Comments on: Soldiers Sue over Extended Enlistments

By: LJD

LJD — Thu, 09 Dec 2004 17:59:56 +0000

Why do we always get back to the draft? What about mandatory national service? You don't have to fight, you don't even have to carry a gun. You just have to contribute to something bigger than yourself to be an American. It is an equal effort by the rich AND those scamming welfare.

By: John

John — Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:52:18 +0000

It is easy for us, sitting here in a nice warm home to say "those idiots should have known" but lets face it, there are not enough volunteers in our all volunteer Army.
What we need is a fair draft that could draft you, me, or anyone.

Lets see how many of you are for that ;-)

Oh, and Patriot, our soldiers don't rape the poor of Iraq. Sadam and his clan along with Kofi Anan however, seem to be expert at it.

By: LJD

LJD — Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:54 +0000

Anjin-San:
Don't forget about the flight suit! Get some new material, unless, you don't have any.

Ken:
Any one who has joined the military KNOWS it's for 8 years, unless they're stupid.
...and I've got a great real estate opportunity for you, hopefully your government will protect you.

Patriot (more like comrade):
You are soo full of shit. Viva Fidel Castro! Now move to Cuba.

By: Anjin-San

Anjin-San — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:11:16 +0000

Patriot,

While I think the war in Iraq is a tragic mistake, I also think your attack on our troops is sadly misguided.

I am very grateful to the guys who are willing to put their asses on the line for OUR freedom. The fact that I think the Bush administration has betrayed them does not change this...

By: Intermittent Stream

Intermittent Stream — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:37:32 +0000

Benedict Arnold Returns!
You know what? Anyone who volunteers to serve in the military volunteers their life to be used as the nation sees fit. Once you volunteer, you have no option to leave whenever you feel like it or decide when and...

By: Patriot

Patriot — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:29:27 +0000

Thank you, Anjin-San, great point.

The rest of you are blood-stained chicken hawks. Why aren't you cowards raping the poor of Iraq for yourselves, eh? Scared you don't have what it takes to waste a child for your country?

The only legitimate action any patriot can take is to refuse to serve in the chimp-in-chief's imperialist wars of aggression. The ONLY soldiers worthy of support are those that fight the system and refuse to go. I pray every day that the bloodthirsty jocks who sign up to oppress the poor of the world get EVERYTHING that's coming to them.

By: ken

ken — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:51:02 +0000

The legal issue is really simple. It is a matter of the contract. If his agreement was for one year with no mention of a unilateral extension then Qualls is correct and he should be released from service. If there was a clause allowing the service to keep him against his will then he is the loser.

The fairness issue however is more complex. If he was persuaded to join the reserves just to try it out for one year and the small print was ignored or dismissed as irrelevant by his recruiter, and if it was common practice to decieve recruits this way, then Qualls has a point. The government should not be in the business of snookering people into contracts they would not have otherwise agreed to sign.

Between non-government parties it is perhaps common practice to gain an unfair advantage, but your government should be trusted to deal squarely with all citizens.

By: Mort

Mort — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:27:23 +0000

Not that I would concider it but I was under the impression that while you are still in a contract you can not sue the government. That person is now goverment proporty and you go where your told to go. Period! The military isn't there so people can get a free education that just happends to be one of the benifits for serving your country. Now go serve it like you agreed to do!

By: Anjin-San

Anjin-San — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:59:23 +0000

The president could not be bothered to take a mandatory physical that was part of his military obligation during wartime. He managed to "make a deal" with the military to get out of part of his service.

Guess actually fufilling your entire oblgation is just for the peasants...

By: Jeff Quinton

Jeff Quinton — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:49:03 +0000

My first National Guard unit was in Charleston so they got a lot of prior USAF and USN people doing the "Try One" contract thing. All it took was one trip to the field for them to decide not to re-enlist usually (and we were usually around a Bde TOC when we went to the field too - it's not like we were a line unit.)

By: Bithead

Bithead — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:32:27 +0000

It'd be interestng to see who is funding the suit.

By: Chuckg

Chuckg — Tue, 07 Dec 2004 14:20:32 +0000

Apparently, these idiots have never read the '... or for the duration' part of the contract. They might call it 'exigencies of the service' now. At any rate, my recruiter at least made it clear to me that if a war happened to break out in the middle of my hitch, I most likely wouldn't be going anywhere until it was done, whether it ran over my EAOS or not.