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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/supreme_court_did_not_pick_bush/comment-page-1/#comment-87713</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW - here are all the permuations - in interactive form:

http://www.nytimes.com/images/2001/11/12/politics/recount/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW - here are all the permuations - in interactive form:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/images/2001/11/12/politics/recount/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/images/2001/11/12/politics/recount/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III: It&#039;s called projection and the Angry Left has it in spades.  They just can&#039;t comprehend that everyone doesn&#039;t think and act like they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III: It's called projection and the Angry Left has it in spades.  They just can't comprehend that everyone doesn't think and act like they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Elmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Why wonâ��t this canard die?&#039;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Howie&#039;s been steeling sips a Kool-Aid ....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Why wonâ��t this canard die?'</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/" rel="nofollow"><br />
Howie's been steeling sips a Kool-Aid ....</a></p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Funny, isnâ��t it, how all the irregularities happened in states with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oops. That should have read,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Funny, isnâ��t it, how all the irregularities happened in &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;counties&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We morons are entitled to call each other morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Funny, isnâ��t it, how all the irregularities happened in states with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oops. That should have read,</p>
<blockquote><p>Funny, isnâ��t it, how all the irregularities happened in <b><i>counties</i></b> with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.</p></blockquote>
<p>We morons are entitled to call each other morons.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;as you can see by the comments, there are to many irregularities and of course the bush family canâ��t be trustedâ�¦if his brothere didnâ��t run the state and if you didnâ��t have a highly partisan secretary of state handling things maybe we wouldnâ��t question so much!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny, isn&#039;t it, how all the irregularities happened in states with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.

Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>as you can see by the comments, there are to many irregularities and of course the bush family canâ��t be trustedâ�¦if his brothere didnâ��t run the state and if you didnâ��t have a highly partisan secretary of state handling things maybe we wouldnâ��t question so much!</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny, isn't it, how all the irregularities happened in states with Democrat elections directors and majority-Democrat election judges.</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If the over-votes had been counted, Gore would have won.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Over-votes have never been regarded as valid, since with the secret ballot it is impossible, absent psychic powers, to determine the intent of the voter.

To argue that the over-votes should have been counted amounts to altering the rules for determining the outcome of an election after the election has taken place.

And that makes Rodney&#039;s &quot;coup d&#039;etat&quot; rhetoric a bit less of a stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If the over-votes had been counted, Gore would have won.</p></blockquote>
<p>Over-votes have never been regarded as valid, since with the secret ballot it is impossible, absent psychic powers, to determine the intent of the voter.</p>
<p>To argue that the over-votes should have been counted amounts to altering the rules for determining the outcome of an election after the election has taken place.</p>
<p>And that makes Rodney's "coup d'etat" rhetoric a bit less of a stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Peretz lobbed the same canard in The New Republic again yesterday, with a comment that Al Gore has already been elected once, as he practically begged Al Gore to run in 2008 as the Democrat&#039;s last best hope.

What in the Hell is wrong with these people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Peretz lobbed the same canard in The New Republic again yesterday, with a comment that Al Gore has already been elected once, as he practically begged Al Gore to run in 2008 as the Democrat's last best hope.</p>
<p>What in the Hell is wrong with these people?</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that Liars alway think they are being lied to, cheaters alway think they are being cheated and thieves always think they are being stolen from?  If the fix was not in, why did democrats have a herd of lawyers ready to take the case to the Florida Supreme court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Liars alway think they are being lied to, cheaters alway think they are being cheated and thieves always think they are being stolen from?  If the fix was not in, why did democrats have a herd of lawyers ready to take the case to the Florida Supreme court?</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears my recollection is correct:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Link. &lt;/a&gt;

Though, I prefer my original thought on the matter at the time, which was that the Florida election effectively ended in a tie, and the Supreme Court acted as a tie-breaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears my recollection is correct:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florida.ballots/stories/main.html" rel="nofollow"> Link. </a></p>
<p>Though, I prefer my original thought on the matter at the time, which was that the Florida election effectively ended in a tie, and the Supreme Court acted as a tie-breaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Dill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t select presidents by popular vote, Alex. Popular vote does little to preserve states rights, but that is a different issue. The issue wasn&#039;t the Popular vote overthrowing the elected government it was the SCOFLA overthrowing the elected government through judicial activism. 

Yes I do know that using the term &quot;coup d&#039;etat&quot; is a bit much, but I&#039;ve had a great deal of glee in crafting and using this Ann Coulteresque term as an offset to the overabundant use of use of &quot;My god they&#039;re stealing election&quot; by liberals. I also use it as my way of showing that SCOTUS didn&#039;t select the president, they just prevented something other than the current legal election process from selecting him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't select presidents by popular vote, Alex. Popular vote does little to preserve states rights, but that is a different issue. The issue wasn't the Popular vote overthrowing the elected government it was the SCOFLA overthrowing the elected government through judicial activism. </p>
<p>Yes I do know that using the term "coup d'etat" is a bit much, but I've had a great deal of glee in crafting and using this Ann Coulteresque term as an offset to the overabundant use of use of "My god they're stealing election" by liberals. I also use it as my way of showing that SCOTUS didn't select the president, they just prevented something other than the current legal election process from selecting him.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;we were robbed&quot; mentality of the American Left and all their various, neverending conspiracies of the Right (note, practically ALL political conspiracy theory dating back the last 30 years is liberal-based--ok, ok, except for some of the stuff about Clinton&#039;s mafia whacking his enemies.) this must be founded in some deep, liberal psychological guilt or shame. why else can&#039;t people simply accept that they sometimes lose? after Bush/Gore in 2000, there was the Ohio conspiracy in 2004. next time around, it&#039;ll surely be Karl Rove&#039;s fault again. i have found that the Left refuses, absolutely refuses to rethink their political philosophy in light of the majority attitudes of the country, and instead prefers to think they&#039;re the majority but are getting screwed out of power by guys like Cheney and Rove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the "we were robbed" mentality of the American Left and all their various, neverending conspiracies of the Right (note, practically ALL political conspiracy theory dating back the last 30 years is liberal-based--ok, ok, except for some of the stuff about Clinton's mafia whacking his enemies.) this must be founded in some deep, liberal psychological guilt or shame. why else can't people simply accept that they sometimes lose? after Bush/Gore in 2000, there was the Ohio conspiracy in 2004. next time around, it'll surely be Karl Rove's fault again. i have found that the Left refuses, absolutely refuses to rethink their political philosophy in light of the majority attitudes of the country, and instead prefers to think they're the majority but are getting screwed out of power by guys like Cheney and Rove.</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as you can see by the comments, there are to many irregularities and of course the bush family can&#039;t be trusted...if his brothere didn&#039;t run the state and if you didn&#039;t have a highly partisan secretary of state handling things maybe we wouldn&#039;t question so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as you can see by the comments, there are to many irregularities and of course the bush family can't be trusted...if his brothere didn't run the state and if you didn't have a highly partisan secretary of state handling things maybe we wouldn't question so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My recollection was that if the recount had been done as the Supreme Court of Florida had ordered, Bush still would have won, because it would not have included the over-votes, just the under-votes.  If the over-votes had been counted, Gore would have won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recollection was that if the recount had been done as the Supreme Court of Florida had ordered, Bush still would have won, because it would not have included the over-votes, just the under-votes.  If the over-votes had been counted, Gore would have won.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney,

I think &quot;coup d&#039;etat&quot; is a bit much when you consider that Gore was the popular vote majority pick for president.

James,

While I generally agree with your sentiments, my memory of the media recounts is a bit different.  I&#039;ll have to go back and take a look, but as I recall it the media recounts showed that if votes had been recounted in Florida the way Gore wanted (just a few counties), then Bush would have won, but a recount of the entire state (as the Bush camp pushed as an alternative if recounts were allowed) would have made Gore the winner.  I might be mistaken, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney,</p>
<p>I think "coup d'etat" is a bit much when you consider that Gore was the popular vote majority pick for president.</p>
<p>James,</p>
<p>While I generally agree with your sentiments, my memory of the media recounts is a bit different.  I'll have to go back and take a look, but as I recall it the media recounts showed that if votes had been recounted in Florida the way Gore wanted (just a few counties), then Bush would have won, but a recount of the entire state (as the Bush camp pushed as an alternative if recounts were allowed) would have made Gore the winner.  I might be mistaken, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Dill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view has always been that SCOTUS didn&#039;t pick the president, they merely prevented a silent coup d&#039;etat of the legally elected US government that was being attempted by SCOFLA. If SCOFLA had not been overruled, malfeasance would&#039;ve been pretty much a guarantee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view has always been that SCOTUS didn't pick the president, they merely prevented a silent coup d'etat of the legally elected US government that was being attempted by SCOFLA. If SCOFLA had not been overruled, malfeasance would've been pretty much a guarantee.</p>
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