sum this up quickly;<br />
The answer is: 'No'.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he has a lot of good points.

Bush seems to be at his worst, when he is trying to please the other side of the aisle.  If Bush would go conservative-and support a strong fiscal conservative stance in addition to the social conservatism, I think he would do better.

I also think he should fire somebody-but not Rove, I think it is time for McClellan and the admin&#039;s press people to get a change up.  I think the Admin does a terrible job in the media relations area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he has a lot of good points.</p>
<p>Bush seems to be at his worst, when he is trying to please the other side of the aisle.  If Bush would go conservative-and support a strong fiscal conservative stance in addition to the social conservatism, I think he would do better.</p>
<p>I also think he should fire somebody-but not Rove, I think it is time for McClellan and the admin's press people to get a change up.  I think the Admin does a terrible job in the media relations area.</p>
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