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	<title>Comments on: Swift Boat Ad #2</title>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22586</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DW, polls have already been made public showing the the SwiftVets are having an impact on &quot;Kerry-leaning&quot; independents.

&lt;i&gt; I think, ultimately, this is a campaign to demotivate the GOP defectors who are breaking to Kerry.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t forget the elves and hobbits too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW, polls have already been made public showing the the SwiftVets are having an impact on "Kerry-leaning" independents.</p>
<p><i> I think, ultimately, this is a campaign to demotivate the GOP defectors who are breaking to Kerry.</i></p>
<p>Don't forget the elves and hobbits too.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogs of War</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22567</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John Kerry Sold Out His Band of Brothers&lt;/strong&gt;
With the release of their latest commercial the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are shifting their focus to a subject that should have been their primary focus to start with; John Kerryâs hateful self-serving 1971 congressional testimony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>John Kerry Sold Out His Band of Brothers</strong><br />
With the release of their latest commercial the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are shifting their focus to a subject that should have been their primary focus to start with; John Kerryâs hateful self-serving 1971 congressional testimony.</p>
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		<title>By: InTheBullpen.com</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22531</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheBullpen.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Second Swift Boat Commercial&lt;/strong&gt;
I have stated before that I thought the previous commercial was a bad idea as it might give Kerry a bump, however the reaction from Kerry and his supporters is making this a big deal and is working against him. Itâs the reaction that is comical because...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Second Swift Boat Commercial</strong><br />
I have stated before that I thought the previous commercial was a bad idea as it might give Kerry a bump, however the reaction from Kerry and his supporters is making this a big deal and is working against him. Itâs the reaction that is comical because...</p>
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		<title>By: CALIFORNIA  YANKEE</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22530</link>
		<dc:creator>CALIFORNIA  YANKEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Swift Boat Ad Sequel&lt;/strong&gt;
CNN reports that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have released a new TV ad: If you liked the original, you&#039;ll love &quot;Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 2,&quot; the new TV ad released this morning that responds to enemy fire the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Swift Boat Ad Sequel</strong><br />
CNN reports that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have released a new TV ad: If you liked the original, you'll love "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 2," the new TV ad released this morning that responds to enemy fire the</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Arnone</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22519</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Arnone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How Kerry got his medals 35 years ago is only pertinent to this election if he is the fraud and phoney the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth say he is. Kerry can stop his critics by releasing all of his service records. The only reason I can imagine he won&#039;t is that those records don&#039;t back up his &quot;hero&quot; personna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How Kerry got his medals 35 years ago is only pertinent to this election if he is the fraud and phoney the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth say he is. Kerry can stop his critics by releasing all of his service records. The only reason I can imagine he won't is that those records don't back up his "hero" personna.</p>
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		<title>By: MartiniPundit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22510</link>
		<dc:creator>MartiniPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Swift Boat Veterans Have Released a Second Ad&lt;/strong&gt;
The Swift Vets for Truth have released their second ad. It can be found on their website. I agree with Outside the Beltway that this ad is more effective and relevant than the first one. People may be aware of Kerry&apos;s testimony before Congress, bu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Swift Boat Veterans Have Released a Second Ad</strong><br />
The Swift Vets for Truth have released their second ad. It can be found on their website. I agree with Outside the Beltway that this ad is more effective and relevant than the first one. People may be aware of Kerry&apos;s testimony before Congress, bu...</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, out here in this &quot;swing state&quot; (why the hell is Washington a swing state when the margin has been between 7-9 for SIX MONTHS now?) this Swift Boat controversy has had no traction whatsoever. It made the Dubya voters feel better and emboldened the Kerry voters. 

The undecideds? Well, here&#039;s the odd thing. Most of the undecideds I&#039;ve met are 35 or younger. They have no memories of Vietnam &quot;seared&quot; into their brains. In fact, they have no memories of Vietnam, period. A 35 year old would be 6 when Saigon fell, a toddler when VVATW was on its campaign.

I have met another undecided, and he was a WWII vet. He was angry that any group would denigrate a guy&#039;s Silver Star. He was still undecided, though.

I think, ultimately, this is a campaign to demotivate the GOP defectors who are breaking to Kerry. I&#039;ve heard a lot of anecdotes about long-time GOP voters saying they&#039;re not voting with Kerry. Hell, my best friend is voting for Kerry, and he&#039;s three steps to the left of the John Birch Society. He&#039;s a little less willing to vote for Kerry, but he still won&#039;t vote for Dubya. That&#039;s why I&#039;m thinking this is more a campaign to get the &quot;traitors&quot; to abstain on Election Day rather than crossing over.

I love how they&#039;re saying John Kerry lost the war for us. Incompetent Pentagon leadership, you&#039;re excused. General Westmoreland, our apologies. Weather Underground, sorry about the arrests. War protestors, you guys were just expressing your First Amendment rights. You&#039;re all pardoned, because BY GOD WE FINALLY GOT OUR MAN!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, out here in this "swing state" (why the hell is Washington a swing state when the margin has been between 7-9 for SIX MONTHS now?) this Swift Boat controversy has had no traction whatsoever. It made the Dubya voters feel better and emboldened the Kerry voters. </p>
<p>The undecideds? Well, here's the odd thing. Most of the undecideds I've met are 35 or younger. They have no memories of Vietnam "seared" into their brains. In fact, they have no memories of Vietnam, period. A 35 year old would be 6 when Saigon fell, a toddler when VVATW was on its campaign.</p>
<p>I have met another undecided, and he was a WWII vet. He was angry that any group would denigrate a guy's Silver Star. He was still undecided, though.</p>
<p>I think, ultimately, this is a campaign to demotivate the GOP defectors who are breaking to Kerry. I've heard a lot of anecdotes about long-time GOP voters saying they're not voting with Kerry. Hell, my best friend is voting for Kerry, and he's three steps to the left of the John Birch Society. He's a little less willing to vote for Kerry, but he still won't vote for Dubya. That's why I'm thinking this is more a campaign to get the "traitors" to abstain on Election Day rather than crossing over.</p>
<p>I love how they're saying John Kerry lost the war for us. Incompetent Pentagon leadership, you're excused. General Westmoreland, our apologies. Weather Underground, sorry about the arrests. War protestors, you guys were just expressing your First Amendment rights. You're all pardoned, because BY GOD WE FINALLY GOT OUR MAN!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22501</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if it had been run first it would have been ignored. This way, the Swifties have already gotten everybody&#039;s attention, and the Kerry campaign is already in panic mode.

I&#039;d like to think this could be a &lt;i&gt;coup de grace&lt;/i&gt; but I don&#039;t want to jinx it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if it had been run first it would have been ignored. This way, the Swifties have already gotten everybody's attention, and the Kerry campaign is already in panic mode.</p>
<p>I'd like to think this could be a <i>coup de grace</i> but I don't want to jinx it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ipse Dixit</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boat_ad_2/comment-page-1/#comment-22495</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipse Dixit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Times Publishes A Kerry News Release Finally Reports The Cambodia Story&lt;/strong&gt;
The words &quot;Kerry&quot;, &quot;Christmas&quot;, and &quot;Cambodia&quot; have finally appeared in the same sentence in a New York Times article: This...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Times Publishes A Kerry News Release Finally Reports The Cambodia Story</strong><br />
The words "Kerry", "Christmas", and "Cambodia" have finally appeared in the same sentence in a New York Times article: This...</p>
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