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		<title>By: scottwww</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sweetie-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-365868</link>
		<dc:creator>scottwww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Hold on a second, sweetie. We&#039;ll hold a press avail,&quot;
&quot;Sweetie, if I start with a picture I will never get out of here.&quot; 
&quot;Sweetie if I start doing autographs I just won&#039;t be &amp; I am really late.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Spontaneous, habitual, or not, this is sexist by what we have all been taught. Why should Obama get a pass? I think not. &lt;strong&gt;Pay the piper Barack.&lt;/strong&gt;

The feminists should burn him in effigy!  see me at &lt;a href=&quot;http://Obama.dominates.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://Obama.dominates.us&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>"Hold on a second, sweetie. We'll hold a press avail,"<br />
"Sweetie, if I start with a picture I will never get out of here."<br />
"Sweetie if I start doing autographs I just won't be &amp; I am really late." </em></p>
<p>Spontaneous, habitual, or not, this is sexist by what we have all been taught. Why should Obama get a pass? I think not. <strong>Pay the piper Barack.</strong></p>
<p>The feminists should burn him in effigy!  see me at <a href="http://Obama.dominates.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=5" rel="nofollow">http://Obama.dominates.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use these terms often as a southerner, so I can understand that.

But I think the point that he said it to a woman who was in her professional role while also dismissing her question and not coming back to answer it is wrong and he deserves to be called on it.  Had he come back at some point and given her an honest answer I might think differently, but he really did dismiss her and in a manner that was or could be deemed sexist.

I don&#039;t think this someting to freak out over, and I don&#039;t think it is a huge issue, but I think it is one more negative that takes the shine away from Obama.

What we are seeing this election cycle is the golden boy who is the savior of American poitics turning into nothing more than a typical politician.  His approvals will go down and his negatives will go up, and other than the true believers the rest of the electorate will see him as just another politician running for office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use these terms often as a southerner, so I can understand that.</p>
<p>But I think the point that he said it to a woman who was in her professional role while also dismissing her question and not coming back to answer it is wrong and he deserves to be called on it.  Had he come back at some point and given her an honest answer I might think differently, but he really did dismiss her and in a manner that was or could be deemed sexist.</p>
<p>I don't think this someting to freak out over, and I don't think it is a huge issue, but I think it is one more negative that takes the shine away from Obama.</p>
<p>What we are seeing this election cycle is the golden boy who is the savior of American poitics turning into nothing more than a typical politician.  His approvals will go down and his negatives will go up, and other than the true believers the rest of the electorate will see him as just another politician running for office.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call women &quot;sweetheart&quot; all the time and have never seen anyone offended. Women usually seem to be amused by it. I had no idea it was a bad thing to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call women "sweetheart" all the time and have never seen anyone offended. Women usually seem to be amused by it. I had no idea it was a bad thing to say.</p>
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		<title>By: J Cline</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sweetie-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-365216</link>
		<dc:creator>J Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamorons will find any sort of excuse for their idol.  (How&#039;s that KoolAid sugar buzz working for ya?)

Offense is in the perception, not the intent.  That&#039;s why we don&#039;t use slang labels and dimunitive terms with adult strangers in a professional setting.  

Men tend to use these sort of &quot;endearments&quot; in front of other men to neutralize challenging women at work.  Obama was talking in front of a bunch of male autoworkers -- a hypermasculine crowd if there was one -- and the reporter was doing her job, pushing for an answer.

Well, the Messiah doesn&#039;t like to be questioned outside of his carefully-choreographed media ops.  So he blew her off with a dismissive one-liner and a smirk, and if you listen to the YouTube video (the long one) you hear the other men snicker, as if she just got put in her place.  

But the woman deserved an honest answer, not a patronizing term.  How exactly IS Obamajesus going to help American autoworkers?

As for the term itself -- well, if Obama gets to call me &quot;sweetie&quot; then I&#039;ll be glad to call him &quot;boy&quot;.  Fair&#039;s fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamorons will find any sort of excuse for their idol.  (How's that KoolAid sugar buzz working for ya?)</p>
<p>Offense is in the perception, not the intent.  That's why we don't use slang labels and dimunitive terms with adult strangers in a professional setting.  </p>
<p>Men tend to use these sort of "endearments" in front of other men to neutralize challenging women at work.  Obama was talking in front of a bunch of male autoworkers -- a hypermasculine crowd if there was one -- and the reporter was doing her job, pushing for an answer.</p>
<p>Well, the Messiah doesn't like to be questioned outside of his carefully-choreographed media ops.  So he blew her off with a dismissive one-liner and a smirk, and if you listen to the YouTube video (the long one) you hear the other men snicker, as if she just got put in her place.  </p>
<p>But the woman deserved an honest answer, not a patronizing term.  How exactly IS Obamajesus going to help American autoworkers?</p>
<p>As for the term itself -- well, if Obama gets to call me "sweetie" then I'll be glad to call him "boy".  Fair's fair.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to Matt Bastard, you sure got your feminist panties all in a knot over the term &quot;sweetie&quot;, but you show no class or respect yourself by abusing the name of the one that the majority of people in this country call Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to Matt Bastard, you sure got your feminist panties all in a knot over the term "sweetie", but you show no class or respect yourself by abusing the name of the one that the majority of people in this country call Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: mq</title>
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		<dc:creator>mq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, feel free to call it general remorse. 

I don&#039;t think the issue is so much what Obama said, but how he said it. The fact that he called the reporter sweetie while also dismissing her question leaves one with the impression that he didn&#039;t take the reporter seriously. That&#039;s insulting. And maybe it&#039;s just me, but I think it&#039;s a bit presumptuous to use an endearment like sweetie when talking to someone in a professional environment and that you don&#039;t know from Eve. 

In the end, I chalk this one to one more rookie mistake from Obama. His inability to go off-script without shooting himself in the foot doesn&#039;t inspire a lot on confidence in his ability to talk to domestic/foreign leaders without sticking his foot in his mouth. Seeing as taking to leaders seems to be a big theme in his campaign, that isn&#039;t good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, feel free to call it general remorse. </p>
<p>I don't think the issue is so much what Obama said, but how he said it. The fact that he called the reporter sweetie while also dismissing her question leaves one with the impression that he didn't take the reporter seriously. That's insulting. And maybe it's just me, but I think it's a bit presumptuous to use an endearment like sweetie when talking to someone in a professional environment and that you don't know from Eve. </p>
<p>In the end, I chalk this one to one more rookie mistake from Obama. His inability to go off-script without shooting himself in the foot doesn't inspire a lot on confidence in his ability to talk to domestic/foreign leaders without sticking his foot in his mouth. Seeing as taking to leaders seems to be a big theme in his campaign, that isn't good.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sweetie-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-365195</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm..., what will the proper term for my remorse be in November since I&#039;m not buying any of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm..., what will the proper term for my remorse be in November since I'm not buying any of it?</p>
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		<title>By: dutchmarbel</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/sweetie-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-365193</link>
		<dc:creator>dutchmarbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The difference is that &quot;sweetie&quot; can be used with someone you consider a social peer, where as &quot;boy&quot; is generally reserved for people you consider below you socially (due to age usually, but if the target is not younger than you it implies that some other feature puts them below you).&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with Pat that in a professional setting it is belittleling. It reminds me of a former (male) collegue who used Dutch equivalents when he spoke to me. I asked him not to do it and explained why. He told me that I was making a fuss about nothing and there was no demeaning aspect in what he said, I just saw things that weren&#039;t there.

So I decided to mirror. Every time he worded something in a way that felt wrong to me, I would answer with the same kind of word (he would say sweetie, I&#039;d call him &#039;dear&#039; in my answer). I only did hid when he did it, hoping that the mirroring effect might make it clear to him why he shouldn&#039;t do it.

A few months later I left the company and learned from our boss that he had filed a complaint at the time about how I unrespectfully I addressed him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The difference is that "sweetie" can be used with someone you consider a social peer, where as "boy" is generally reserved for people you consider below you socially (due to age usually, but if the target is not younger than you it implies that some other feature puts them below you).</i></p>
<p>I agree with Pat that in a professional setting it is belittleling. It reminds me of a former (male) collegue who used Dutch equivalents when he spoke to me. I asked him not to do it and explained why. He told me that I was making a fuss about nothing and there was no demeaning aspect in what he said, I just saw things that weren't there.</p>
<p>So I decided to mirror. Every time he worded something in a way that felt wrong to me, I would answer with the same kind of word (he would say sweetie, I'd call him 'dear' in my answer). I only did hid when he did it, hoping that the mirroring effect might make it clear to him why he shouldn't do it.</p>
<p>A few months later I left the company and learned from our boss that he had filed a complaint at the time about how I unrespectfully I addressed him.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be surprising for him to have called Edwards &quot;sweetie&quot; because it is generally reserved for members of the opposite sex (though it may be different of the person using the word was homosexual, I don&#039;t know).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Didn&#039;t you know? Hussein is not only muslim, but he&#039;s also gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It would be surprising for him to have called Edwards "sweetie" because it is generally reserved for members of the opposite sex (though it may be different of the person using the word was homosexual, I don't know).</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn't you know? Hussein is not only muslim, but he's also gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Might be a better story in why McCain, when asked a direct question about whether he did, in fact, call his wife those horrible names could not answer with a simple yes or no. Instead, the Baptist preacher asking the question was hauled off by the Secret Service.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone still believes that nonsense and &lt;em&gt;hasn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; heard he was a former Biden campaign worker planted at the event and not actually a minister?!? 

Wow. So much for the Feiler Faster Thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Might be a better story in why McCain, when asked a direct question about whether he did, in fact, call his wife those horrible names could not answer with a simple yes or no. Instead, the Baptist preacher asking the question was hauled off by the Secret Service.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone still believes that nonsense and <em>hasn't</em> heard he was a former Biden campaign worker planted at the event and not actually a minister?!? </p>
<p>Wow. So much for the Feiler Faster Thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any woman can explain how seriously DEMEANING it is to be called &quot;Sweetie&quot; while she&#039;s performing her professional duties. This is similar to calling a man &quot;Sonny&quot; under the same circumstances.  I could make another analogy to a particular insult that used to be directed at black men (boy), but I don&#039;t want to, in any way, imply that slavery was synonymous with (although it was, in certain ways, similar to) the suffering of women under a (formerly) patriarchal system.  Obama&#039;s apology found him on the verge of yet another error.  If I&#039;m not mistaken, he caught himself before he blurted out that this is what he calls his daughters.  I guarantee it. The pause gave it away that he very nearly made another gaff, but he stopped himself in time.  I don&#039;t know this reporter, but I&#039;d be willing to wager that she&#039;s younger than he is.  Obama has a bad habit (depending upon your point of view) of accidentally revealing his TRUE feelings, attitudes, and beliefs, and then making a lame apology later.  That is, whenever he doesn&#039;t catch himself before he makes the gaff in the first place.  I&#039;ve noticed this sexist attitude of his before, if only in the way that he LOOKS at his opponent.  It&#039;s very similar to the elitist attitude that he accidentally revealed towards those &quot;bitter&quot; voters in PA.  If Hillary doesn&#039;t make an issue of this, then she&#039;s a bigger fool than I thought.  Needless to say, I don&#039;t support either of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any woman can explain how seriously DEMEANING it is to be called "Sweetie" while she's performing her professional duties. This is similar to calling a man "Sonny" under the same circumstances.  I could make another analogy to a particular insult that used to be directed at black men (boy), but I don't want to, in any way, imply that slavery was synonymous with (although it was, in certain ways, similar to) the suffering of women under a (formerly) patriarchal system.  Obama's apology found him on the verge of yet another error.  If I'm not mistaken, he caught himself before he blurted out that this is what he calls his daughters.  I guarantee it. The pause gave it away that he very nearly made another gaff, but he stopped himself in time.  I don't know this reporter, but I'd be willing to wager that she's younger than he is.  Obama has a bad habit (depending upon your point of view) of accidentally revealing his TRUE feelings, attitudes, and beliefs, and then making a lame apology later.  That is, whenever he doesn't catch himself before he makes the gaff in the first place.  I've noticed this sexist attitude of his before, if only in the way that he LOOKS at his opponent.  It's very similar to the elitist attitude that he accidentally revealed towards those "bitter" voters in PA.  If Hillary doesn't make an issue of this, then she's a bigger fool than I thought.  Needless to say, I don't support either of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go back and look at my post about the congressman “scandal”. There are many examples of using the term “boy” in a non belligerent manner including “that boy is good”.  The place I live at now, the term “sweetie” is use in a negative way a great deal often more than the term “boy”.  

It just boils down that the left thinks Dem can’t do anything wrong while a Republican is always wrong.  Consistency in thought and judgments is not important. If it is a Republican, hang them. If a Dem, let them go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go back and look at my post about the congressman “scandal”. There are many examples of using the term “boy” in a non belligerent manner including “that boy is good”.  The place I live at now, the term “sweetie” is use in a negative way a great deal often more than the term “boy”.  </p>
<p>It just boils down that the left thinks Dem can&rsquo;t do anything wrong while a Republican is always wrong.  Consistency in thought and judgments is not important. If it is a Republican, hang them. If a Dem, let them go.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wouldn&#039;t you guys be suprised if he had called Edwards &#039;sweetie&#039;? Of if Clinton (either one) had called him &#039;sweetie&#039;?&lt;/blockquote&gt;It would be surprising for him to have called Edwards &quot;sweetie&quot; because it is generally reserved for members of the opposite sex (though it may be different of the person using the word was homosexual, I don&#039;t know).  It would be less surprising for Clinton to call Obama sweetie, especially given her time in Arkansas, and her sudden &quot;folksy&quot; persona.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Sweeti” is a common reference in many parts of this country just like the term “boy” is used in many parts of the country without any ill intent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The difference is that &quot;sweetie&quot; can be used with someone you consider a social peer, where as &quot;boy&quot; is generally reserved for people you consider below you socially (due to age usually, but if the target is not younger than you it implies that some other feature puts them below you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wouldn't you guys be suprised if he had called Edwards 'sweetie'? Of if Clinton (either one) had called him 'sweetie'?</p></blockquote>
<p>It would be surprising for him to have called Edwards "sweetie" because it is generally reserved for members of the opposite sex (though it may be different of the person using the word was homosexual, I don't know).  It would be less surprising for Clinton to call Obama sweetie, especially given her time in Arkansas, and her sudden "folksy" persona.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Sweeti” is a common reference in many parts of this country just like the term “boy” is used in many parts of the country without any ill intent.</p></blockquote>
<p>The difference is that "sweetie" can be used with someone you consider a social peer, where as "boy" is generally reserved for people you consider below you socially (due to age usually, but if the target is not younger than you it implies that some other feature puts them below you).</p>
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		<title>By: MsSwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsSwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweetie???!!! Call out the political proctologists and get this on the news 24/7 right away! Let&#039;s make sure the media covers this important incident rather than the issues!  BTW,  I&#039;d much rather have a president who has a habit of using sweetie than one who has a habit of calling his wife vulgar names.  Might be a better story in why McCain, when asked a direct question about whether he did, in fact, call his wife those horrible names could not answer with a simple yes or no.  Instead, the Baptist preacher asking the question was hauled off by the Secret Service.

Thanks darlin&#039;, you have a good day hon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweetie???!!! Call out the political proctologists and get this on the news 24/7 right away! Let's make sure the media covers this important incident rather than the issues!  BTW,  I'd much rather have a president who has a habit of using sweetie than one who has a habit of calling his wife vulgar names.  Might be a better story in why McCain, when asked a direct question about whether he did, in fact, call his wife those horrible names could not answer with a simple yes or no.  Instead, the Baptist preacher asking the question was hauled off by the Secret Service.</p>
<p>Thanks darlin', you have a good day hon.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Sweeti” is a common reference in many parts of this country just like the term “boy” is used in many parts of the country without any ill intent. Of course sometime they are used with malicious intent.   My question is how many of those who jump all over the congressman for using “boy” in a innocent reference is now jumping all over Obama for his “sweeti” comments and vice versa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Sweeti” is a common reference in many parts of this country just like the term “boy” is used in many parts of the country without any ill intent. Of course sometime they are used with malicious intent.   My question is how many of those who jump all over the congressman for using “boy” in a innocent reference is now jumping all over Obama for his “sweeti” comments and vice versa?</p>
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