Oh well thank god that we have someone as qualified as yourself to decide which of us are idiots and which are not.

Couldn't possibly disagree with you more.

Thank god, finally someone who understands a flame war.

Avery Brooks isn't even in the same goddamn galaxy as Patrick Stewart when it comes to acting chops.

now seriously...
Patrick is a fine actor, no doubt, but too much of the time he was given trash writing. Only so much an actor can do with a TNG script. Brooks is a decent actor and had access to the vastly superior DS9 writing.

The new series are ranked as follows and anyone who disagrees is an idiot:

1) Deep Space 9 (deep over arching plot, good acting, complicated and interesting politics)

2) The Next Generation (first couple seasons were irredeemably stupid, after that occasional flashes of good stuff, and by the end of the series you had more hits than misses, loses points for the Q character and Wesley)

Oh well thank god that we have someone as qualified as yourself to decide which of us are idiots and which are not.

Couldn't possibly disagree with you more.

Avery Brooks isn't even in the same goddamn galaxy as Patrick Stewart when it comes to acting chops. The distance between them is as large as from Shatner up to Brooks. Picard was everything I want in a series lead, whereas Sisko was a mopey, emo, cloud of gloom for 7 seasons. No thanks.

Anjin, maybe you can have a word with Triumph, then.

Ahh, but the key difference is that Triumph's words are parody...G.A.Phillips appears to be quite serious...

GA... Can't you just let us have a friendly post about Star Trek without injecting your rather lame political comments into the mix? Let's keep the flag of truce up over the music & movie posts...

Anjin, maybe you can have a word with Triumph, then.

Kira and Dax were truly awful, but they could both kick the crap out of a klingon who was 6' 8" 300 pounds and lived to fight.

No, no, no. They could beat up Worf. Everyone beat up Worf. It was de rigeur on TNG that the bad guy one punch Worf. This was supposed to prove how bad he was but after it happened in every episode the audience had to conclude Worf was just a pansy.

I distinctly remember an episode where Worf attacks an unarmed human med tech by surprise and actually wins! It was notable. (for the record it was the episode where an energy creature is picked up by the enterprise accidentally and it body jumps. So Worf was possessed when he attacked, maybe that's why he won).

1. TNG - Strong characters, Picard, Riker, Data, Worf. Troi not so much but serious eye candy. Dr. Crusher was a decent character and her relationship with Picard made for some interesting story lines. Points off for Wesley, and Tasha Yar, who they at least had the good sense to kill. First season did pretty much suck, but they got it straightened out.

Great new protagonists Q & the Borg. TNG produced some lame episodes, but when it was good, it was very, very good.

2. I am not sure if there is any point in going on, all of the other shows were pretty bad.

DS9, the only good characters were aliens. Avery Brooks is a good actor, but his endless smolder as Sisko got old fast. Jake was possibly more annoying then Welsey Crusher. Kira and Dax were truly awful, but they could both kick the crap out of a klingon who was 6' 8" 300 pounds and lived to fight. Very believable. Miles O'Brien was not too annoying in his minor role on TNG, but he got far too much screen time here. Did anyone ever give a rat's ass about Bejor? Only the ferengi based episodes were worth watching. They tried to redeem the series by creating a war with the dominion, this is not what Roddenberry would have wanted.

Voyager - Hmmm, There were some decent episodes, but not many. "Scorpion" was very good. Characters were all very forgettable.

Enterprise. Rick Berman really tried hard to put the nail in the franchise coffin.

But enough of that, despite Joyner's coy phrasing let's turn this into a good old fashioned fanboy flamefest-

The new series are ranked as follows and anyone who disagrees is an idiot:

1) Deep Space 9 (deep over arching plot, good acting, complicated and interesting politics)

2) The Next Generation (first couple seasons were irredeemably stupid, after that occasional flashes of good stuff, and by the end of the series you had more hits than misses, loses points for the Q character and Wesley)

3) Voyager (Premise had potential but almost never lived up to it, a few of the characters were interesting and developed- the doctor and 7 of 9 particularly, most of the others were cardboard- particularly Kim/Paris, Loses points for Chakotay)

4) Enterprise (Good lord how can anything suck so much? Terrible cast, non-existent acting, idiotic plots, insultingly gratuitous titillation, Captain Quantum Leap, had a couple premises that might have been interesting if they hadn't been handled with all the wit and deftness of a kindergarten class on PCP).

What you got, biotch?

"Trouble With Tribbles" lol, reminds me of our trouble with liberals, same plot line.

GA... Can't you just let us have a friendly post about Star Trek without injecting your rather lame political comments into the mix? Let's keep the flag of truce up over the music & movie posts...

Of course it's corny. It's space opera. The only question is whether it's good space opera or bad space opera.

Scanning my Google Reader feeds, just about everybody loves Trek.

I hate it.

This is primarily due to the fact that the Trek is a product of Hollywood making it--by default--liberal. The film's director, JJ Abrams, is a huge Obama supporter, making the film problematic in my book.

I am sure the film is nothing but socialist dreck.