Comments on: Sullivan: Conservatives are Fascists

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 24 May 2007 17:40:58 +0000

bains,
Only I didn't stretch to absurdity anything that was said. Again, show me where I was uncivil, apologize, or just stop posting.

By: bains

bains — Thu, 24 May 2007 02:02:29 +0000

Ah, so civility on a political opinion forum means not expressing political opinions others might disagree with?

No, civility means you express your disagreement with... civility. You dont stretch to absurd something some one else said, and you dont try to mis-represent what they have said. Greenwald has already tried that... and failed.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 22 May 2007 19:26:31 +0000

Civility begets civility Mike. Sometimes being civil is merely keeping ones opinions to oneself - especially if one is prone to expressing those opinions snidely.

Ah, so civility on a political opinion forum means not expressing political opinions others might disagree with? Or that sarcasm is somehow below the line of civility on the internet?

You want to tell me my opinions are wrong, fine. You want to do that though sarcasm, more power to you. You want to drop petty insults that add no additional information or perspective on a topic and serve only to inflame emotions, that I don't find civil.

For the record, I was never uncivil to you or anyone else on this thread, and you have yet to provide any evidence otherwise.

By: James Joyner

James Joyner — Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:08 +0000

"Democrat" is a perfectly acceptable noun but considered a slur when used as an adjective. One could say "Barack Obama is a lifelong Democrat" but not "Barack Obama wants to be the nominee of the Democrat Party." I think this one is another legacy of Newt Gingrich, although it may go back a bit earlier.

By: floyd

floyd — Tue, 22 May 2007 04:19:00 +0000

bains;
Have you noticed that Obama lists his party as the Democrat "party" on his website?

By: bains

bains — Tue, 22 May 2007 03:50:03 +0000

Civility begets civility Mike. Sometimes being civil is merely keeping ones opinions to oneself - especially if one is prone to expressing those opinions snidely. You want to take offense at another referring to the Democratic Party as 'Democrat' Party, fine, you want to object to comparisons of the Dems to socialists, fine. But if you do so in a petulant way, dont be surprised when you get called on it. And whining about doesnt help your ~~hobby horse~~ cause.

By: The Daily Dish

The Daily Dish — Mon, 21 May 2007 23:03:41 +0000

[...] James Joyner responds to my reader email of yesterday. Yes, he's largely right. But the Bush administration's doctrine of executive power, its disregard for the rule of law, its politicization of the Justice Department, its indefinite abridgment of habeas corpus, its deployment of torture against detainees, including an American citizen, are cause for serious concern. I think James agrees. I also like to publish emails that push envelopes. The only seriously fascistic element in this administration is torture, the mark of fascist regimes everywhere. But creeping authoritarianism is absolutely a threat. [...]

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 May 2007 12:25:37 +0000

Hmmm, nothing upthread either, so why don't you post an actual example, apologize, or just shut the hell up.

By: bains

bains — Mon, 21 May 2007 03:31:10 +0000

Upthread pal...

My mom is well, thanks for asking.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 May 2007 02:46:16 +0000

I'm sorry Mike, I did not realize that you were asking to be treated differently than you treat your political opponents.

Examples, please. Otherwise, this is no different than how you talk bad about motherhood and apple pie.

By: bains

bains — Mon, 21 May 2007 02:09:05 +0000

Hey, why not insult us one more time... We're asking for civility,...

I'm sorry Mike, I did not realize that you were asking to be treated differently than you treat your political opponents.

I'd hazard a guess that you take objection to the usage of illegal alien as well...

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:33:31 +0000

absent: That was sarcasm, not concern trolling.

By: absent observer

absent observer — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:27:05 +0000

Michael: Hey, why not insult us one more time to prove how mature you are.

My GOSH, Scarlett! I do say, how your blush must run! The outrage!

--- and Michael was becoming such a good concern troll! ---

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:02:40 +0000

No Mike, I was merely pointing out that petulance abounds. To use "Democrat party" is improper, and juvenile. To decry that usage is equally juvenile. But to claim that the usage is an epithet is childish.

Hey, why not insult us one more time to prove how mature you are. We're asking for civility, and while that may be naive on a political forum, it is by no means juvenile or childish.

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:00:16 +0000

It is grandly ironic to here of liberals speak of fascism. Who is it that kills those who it deems unworthy for life

Death penalty

, who is it that suppress all but but what they believe in

Gay marraige ammendment

, who is it that regulates everyday life because they know better then the rest of us

Terri's law

, who is it that teaches only what they believe in

Intelligent Design

,who is it that would take away the freedom of all speech but their own

Free speech zones

, who is it that rights laws with nontraditional and unconstitutional methods to enact all of the above

The Republican congress that held power to write laws for the past decade