Comments on: Swift Boating Obama? http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:09:33 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Signifying Nothing http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-308175 Signifying Nothing Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:01:30 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-308175 <strong>swift boat, v.t....</strong> How exactly are Barack Obama’s problems with Jeremiah Wright a swift boating? I like Obama about as much as your average Republican-leaning academic blogger with libertarian leanings, but it’s hard to see that there’s much that’s unfair about a... swift boat, v.t....

How exactly are Barack Obama’s problems with Jeremiah Wright a swift boating? I like Obama about as much as your average Republican-leaning academic blogger with libertarian leanings, but it’s hard to see that there’s much that’s unfair about a...

]]> By: The Chutry Experiment » Saturday Links http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-307720 The Chutry Experiment » Saturday Links Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:59:05 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-307720 [...] There’s probably not anything to add to Jonathan Martin’s discussion of the McCain staffer who was fired for Twittering this anti-Obama video, which sought to compare Obama to Malcolm X and Tommie Smith and John Carlos, the two athletes who gave the Black Power sign at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City (also worth checking out, this Tapped interview).  The video itself is relatively sloppy work compared to other mashups and regurgitates some of the more ridiculous aspersions against Obama that have been discredited, including the ridiculous assertion that Obama isn’t patriotic.  Still, I’m trying to keep track of as many of these as possible, an this is one of the few implicitly pro-McCain mashups that I’ve seen (as always, if you see others, let me know) and certainly one of the few to really go viral (Outside the Beltway also has an interesting read). [...] [...] There’s probably not anything to add to Jonathan Martin’s discussion of the McCain staffer who was fired for Twittering this anti-Obama video, which sought to compare Obama to Malcolm X and Tommie Smith and John Carlos, the two athletes who gave the Black Power sign at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City (also worth checking out, this Tapped interview).  The video itself is relatively sloppy work compared to other mashups and regurgitates some of the more ridiculous aspersions against Obama that have been discredited, including the ridiculous assertion that Obama isn’t patriotic.  Still, I’m trying to keep track of as many of these as possible, an this is one of the few implicitly pro-McCain mashups that I’ve seen (as always, if you see others, let me know) and certainly one of the few to really go viral (Outside the Beltway also has an interesting read). [...]

]]> By: Our Paul http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-307290 Our Paul Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:06:09 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-307290 Walden: Came in rather late, hope you are still looking for answers: A reasonable summary of the Swift Boat Veterans for truth can be found at <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html" rel="nofollow">FactCheck.org.</a>. A Google search on "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" will give you both sides of the story. Walden:
Came in rather late, hope you are still looking for answers:

A reasonable summary of the Swift Boat Veterans for truth can be found at FactCheck.org..

A Google search on "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" will give you both sides of the story.

]]> By: mannning http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306944 mannning Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:49:25 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306944 There is a distribution curve of extremism versus centralism, where by far the majority of citizens fall in the middle. Maybe a little left or right but not all that far from each other. On the mini-minority extremes, both left and right, however, we have dangerous mindsets that promote the most vile, permanent solutions to problems imaginable. Today, it seems that the left-center has succumbed to the little, loud, slovenly and angry crowd on the far left, which has denuded the center-left of most of its sensible people, perhaps by merely shutting them up. On the center-right, however, there are many sensible people still remaining that grandly balance their collective political views much more to the center-right. While the far left is completely out of control, the tiny far right is nicely contained and seldom seen in ugly riots and demonstrations such as we see every few days from the irresponsible and unmannerly left. In fact, it is difficult to cite the last large rightwing march, whereas the count on the left is relatively astronomical. The politics of victimhood, the desire for moral and sexual freedom to do as one wishes, the willingness to abort 50 million babies, the fear of possibly having to go to war, the dependence of leftists on government handouts, and buying votes with promises of still more government largess, the secularist attacks on Christianity, and the utter bias of their attitudes appears to be the order of the day. Trying to make valid arguments from this position of moral terpitude and failed citizenship is laughable. There is a distribution curve of extremism versus centralism, where by far the majority of citizens fall in the middle. Maybe a little left or right but not all that far from each other. On the mini-minority extremes, both left and right, however, we have dangerous mindsets that promote the most vile, permanent solutions to problems imaginable.

Today, it seems that the left-center has succumbed to the little, loud, slovenly and angry crowd on the far left, which has denuded the center-left of most of its sensible people, perhaps by merely shutting them up. On the center-right, however, there are many sensible people still remaining that grandly balance their collective political views much more to the center-right.

While the far left is completely out of control, the tiny far right is nicely contained and seldom seen in ugly riots and demonstrations such as we see every few days from the irresponsible and unmannerly left. In fact, it is difficult to cite the last large rightwing march, whereas the count on the left is relatively astronomical.

The politics of victimhood, the desire for moral and sexual freedom to do as one wishes, the willingness to abort 50 million babies, the fear of possibly having to go to war, the dependence of leftists on government handouts, and buying votes with promises of still more government largess, the secularist attacks on Christianity, and the utter bias of their attitudes appears to be the order of the day.

Trying to make valid arguments from this position of moral terpitude and failed citizenship is laughable.

]]> By: The Pink Flamingo http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306517 The Pink Flamingo Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:15:08 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306517 <strong>Part Three: Fr. Peter Channeling Obi Wan Tonight...</strong> A NEW HOPE “…This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age. For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. ... Part Three: Fr. Peter Channeling Obi Wan Tonight...

A NEW HOPE “…This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age. For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. ...

]]> By: Adam's Blog http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306502 Adam's Blog Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:47:42 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306502 <strong>Hillary’s Record...</strong> Podcast Show Notes Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)  continues his valiant fight against earmarks, exposing some government waste in West Virginia. Did Hillary play a role in the passage of the original SCHIP? The author of the bills says no. (Hat Tip: The Corn... Hillary’s Record...

Podcast Show Notes
Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)  continues his valiant fight against earmarks, exposing some government waste in West Virginia.
Did Hillary play a role in the passage of the original SCHIP? The author of the bills says no. (Hat Tip: The Corn...

]]> By: anjin-san http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306472 anjin-san Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:28:28 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306472 Or is it just that this is scary black anger... as opposed to the nice, familiar invective we hear from some of the pastors that support McCain? Or is it just that this is scary black anger... as opposed to the nice, familiar invective we hear from some of the pastors that support McCain?

]]> By: anjin-san http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306470 anjin-san Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:26:31 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306470 Considering the bile hurled from pulpits that have been embraced, and which continue to be embraced by the right... well if they really want to duke it out on this issue, I think that is a fight that will hurt the GOP more than Democrats. Considering the bile hurled from pulpits that have been embraced, and which continue to be embraced by the right... well if they really want to duke it out on this issue, I think that is a fight that will hurt the GOP more than Democrats.

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306409 Rhymes With Right Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:45:34 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306409 <strong>Barack Calls All Whites Bigots...</strong> Well, now we understand why Barack Obama has stayed with Trinity UCC and racist Reverend Jeremiah Wright -- he holds to the views expressed by Wright from the pulpit that white people are inherently racist. 610 WIP (Philadelphia) host Angelo...... Barack Calls All Whites Bigots...

Well, now we understand why Barack Obama has stayed with Trinity UCC and racist Reverend Jeremiah Wright -- he holds to the views expressed by Wright from the pulpit that white people are inherently racist. 610 WIP (Philadelphia) host Angelo......

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306408 Rhymes With Right Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:42:30 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306408 <strong>Will The IRS Act Against Trinity UCC?...</strong> Watch and listen to the Christmas sermon of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Jeremiah Wright is clearly engaging in political speech on behalf of Barack Obama and against Hillary Clinton BY NAME from the pulpit in his sermon. Doesn't this violate IRS...... Will The IRS Act Against Trinity UCC?...

Watch and listen to the Christmas sermon of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Jeremiah Wright is clearly engaging in political speech on behalf of Barack Obama and against Hillary Clinton BY NAME from the pulpit in his sermon. Doesn't this violate IRS......

]]> By: Rosemary's Thoughts http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306355 Rosemary's Thoughts Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:58:52 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306355 <strong>Blogger News 3.20.08...</strong> A collection of six bloggers with some very interesting, funny, serious, good news articles. I'm sure there is one with a link that you'll find interesting. Drop on by ...... Blogger News 3.20.08...

A collection of six bloggers with some very interesting, funny, serious, good news articles. I'm sure there is one with a link that you'll find interesting. Drop on by ......

]]> By: Margaret Larson http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306321 Margaret Larson Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:50:46 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306321 If we really want to do something more than politics as usual--with all the damage that is caused by polarizing people through opportunistic, nasty attacks--then we have to stand up against those attacks, no matter whether it's our candidate that gets skewered or the other guy's candidate. If we can't do that, we're in serious trouble. If we really want to do something more than politics as usual--with all the damage that is caused by polarizing people through opportunistic, nasty attacks--then we have to stand up against those attacks, no matter whether it's our candidate that gets skewered or the other guy's candidate. If we can't do that, we're in serious trouble.

]]> By: McCain Staffer Suspended for Linking to Video » The American Mind http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306225 McCain Staffer Suspended for Linking to Video » The American Mind Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:46:16 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306225 [...] Joyner sees the video as an “unfair” attack. I disagree. Ditch the patriotism jab and it’s legit criticism. Obama has talked about the [...] [...] Joyner sees the video as an “unfair” attack. I disagree. Ditch the patriotism jab and it’s legit criticism. Obama has talked about the [...]

]]> By: Bandit http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306205 Bandit Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:16:45 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306205 I voted for Obama but his speech didn't impress me at all. MLK had a dream - Obama's got a million excuses. I don't know what he believes but I do know he's a pragmatist who understands he can't get nominated or elected without the black and guilt belt vote - I agree that his speech impressed his supporters but I don't believe it did anyhting to convert his detractors - whom he has a lot more of now. I voted for Obama but his speech didn't impress me at all. MLK had a dream - Obama's got a million excuses. I don't know what he believes but I do know he's a pragmatist who understands he can't get nominated or elected without the black and guilt belt vote - I agree that his speech impressed his supporters but I don't believe it did anyhting to convert his detractors - whom he has a lot more of now.

]]> By: Cheryl Morris http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/swift_boating_obama/comment-page-1/#comment-306197 Cheryl Morris Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:57:41 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/03/swift_boating_obama/#comment-306197 To me, these Davis' questions are crucial. As a mother, I also wonder how the Obamas could take their children to learn their faith where such things were being said from the pulpit? How do they expect to change a nation when they take their own family to a church where the old anger of the past is being taught? In other words, what Obama proposes to do, is not being done in the church which he attends. Is this not inconsistent? To me, these Davis' questions are crucial. As a mother, I also wonder how the Obamas could take their children to learn their faith where such things were being said from the pulpit? How do they expect to change a nation when they take their own family to a church where the old anger of the past is being taught? In other words, what Obama proposes to do, is not being done in the church which he attends. Is this not inconsistent?

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