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	<title>Comments on: Supreme Court Rules Against Military Tribunals; Geneva Applies to Al Qaeda  (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Lawyers Legion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lawyers Legion - TouchPlay owners must pay by July 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawyers Legion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lawyers Legion - TouchPlay owners must pay by July 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Supreme Court Rules Against Military Tribunals; Geneva Applies to Al Outside Beltway - He is accused of conspiracy, which his lawyers say is not an internationally approved charge. His lawyers argued that it only throws out the specific mechanism (military tribunals) being used to handle captured bad guys. Posted by: legion at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Supreme Court Rules Against Military Tribunals; Geneva Applies to Al Outside Beltway - He is accused of conspiracy, which his lawyers say is not an internationally approved charge. His lawyers argued that it only throws out the specific mechanism (military tribunals) being used to handle captured bad guys. Posted by: legion at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James:  &quot;While it has long seemed obvious that the president did not have the authority to term United States citizens â??enemy combatantsâ?? and thereby deprive them of their constitutional rights,...&quot;

Not to the administration, or to Congress.

...&quot;the court has a long history of deferring to wartime presidents in their role as commander-in-chief.&quot;

Remember that Cheney said that this &#039;war&#039; will not end in our lifetimes.  A permanent state of war, in terms of presidents-as-commander-in-chief, is a recipe for dictatorship.

&quot; The idea that enemies captured fighting American soldiers on the battlefield have due process rights is frankly idiotic; one suspects the ruling is much more narrow than described by CNN.&quot;

The idea that these people were all, or even in the majority, captured &#039;fighting American soldiers on the battlefield&#039; is known to be false; the US paid Pakistani bounty hunters to produce &#039;Taliban&#039; and &#039;Al Qaida&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James:  "While it has long seemed obvious that the president did not have the authority to term United States citizens â??enemy combatantsâ?? and thereby deprive them of their constitutional rights,..."</p>
<p>Not to the administration, or to Congress.</p>
<p>..."the court has a long history of deferring to wartime presidents in their role as commander-in-chief."</p>
<p>Remember that Cheney said that this 'war' will not end in our lifetimes.  A permanent state of war, in terms of presidents-as-commander-in-chief, is a recipe for dictatorship.</p>
<p>" The idea that enemies captured fighting American soldiers on the battlefield have due process rights is frankly idiotic; one suspects the ruling is much more narrow than described by CNN."</p>
<p>The idea that these people were all, or even in the majority, captured 'fighting American soldiers on the battlefield' is known to be false; the US paid Pakistani bounty hunters to produce 'Taliban' and 'Al Qaida'.</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom Says &#187; SCOTUS reminds Bush of the rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom Says &#187; SCOTUS reminds Bush of the rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Outside the Beltway [...]</description>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog:  A Rough Draft of my Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog:  A Rough Draft of my Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Supremacy Clause and Hamdan...&lt;/strong&gt;

	Given the Hamdan decision today (which I haven&#8217;t had time to really digest, and hence the lack of commentary from me at this moment in time) and the discussion of the Geneva Conventions within the majority opinion, I expect that there will be so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Supremacy Clause and Hamdan...</strong></p>
<p>	Given the Hamdan decision today (which I haven&#8217;t had time to really digest, and hence the lack of commentary from me at this moment in time) and the discussion of the Geneva Conventions within the majority opinion, I expect that there will be so...</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/supreme_court_rules_in_hamdans_favor/comment-page-1/#comment-88340</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting aspect of this decision is that it finally answers the underlying question of &lt;i&gt;Ex parte McCardle&lt;/i&gt; (1869): absent a 2/3 majority in the Senate willing to remove justices for political reasons (which arguably was present in &lt;i&gt;McCardle&lt;/i&gt;, given the political context in which it was handed down), the Court will not recognize jurisdiction-stripping efforts by Congress that attempt to manipulate its docket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting aspect of this decision is that it finally answers the underlying question of <i>Ex parte McCardle</i> (1869): absent a 2/3 majority in the Senate willing to remove justices for political reasons (which arguably was present in <i>McCardle</i>, given the political context in which it was handed down), the Court will not recognize jurisdiction-stripping efforts by Congress that attempt to manipulate its docket.</p>
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		<title>By: Riehl World View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riehl World View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fourth Of July Cancelled...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Dems have decided to replace it with be kind to a terrorist week. Wannabe House Majority Leader Pelosi ... yeah, sure.Today&#039;s Supreme Court decision reaffirms the American ideal that all are entitled to the basic guarantees of our justice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fourth Of July Cancelled...</strong></p>
<p>The Dems have decided to replace it with be kind to a terrorist week. Wannabe House Majority Leader Pelosi ... yeah, sure.Today's Supreme Court decision reaffirms the American ideal that all are entitled to the basic guarantees of our justice...</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Declare Supreme Court Justices Enemy Combatants ...&lt;/strong&gt;

Although I have not actually read the entire Constitution, I believe that in the Article that gives the President the power to designate enemy combatants there is nothing that explicitly protects members of the Supreme Court from being declared enemy c...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Declare Supreme Court Justices Enemy Combatants ...</strong></p>
<p>Although I have not actually read the entire Constitution, I believe that in the Article that gives the President the power to designate enemy combatants there is nothing that explicitly protects members of the Supreme Court from being declared enemy c...</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh:

Congress doesn&#039;t have the necessary anatomy to do anything that does not put a buck into their pockets.

Our glorious Representatives and Senators are nothing more that a lost cause that lines their pockets at the expense of every American while singing their own praises and making speeches telling everyone how they are the &quot;Great Americans&quot;

Congressman and Senators are also the &quot;Bastards of America&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh:</p>
<p>Congress doesn't have the necessary anatomy to do anything that does not put a buck into their pockets.</p>
<p>Our glorious Representatives and Senators are nothing more that a lost cause that lines their pockets at the expense of every American while singing their own praises and making speeches telling everyone how they are the "Great Americans"</p>
<p>Congressman and Senators are also the "Bastards of America"</p>
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		<title>By: The Florida Masochist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Florida Masochist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Move on...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s done and over with. Hamdan will get his day in Federal District Court. If the case is strong, he&#039;ll get the appropriate justice. Just like if it had been a military court. I think 12 jurors will make the right decision...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Move on...</strong></p>
<p>It's done and over with. Hamdan will get his day in Federal District Court. If the case is strong, he'll get the appropriate justice. Just like if it had been a military court. I think 12 jurors will make the right decision...</p>
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		<title>By: PartisanTimes.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>PartisanTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Supreme Court Ruling Enforces Double Standard For Terrorists...&lt;/strong&gt;

In a 5-3 decision, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the Bush administration does not have the authority to try terrorism suspects by military tribunal. The New York Times reports: The Supreme Court today delivered a sweeping rebuke to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Supreme Court Ruling Enforces Double Standard For Terrorists...</strong></p>
<p>In a 5-3 decision, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the Bush administration does not have the authority to try terrorism suspects by military tribunal. The New York Times reports: The Supreme Court today delivered a sweeping rebuke to...</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Supreme Court Tosses Tribunals...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Supreme Court issued their Hamdan ruling and it&#039;s a loss for the President and his military tribunals. The most......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Supreme Court Tosses Tribunals...</strong></p>
<p>The Supreme Court issued their Hamdan ruling and it's a loss for the President and his military tribunals. The most......</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Interestingly, this permits a backdoor evasion of the ruling. Congress could, this afternoon if it wishes (assuming the Members could be rounded up) pass a statute authorizing these specific military commissions and stating that the Courts have no jurisdiction over them. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, yes.  I think Breyer says as much in his concurrence.  Glenn Greenwald notes that Congress can overturn most, if not all of the decision, by merely passing a statute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Interestingly, this permits a backdoor evasion of the ruling. Congress could, this afternoon if it wishes (assuming the Members could be rounded up) pass a statute authorizing these specific military commissions and stating that the Courts have no jurisdiction over them. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes.  I think Breyer says as much in his concurrence.  Glenn Greenwald notes that Congress can overturn most, if not all of the decision, by merely passing a statute.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Stevensâ?? claim that this might not have meant to apply to Hamden, who was already in custody because â??the Act is silentâ?? on that fact, is plainly absurd. &lt;/em&gt;

But isn&#039;t the decisive language in this portion as follows?

&lt;em&gt;The Government acknowledges that &lt;b&gt;only paragraphs (2)and (3) of subsection (e) are expressly made applicable to pending cases&lt;/b&gt;, see Â§1005(h)(2), 119 Stat. 2743â??2744, but argues that the omission of paragraph (1) from the scopeof that express statement is of no moment. This is so, we are told, because Congressâ?? failure to expressly reserve federal courtsâ?? jurisdiction over pending cases erects a presumption against jurisdiction, and that presumption isrebutted by neither the text nor the legislative history of the DTA.&lt;/em&gt;

In plain language, Congress could applied the DTA to petitions under para. (e)(1), but didn&#039;t.  That&#039;s the ball game, given their express language about pending cases under (2) and (3).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Stevensâ?? claim that this might not have meant to apply to Hamden, who was already in custody because â??the Act is silentâ?? on that fact, is plainly absurd. </em></p>
<p>But isn't the decisive language in this portion as follows?</p>
<p><em>The Government acknowledges that <b>only paragraphs (2)and (3) of subsection (e) are expressly made applicable to pending cases</b>, see Â§1005(h)(2), 119 Stat. 2743â??2744, but argues that the omission of paragraph (1) from the scopeof that express statement is of no moment. This is so, we are told, because Congressâ?? failure to expressly reserve federal courtsâ?? jurisdiction over pending cases erects a presumption against jurisdiction, and that presumption isrebutted by neither the text nor the legislative history of the DTA.</em></p>
<p>In plain language, Congress could applied the DTA to petitions under para. (e)(1), but didn't.  That's the ball game, given their express language about pending cases under (2) and (3).</p>
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		<title>By: Bhoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bhoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These activist judges are overstepping their bounds.   They don&#039;t understand that we are at war. First they allow the American Flag to be burned, now this.

Luckily, Bush said that he is not going to follow the opinion if it jeaprodizes the security of the American People.  Thankfully we have a leader with enough resolution to make sure that the rule of law doesn&#039;t get in the way of securing freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These activist judges are overstepping their bounds.   They don't understand that we are at war. First they allow the American Flag to be burned, now this.</p>
<p>Luckily, Bush said that he is not going to follow the opinion if it jeaprodizes the security of the American People.  Thankfully we have a leader with enough resolution to make sure that the rule of law doesn't get in the way of securing freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Cigar Intelligence Agency &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SCOTUS stands with the terrorists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cigar Intelligence Agency &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SCOTUS stands with the terrorists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More at Hot Air and Outside the Beltway. [...]</description>
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