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	<title>Comments on: Should NBC Have Aired the Va Tech Killer&#8217;s Video?</title>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_nbc_have_aired_the_va_tech_killers_video/comment-page-1/#comment-120829</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Sure. We can be buds and disagree most of the time, no?

Tlaloc,

Our problem here is not that we misunderstand each other. I am fundamentally opposed to what you consider to be &quot;the right thing&quot;. 

Cho and /or the terrorists may do things to get attention, and we may all wish that they do not get this wish, or any of their wishes. But when that bumps up against our right to know, as opposed to being spoon-fed packaged information, then its just too bad. The terrorists will get their attention, sad to say. 

People living in totalitarian regimes are &quot;protected&quot; against all manner of information, and this probably lessens the payoff to terrorists working against those regimes. This is consistent for the totalitarian regime, because they have no concept of the necessity nor the desirablity of an informed citizenry. Its not a tradeoff that I consider worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Sure. We can be buds and disagree most of the time, no?</p>
<p>Tlaloc,</p>
<p>Our problem here is not that we misunderstand each other. I am fundamentally opposed to what you consider to be "the right thing". </p>
<p>Cho and /or the terrorists may do things to get attention, and we may all wish that they do not get this wish, or any of their wishes. But when that bumps up against our right to know, as opposed to being spoon-fed packaged information, then its just too bad. The terrorists will get their attention, sad to say. </p>
<p>People living in totalitarian regimes are "protected" against all manner of information, and this probably lessens the payoff to terrorists working against those regimes. This is consistent for the totalitarian regime, because they have no concept of the necessity nor the desirablity of an informed citizenry. Its not a tradeoff that I consider worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, they put it in terms of not giving the evil ones the attention that they want, or some other self-righteous drivel, but what it comes down to is that they (or some authority figure) gets to package the information and present us with a version that they think we can handle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You misunderstand.  I&#039;m not saying someone should have stepped in and put a stop to it.  I&#039;m saying we collectively should have known better and never done it in the first place.  

But we don&#039;t and we didn&#039;t.  And that&#039;s about the best proof there is that we&#039;re going to lose ultimately.  We&#039;re just not smart enough again collectively to do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh, they put it in terms of not giving the evil ones the attention that they want, or some other self-righteous drivel, but what it comes down to is that they (or some authority figure) gets to package the information and present us with a version that they think we can handle.</p></blockquote>
<p>You misunderstand.  I'm not saying someone should have stepped in and put a stop to it.  I'm saying we collectively should have known better and never done it in the first place.  </p>
<p>But we don't and we didn't.  And that's about the best proof there is that we're going to lose ultimately.  We're just not smart enough again collectively to do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/should_nbc_have_aired_the_va_tech_killers_video/comment-page-1/#comment-120811</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Tano, thanks for the compliment.  I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m not the brightest bulb in this pack.  You said it much more eloquently than I did.  We do not need gatekeepers of information deciding what we are privy to and what we are not.

Now are we best buds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Tano, thanks for the compliment.  I'll admit I'm not the brightest bulb in this pack.  You said it much more eloquently than I did.  We do not need gatekeepers of information deciding what we are privy to and what we are not.</p>
<p>Now are we best buds?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only real problem I have with NBC airing it is that they treated it as a proprietary asset and used it to earn what can only be considered as blood money. Had they made it available to all the other networks this charge wouldn&#039;t hold up. Had they offered it to all the other networks the earlier comparison to showing the 9/11 atrocities would make more sense as well.

Personally, I&#039;d rather we all agreed to never mention the bastard&#039;s name again to rob him of the notoriety he craved and to help prevent any copycat crazies. 

(Typos corrected, sorry.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real problem I have with NBC airing it is that they treated it as a proprietary asset and used it to earn what can only be considered as blood money. Had they made it available to all the other networks this charge wouldn't hold up. Had they offered it to all the other networks the earlier comparison to showing the 9/11 atrocities would make more sense as well.</p>
<p>Personally, I'd rather we all agreed to never mention the bastard's name again to rob him of the notoriety he craved and to help prevent any copycat crazies. </p>
<p>(Typos corrected, sorry.)</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only real problem I have with NBC airing it is that they treated it as a proprietary asset and used it to earn what can only be considered as blood money.  Had they made it available to all the other networks this charge wouldn&#039;t hold up.  Had they offered it to all the other networks the earlier comparison to showing the 9/11 atrocities would make more sense as well.

Personally, I&#039;d rather we all agreed to never mention the bastards name again to rob him of the notariety he craved and to help prevent any copycat crazies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real problem I have with NBC airing it is that they treated it as a proprietary asset and used it to earn what can only be considered as blood money.  Had they made it available to all the other networks this charge wouldn't hold up.  Had they offered it to all the other networks the earlier comparison to showing the 9/11 atrocities would make more sense as well.</p>
<p>Personally, I'd rather we all agreed to never mention the bastards name again to rob him of the notariety he craved and to help prevent any copycat crazies.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, I actually agree with something that Steve Plunk wrote. Something is seriously wrong.

I find this discussion fascinating - for it shows how little respect there is in our society for what real freedom means. So many people here, if given a little power - as gatekeepers - would love to exercise that power to decide what the rest of us get to know about the world.

Oh, they put it in terms of not giving the evil ones the attention that they want, or some other self-righteous drivel, but what it comes down to is that they (or some authority figure) gets to package the information and present us with a version that they think we can handle.

I say no. We are free people, and not only entitled to unfettered access to information, but I think we have at least some moral responsibility to seek out as much information as possible if we are to play our full role as citizens in a democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, I actually agree with something that Steve Plunk wrote. Something is seriously wrong.</p>
<p>I find this discussion fascinating - for it shows how little respect there is in our society for what real freedom means. So many people here, if given a little power - as gatekeepers - would love to exercise that power to decide what the rest of us get to know about the world.</p>
<p>Oh, they put it in terms of not giving the evil ones the attention that they want, or some other self-righteous drivel, but what it comes down to is that they (or some authority figure) gets to package the information and present us with a version that they think we can handle.</p>
<p>I say no. We are free people, and not only entitled to unfettered access to information, but I think we have at least some moral responsibility to seek out as much information as possible if we are to play our full role as citizens in a democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes, like all liberals ...&lt;/em&gt;

This is a good way to start a comment.  It gives fair warning that what you are about to read is a list of generalizations that make the writer feel good.

There isn&#039;t a news organization in existence that would have witheld the videos from the crazy sucker: and, man, was he crazy.

Actually, American media is a little more restrained than some others.  They haven&#039;t shown things like the beheading of Nick Berg or all the dead bodies lying around after a bombing in Iraq.  And I don&#039;t mean that as an anti-war comment, just that the media has been fairly restrained in showing the carnage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yes, like all liberals ...</em></p>
<p>This is a good way to start a comment.  It gives fair warning that what you are about to read is a list of generalizations that make the writer feel good.</p>
<p>There isn't a news organization in existence that would have witheld the videos from the crazy sucker: and, man, was he crazy.</p>
<p>Actually, American media is a little more restrained than some others.  They haven't shown things like the beheading of Nick Berg or all the dead bodies lying around after a bombing in Iraq.  And I don't mean that as an anti-war comment, just that the media has been fairly restrained in showing the carnage.</p>
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		<title>By: not the senator</title>
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		<dc:creator>not the senator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like censorship in any venue. There should be warnings allowing those who do not wish to view the material the opportunity to avoid it, but how can we learn from an event if we are denied the evidence?

To avoid the glorification of a murderer like Cho, maybe we should switch immediately from his posturing for the camera to the results of it. His post-suicide picture showing him so mangled that he was unidentifiable. That makes the whole &#039;going out in a blaze of glory&#039; thing a lot less appetizing. These kids who grow up on the sanitized violence of movies and video games don&#039;t realize how grisly life really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't like censorship in any venue. There should be warnings allowing those who do not wish to view the material the opportunity to avoid it, but how can we learn from an event if we are denied the evidence?</p>
<p>To avoid the glorification of a murderer like Cho, maybe we should switch immediately from his posturing for the camera to the results of it. His post-suicide picture showing him so mangled that he was unidentifiable. That makes the whole 'going out in a blaze of glory' thing a lot less appetizing. These kids who grow up on the sanitized violence of movies and video games don't realize how grisly life really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it would boost ratings NBC would rape a child on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it would boost ratings NBC would rape a child on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly I think not-while it was sent to them, and they could do it, showing it doesn&#039;t sit right with me mostly because it seems to give him at least some fame and notoriety, and I would rather see the media seek to limit that-sure he won&#039;t be aware of what the media did, but others who might want to go out in a blaze of glory for whatever reason might find it interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly I think not-while it was sent to them, and they could do it, showing it doesn't sit right with me mostly because it seems to give him at least some fame and notoriety, and I would rather see the media seek to limit that-sure he won't be aware of what the media did, but others who might want to go out in a blaze of glory for whatever reason might find it interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a big difference between the Cho video and the WTC collapse.  The first was single actor.  Making him famous versus the public right to know/understand is an open question and good arguments can be made either way.

The WTC was a planned media event, it wasn&#039;t a physical attack so much as an attempt to create a psychological effect.  So what&#039;d we do?  We took that emotionally powerful image and fed into the world&#039;s largets media machine to make sure it was in everyone&#039;s face.

&lt;em&gt;Brilliant.&lt;/em&gt;

Imagine how much it would have cost for someone we don&#039;t hate to buy that kind of advertising coverage?  Al Qaeda got it for the price of a couple box cutters and nail clippers.  Why?  Cause we decided to give it to them.

No wonder we&#039;re losing.  Darwinism in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's a big difference between the Cho video and the WTC collapse.  The first was single actor.  Making him famous versus the public right to know/understand is an open question and good arguments can be made either way.</p>
<p>The WTC was a planned media event, it wasn't a physical attack so much as an attempt to create a psychological effect.  So what'd we do?  We took that emotionally powerful image and fed into the world's largets media machine to make sure it was in everyone's face.</p>
<p><em>Brilliant.</em></p>
<p>Imagine how much it would have cost for someone we don't hate to buy that kind of advertising coverage?  Al Qaeda got it for the price of a couple box cutters and nail clippers.  Why?  Cause we decided to give it to them.</p>
<p>No wonder we're losing.  Darwinism in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should not have shown it.  A retired FBI profiler on Keith Olberman&#039;s show said the photos of Cho with the pistols would &quot;energizing&quot; to someone contemplating similar activity.  He said certainly talk about it, describe it, but don&#039;t show the visual.  This coming from a man who has spent his career getting inside killers&#039; heads.  And after his segment was over?  MSNBC broadcast another photo of Cho pointing a gun at the camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should not have shown it.  A retired FBI profiler on Keith Olberman's show said the photos of Cho with the pistols would "energizing" to someone contemplating similar activity.  He said certainly talk about it, describe it, but don't show the visual.  This coming from a man who has spent his career getting inside killers' heads.  And after his segment was over?  MSNBC broadcast another photo of Cho pointing a gun at the camera.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson, come on, it&#039;s gotta be right because we want to see it, because we want to understand it, dude I know that you are smarter then this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson, come on, it's gotta be right because we want to see it, because we want to understand it, dude I know that you are smarter then this.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, like all liberals they have the right to be heartless, outrageous, careless fools without a God blessed care for the feelings of others and or the harm the cause with the sensationalizing of the last wish of the murder that they have granted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, like all liberals they have the right to be heartless, outrageous, careless fools without a God blessed care for the feelings of others and or the harm the cause with the sensationalizing of the last wish of the murder that they have granted!</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, airing it was right, not b/c Cho wanted it aired, but because *we* wanted to see it -- wanted to understand more of what kind of person did this.  

(&quot;Seriously crazy&quot; would seem to be the answer, not surprisingly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, airing it was right, not b/c Cho wanted it aired, but because *we* wanted to see it -- wanted to understand more of what kind of person did this.  </p>
<p>("Seriously crazy" would seem to be the answer, not surprisingly.)</p>
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