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	<title>Outside The Beltway &#124; OTB &#187; Jonah Goldberg</title>
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		<title>Thomas Friedman Extols the Virtues of Communism</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas Friedman&#8217;s latest column, in which he argues Communist China&#8217;s system is preferable to ours because it &#8220;can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century,&#8221; has quite naturally generated a heated response in the blogosphere, with everyone from Reason editor Matt Welch to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fthomas_friedman_extols_the_virtues_of_communism%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fthomas_friedman_extols_the_virtues_of_communism%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a rel="attachment wp-att-41645" href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/?attachment_id=41645"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-41645" style="border: 2px solid black; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 15px;" title="China Anniversary" src="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/china-security.jpg" alt="China Anniversary" width="400" /></a><a title="Our One-Party Democracy " href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/opinion/09friedman.html?_r=3">Thomas Friedman</a>&#8217;s latest column, in which he argues <em>Communist China&#8217;s system is preferable to ours</em> because it &#8220;can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century,&#8221; has quite naturally generated a heated response in the blogosphere, with everyone from <em>Reason</em> editor <a title=" China Is Better Governed Than America" href="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135947.html">Matt Welch</a> to <em>National Review</em>&#8217;s <a title="Thomas Friedman is a Liberal Fascist " href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDcxZDkzN2EyNDQwYTQzNWNjNjdiZWNiZTIzYTcwOTA=">Jonah Goldberg</a> to American University lawprof <a title="Thomas Friedman, For One, Welcomes Our New Chinese Creditor Overlord" href="http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_09_06-2009_09_12.shtml#1252509527">Kenneth Anderson</a> to <a href="http://gawker.com/5355539/thomas-friedman-demands-communist-revolution">Nick Denton</a>&#8217;s <em>Gawker</em> ridiculing Friedman&#8217;s thinking and/or questioning his patriotism.</p>
<p>In my <em>New Atlanticist</em> post, &#8220;<a title="Chinese Autocracy vs. American Democracy" href="http://www.acus.org/new_atlanticist/chinese-autocracy-vs-american-democracy">Chinese Autocracy vs. American Democracy</a>,&#8221; I cut the old boy a bit of slack.</p>
<blockquote><p>To be sure, Friedman elides some of the minor advantages America&#8217;s system has over China&#8217;s, such as freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly, access to the Internet and others too numerous to mention.  But Friedman, who&#8217;s been to China and talked with its cab drivers to gain fascinating insights about how the world works, knows this.</p>
<p>Frustrations and pique aside, Friedman doesn&#8217;t really prefer China&#8217;s system to America&#8217;s at all.   Rather, he prefers to a particular set of policy outcomes that China&#8217;s &#8220;enlightened&#8221; government can impose on its people without consequence, that our own more-or-less accountable representatives can not.   But that&#8217;s rather like preferring Fascism for the timeliness of its trains.</p></blockquote>
<p>Especially if you make your living as an opinion writer.</p>
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		<title>American Royalty &#8211; Nepotism in Politics and Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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Glenn Greenwald laments the rise of &#8220;American royalty.&#8221;
They should convene a panel for the next Meet the Press with Jenna Bush Hager, Luke Russert, Liz Cheney, Megan McCain and Jonah Goldberg, and they should have Chris Wallace moderate it.  They can all bash affirmative action and talk about how vitally important it is that the U.S. remain [...]]]></description>
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<p><a title="It's time to embrace American royalty" href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/30/royalty/">Glenn Greenwald</a> laments the rise of &#8220;American royalty.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>They should convene a panel for the next <em>Meet the Press</em> with Jenna Bush Hager, Luke Russert, Liz Cheney, Megan McCain and Jonah Goldberg, and they should have Chris Wallace moderate it.  They can all bash affirmative action and talk about how vitally important it is that the U.S. remain a Great Meritocracy because it&#8217;s really unfair for anything other than merit to determine position and employment.  They can interview Lisa Murkowski, Evan Bayh, Jeb Bush, Bob Casey, Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, <a href="http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/12/03/aristocracy/permalink/2c433e9762705545170abe9bd4f4f7f2.html">Dan Lipinksi</a>, and Harold Ford, Jr. about personal responsibility and the virtues of self-sufficiency.  Bill Kristol, Tucker Carlson and John Podhoretz can provide moving commentary on how America is so special because all that matters is merit, not who you know or where you come from.  There&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/12/03/aristocracy/">virtually endless list of politically well-placed guests</a> equally qualified to talk on such matters.</p></blockquote>
<p>Some of the examples are more egregious than others.  Murkowski is the most outrageous; plucked out of nowhere to be appointed to fill her father&#8217;s vacant seat <em>by her father</em>. Arguably, at least, those elected to public office to follow in the footsteps of famous fathers have to stand the scrutiny, such as it is, of the voters.  And Chris Wallace at least legitimately worked in the news business for years before getting tabbed to host a show.  Jenna Bush and Megan McCain seem to be celebrities solely because of who their dads are.</p>
<p>Liz Cheney is an especially odd case.  She is genuinely well qualified to comment on a variety of issues owing to having served for years in very important public policy posts.  Alas, it&#8217;s doubtful whether she&#8217;d have been appointed to said posts were her last name Smith or Jones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a bit dubious of the inclusion of Goldberg, Kristol, and Carlson on the list.    Carlson and Goldberg had ever-so-modestly famous parents who presumably helped them get a foot in the door.  But it&#8217;s doubtful that Carlson got on TV based on who his parents were. Nor is it obvious why being a literary agent is of great help in launching a son as a conservative pundit. Kristol&#8217;s father was a giant and certainly helped launch his son&#8217;s career but he&#8217;s not in the same category of Podhoretz, who essentially inherited his dad&#8217;s magazine.</p>
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		<title>Anti-Hero Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Taylor forwards Steve Benen&#8217;s recent post &#8220;Right Movie, Wrong Lesson&#8221; in which he chides Joe Scarborough for his sympathy for Colonel Jessep, as played by Jack Nicolson in the movie version of &#8220;A Few Good Men,&#8221; noting that we&#8217;d had a similar conversation when I was at his house last weekend helping celebrate the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fanti-hero_worship%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fanti-hero_worship%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a rel="attachment wp-att-36599" href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/anti-hero_worship/nathan-jessup/"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-36599" style="border: 2px solid black; margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 15px;" title="nathan-jessup" src="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/nathan-jessup.jpg" alt="" width="320" height="213" /></a><a href="http://poliblogger.com">Steven Taylor</a> forwards <a title="RIGHT MOVIE, WRONG LESSON." href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/018314.php">Steve Benen</a>&#8217;s recent post &#8220;Right Movie, Wrong Lesson&#8221; in which he chides Joe Scarborough for his sympathy for Colonel Jessep, as played by Jack Nicolson in the movie version of &#8220;A Few Good Men,&#8221; noting that we&#8217;d had a similar conversation when I was at his house last weekend helping celebrate the publication of his new book.</p>
<p>Amusingly, I wrote almost the exact same post my very first day blogging at OTB &#8212; using almost the exact same title!</p>
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<h3 class="title"><a href="../../archives/good_movie_wrong_lesson/">GOOD MOVIE, WRONG LESSON</a></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20030131.shtml">Jonah Goldberg’s column</a> today is an excellent example of how you can agree with someone’s conclusions but strongly object to their argument. Yes, the Tom Cruise character in “A Few Good Men” was a smart-aleck pretty boy (as he is in all of his watchable movies; he’s dreadful when he tries to go against type). Yes, the Jack Nicholson character (Colonel Jessep) had some great lines and it was easy to cheer for some of them. But Jessep <em>was</em> a villain in the flick. However well intentioned, he believed himself above the rules of his society and ordered his subordinates to break the law, with the tragic result of killing one of the men under his command. And then covering it up rather than taking responsibility. Not exactly heroic. I’d hate for Jessep to be the role model for American foreign policy. And, getting to Goldberg’s direct point, while it’s true that the US provides the lion’s share of the NATO defense burden, that doesn’t mean the Europeans have lost all right to dissent. They’re sometimes (okay, usually) annoying, but they aren’t our subordinates; they’re sovereign states with a rather different set of interests. Indeed, that’s the reason we need to preserve the option to act “unilaterally” rather than having all our actions subject to a NATO or UN veto.</p></blockquote>
<p>The more things change . . .</p>
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		<title>The End of Fascism</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megan McArdle calls for an extension of Godwin&#8217;s Law that would put an end to &#8220;using the word fascist to apply to the current, or indeed previous, administration.&#8221;
How is this helpful?  Has clarifying the distinction between fascism and socialism really added to most peoples&#8217; understanding of what the Obama administration is doing?  All this does [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>How is this helpful?  Has clarifying the distinction between fascism and socialism really added to most peoples&#8217; understanding of what the Obama administration is doing?  All this does is drag the specter of Hitler into the conversation.  And the problem with Hitler was not his industrial policy&#8211;I mean, okay, fine, Hitler&#8217;s industrial policy <em>bad</em>, right, but I could forgive him for that, you know?  The thing that really bothers me about Hitler was <em>the genocide</em>.  And I&#8217;m about as sure as I can be that Obama has no plans to round up millions of people, put them in camps, and find various creative ways to torture them to death.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with her conclusion but not her argument.</p>
<p>Last things first:  The Final Solution was possible because Nazi Germany was a fascist state and therefore no one dared question Hitler&#8217;s orders.  Genocide is, however, not a necessary outgrowth of fascist ideology nor have most genocides been carried out by fascist governments.  Benito Mussolini, the Founding Fascist (if you will) wasn&#8217;t a mass murderer and Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Omar al-Bashir aren&#8217;t fascists.  The genocide was what made Hitler <em>evil</em>, not what made him a <em>fascist</em>.</p>
<p>With that out of the way, I completely agree that dubbing American presidents and their policies <em>fascist</em> is not a helpful way to advance the debate.   See, for example, my previous decisions of Jonah Goldberg&#8217;s <em><a title="Liberal Fascism" href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/goldberg_coulter_and_savage/">Liberal Fascism</a></em> and the <a title="Obama Personality Cult, Just Like Hitler and Stalin?" href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_charimatic_hitler_armageddon_/">Obama cult of personality</a>.  While there may be aspects of the Bush or Obama policies that have something akin with Communism or Nazism or Fascism or whathaveyou, those terms have so much extraneous baggage that the discussion invariably strays from the actual thing being criticized.  [As Dave Schuler points out in the comments, there's a name for this: "poisoning the well."]</p>
<p>We should be careful here to differentiate name-calling from the actual substantive argument.  It&#8217;s a very different thing to argue that bringing up the idea of nationalizing health care makes you a Marxist/Socialist/Communist than to argue that enacting a given policy will naturally lead down a road to ever-more-powerful government.   So, Friedrick Hayek&#8217;s <em>Road to Serfdom</em> is a different than Ann Coulter&#8217;s <em>Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism</em> or even <em>Al Franken&#8217;s Lies (And the Lying Liars Who Tell Them): A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right</em>.</p>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking for the Colonel Jessup discussion I referenced in my last post, I came across the post &#8220;GOOD MOVIE, WRONG LESSON,&#8221; written on January 31, 2003 and imported over from the original blogspot site (unfortunately, owing to then-existing vagaries, sans comments).  It was the fourth substantive post and fifth total post ever on the site, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Ffrom_the_archives%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Ffrom_the_archives%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Looking for the Colonel Jessup discussion I referenced in my last post, I came across the post &#8220;<a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/good_movie_wrong_lesson/">GOOD MOVIE, WRONG LESSON</a>,&#8221; written on January 31, 2003 and imported over from the original blogspot site (unfortunately, owing to then-existing vagaries, sans comments).  It was the fourth substantive post and fifth total post ever on the site, written on my first day as a blogger:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20030131.shtml">Jonah Goldberg’s column</a> today is an excellent example of how you can agree with someone’s conclusions but strongly object to their argument. Yes, the Tom Cruise character in “A Few Good Men” was a smart-aleck pretty boy (as he is in all of his watchable movies; he’s dreadful when he tries to go against type). Yes, the Jack Nicholson character (Colonel Jessep) had some great lines and it was easy to cheer for some of them. But Jessup <em>was</em> a villain in the flick. However well intentioned, he believed himself above the rules of his society and ordered his subordinates to break the law, with the tragic result of killing one of the men under his command. And then covering it up rather than taking responsibility. Not exactly heroic. I’d hate for Jessep to be the role model for American foreign policy. And, getting to Goldberg’s direct point, while it’s true that the US provides the lion’s share of the NATO defense burden, that doesn’t mean the Europeans have lost all right to dissent. They’re sometimes (okay, usually) annoying, but they aren’t our subordinates; they’re sovereign states with a rather different set of interests. Indeed, that’s the reason we need to preserve the option to act “unilaterally” rather than having all our actions subject to a NATO or UN veto.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d stand by every bit of that still, except for the jab at Cruise.  He&#8217;s subsequently done quite well in other types of roles. I&#8217;d also use paragraph breaks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonah Goldberg argues that conservatives should have embraced &#8220;The Wire&#8221; more than we did.
This is a Democratic city, run almost uniformly by liberals. While many of the problems most prominently on display can certainly be traced back to racism, racism itself is not a central issue in The Wire (nor is racism an inherently or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fwire_politics%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fwire_politics%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a rel="attachment wp-att-28076" href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wire_politics/the_wire/"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-28076" style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 15px;" title="The Wire" src="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/the_wire-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><a title="Conservatism and The Wire " href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mjg4YjMzNDVjZjRkM2QzZWJkNGI0MTgwMTYxN2M2Mzg=">Jonah Goldberg</a> argues that conservatives should have embraced &#8220;The Wire&#8221; more than we did.</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a Democratic city, run almost uniformly by liberals. While many of the problems most prominently on display can certainly be traced back to racism, racism itself is not a central issue in <em>The Wire</em> (nor is racism an inherently or historically conservative phenomena). These drug gangs and the poor souls in their orbit, are not trapped by racism so much as by a dysfunctional culture. That&#8217;s certainly the lesson of much of season four. The stoop kids do okay. The Corner Boys are destined for a life of misery. For every main character who is a murderer or dope dealer (but I repeat myself), there&#8217;s a representative of the black middle class who rejects the criminal culture of the street. For every Marlo, there&#8217;s a Bunk. Race relations between the actual characters are remarkably healthy, and nearly every mention of race as a salient issue is in the context of the political nonsense inherent to Baltimore, or rather urban, Democratic politics. To the extent many liberals try to explain all of the problems of poor blacks on racism, the show was a powerful rebuttal.</p>
<p>Some liberals (including some of the show&#8217;s creators) might look at the manifest failures of the schools in <em>The Wire</em> as evidence that we don&#8217;t &#8220;invest&#8221; enough in urban education, which is itself a symptom of racism. Okay, fine. But as a conservative, I don&#8217;t look at the schools in the Wire and say, &#8220;gosh, if only they had more money.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="The Politics of The Wire" href="http://www.debatableland.com/the_debatable_land/2008/12/the-politics-of-the-wire.html">Alex Massie</a>, sensibly I believe, wonders, &#8220;have we really reached the stage where even TV programmes have to be apportioned between conservatives and liberals so that watching television becomes a dreary act by which one demonstrates ones political allegiance?&#8221;   Nonetheless, he wades in fearlessly:</p>
<blockquote><p>In any case, if you <em>have</em> to investigate <em>The Wire&#8217;s</em> politics, it seems to me that you might be tempted to conclude that it endorses a libertarian view of local politics, rather than  conservative or liberal perspective. No wonder it&#8217;s such a trendy show to like&#8230; The evidence is there: manifest failure of a crippling and immoral war on drugs? Check. Manifest failure of a school system resistant to reform and implicitly ripe, therefore, for real school choice? Check. Desperate consequences of the criminalisation of prostitution? For sure. Ghastly consequences of local government and planning regulations held hostage by rent-seeking?</p></blockquote>
<p>Which just goes to show that programs with a heavy dose of social drama can be read in ways that conform to one&#8217;s own preexisting ideological bent.  In any event, we should refrain from drawing too many political lessons from fictional television shows, however &#8220;realistic&#8221; they seem.</p>
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		<title>GOP&#8217;s G-O-D Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kathleen Parker is getting quite a response to her WaPo piece &#8220;Giving Up on God.&#8221;
As Republicans sort out the reasons for their defeat, they likely will overlook or dismiss the gorilla in the pulpit.
Three little letters, great big problem: G-O-D.
I&#8217;m bathing in holy water as I type.
To be more specific, the evangelical, right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgops_g-o-d_problem%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgops_g-o-d_problem%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a title="Giving Up on God - Republican Party's Religious Right" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111802886.html">Kathleen Parker</a> is getting <a title="Giving Up on God - Republican Party's Religious Right" href="http://www.memeorandum.com/081119/p15#a081119p15">quite a response</a> to her WaPo piece &#8220;Giving Up on God.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>As Republicans sort out the reasons for their defeat, they likely will overlook or dismiss the gorilla in the pulpit.</p>
<p>Three little letters, great big problem: G-O-D.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m bathing in holy water as I type.</p>
<p>To be more specific, the evangelical, right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch of the GOP is what ails the erstwhile conservative party and will continue to afflict and marginalize its constituents if reckoning doesn&#8217;t soon cometh.</p>
<p>Simply put: Armband religion is killing the Republican Party. And, the truth — as long as we&#8217;re setting ourselves free — is that if one were to eavesdrop on private conversations among the party intelligentsia, one would hear precisely that.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="The GOP's Oogedy-Boogedy Problem " href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-reckoning.html">Andrew Sullivan</a> agrees wholeheartedly and contends the party&#8217;s control by the &#8220;Christianists&#8221; is the reason they so blindly followed Bush.</p>
<blockquote><p>You have to see the link between the fundamentalist psyche and the suspension of critical judgment in the Republican party for the past eight years. A non-born-again president would never have been allowed to get away with it.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Quit It Kathleen" href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTdjZTg0MzEyN2VjY2UwMDIwMDEyZTkxNjI2YjZkZjY=">Jonah Goldberg</a> says &#8220;This act is getting really old.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s more grating, the quasi-bigotry that has you calling religious Christians low brows, gorillas and oogedy-boogedy types or the bravery-on-the-cheap as you salute — in that winsome way — your own courage for saying what (according to you) needs to be said.</p></blockquote>
<p>In this one, I&#8217;m much closer to Goldberg than to Parker.   As with nonsense about how liberals are modern-day Fascists, this business about &#8220;oogedy-boogedy&#8221; is decidedly unhelpful in shaping the debate.</p>
<p>Goldberg is quite right here:</p>
<blockquote><p>For the record, I have no problem with arguments about how the GOP has become too religious. I ended my book with pretty much that argument. I opposed Mike Huckabee vociferously because he seemed the quintessential rightwing progressive imbued with a rightwing social gospel. These are all good arguments to make and they have good responses to them. But please drop the nonsense about how the G-O-D people  or the Palin people are low brows and beasts. There are low brows and beasts everywhere, on every side of the ideological spectrum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.  Sadly, Parker gets is right too late in her column:</p>
<blockquote><p>It isn&#8217;t that culture doesn&#8217;t matter. It does. But preaching to the choir produces no converts.</p></blockquote>
<p>I fully concur that trying to build a majority coalition around Christian Conservatives is a losing proposition.  As I noted a couple weeks ago on OTB Radio, targeting one&#8217;s public policy so as to appeal to &#8220;every last Pentacostal&#8221; is a mistake.  At the same time, however, there&#8217;s no conceivable center-right majority that excludes people of faith.  (Indeed, one can argue that conservatism without religion isn&#8217;t conservatism at all; but that&#8217;s another debate.)  The key is to appeal to social values voters without repelling Chamber of Commerce and libertarian Republicans and sympathetic moderates.</p>
<p><a title="Oogedy-Boogedy-Boo" href="http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/11/19/oogedy-boogedy-boo/">Daniel Larison</a>, meanwhile, thinks religious conservatives get too much blame but for a different reason:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite their numbers, and in large part because of their reliability as Republican voters, evangelicals and social conservatives draw very little water in the GOP. Each cycle GOP leaders see how little it will take to get these voters to turn out for their candidates, and what that amount of lip service is each cycle they try to reduce it. The voters continue to turn out, despite having less and less reason to do so, and for their trouble they are accused of the errors that the party leaders made and into which the establishment dragged them.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree.  All of the Republican Party&#8217;s major leaders are from the social conservative wing of the party and that wing dominates grassroots recruitment, get-out-the-vote drives, fundraising, and so forth.   It&#8217;s true that they don&#8217;t have much to show for their power in terms of public policy outcomes.  But that&#8217;s a function of institutional checks and balances (the filibuster in the Senate, the fealty to <em>stare decisis</em> in the courts, and so forth) than the voting behavior of Republican officeholders.</p>
<p>Really, though, that&#8217;s part of the point.  We&#8217;re simply never going to outlaw abortion again.  The culture and the medicine (RU486, morning after pills, etc.) have moved beyond that. We&#8217;re not going to have prayer in the public schools.  We&#8217;re not going to outlaw divorce or return to a mythical time where there&#8217;s no sex outside of marriage.</p>
<p>That said, Parker&#8217;s notion that religion must be &#8220;returned to the privacy of one&#8217;s heart where it belongs&#8221; is as offensive as it is absurd.  Religious folk have every bit as much right as anyone else to speak their minds and to try to shift public policy towards their preferences.  For that matter, Christian belief is as valid a motivation as partisanship or ideology or habit or self-interest for forming positions on the candidates and the issues.</p>
<p>The GOP&#8217;s goal shouldn&#8217;t be to drive out the social conservatives but rather to bring in others.</p>
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		<title>Obama Mocks McCain&#8217;s Computer Skills</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Obama campaign launched a new ad yesterday, &#8220;Still,&#8221; which mocks John McCain for being out of touch because, among other things, he &#8220;doesn&#8217;t know how to use a computer&#8221; and &#8220;can&#8217;t send an email.&#8221;

The Charge: McCain Computer Illiterate
The key &#8216;graph in its entirety:
Things have changed in the last 26 years, but McCain hasn&#8217;t. He [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fobama_mocks_mccains_computer_skills%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fobama_mocks_mccains_computer_skills%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>The Obama campaign launched a new ad yesterday, &#8220;Still,&#8221; which <a title="Obama mocks McCain as computer illiterate" href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Sep/12/obama_mocks_mccain_as_computer_illiterate.html">mocks</a> John McCain for being out of touch because, among other things, he &#8220;doesn&#8217;t know how to use a computer&#8221; and &#8220;can&#8217;t send an email.&#8221;</p>
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<h3>The Charge: McCain Computer Illiterate</h3>
<p>The key &#8216;graph in its entirety:</p>
<blockquote><p>Things have changed in the last 26 years, but McCain hasn&#8217;t. He admits he still doesn&#8217;t know how to use a computer, can&#8217;t send an email, still doesn&#8217;t understand the economy, and favors 200 billion in tax cuts for corporations, but almost nothing for the middle class. After one president who was out of touch, we just can&#8217;t afford more of the same.</p></blockquote>
<p>All of these points are distortions, as are most of the attacks in McCain&#8217;s ads, but they&#8217;re all based on half truths that are documented.  Certainly, they&#8217;re all well within the bounds of the rules of the game.</p>
<p>McCain has repeatedly over the years, and as recently as the current primary campaign, stated that he doesn&#8217;t use the computer much and that he relies on his wife and staff to access it for him.  HuffPo&#8217;s <a title="McCain Computer Ignorance Raises New Questions: Can His Injured Hands Type?" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-granger/mccain-computer-ignorance_b_126123.html">Sarah Granger</a> dutifully rounds up several reports to that effect.</p>
<p>Basically, McCain reads email and uses the Internet to get information on a routine basis but prefers to talk to people on the phone and relies on others to do most of his keyboarding.</p>
<h3>McCain Was a POW.  In Vietnam.</h3>
<p>The ad has given McCain a perfect &#8212; and wholly legitimate &#8212; opportunity to remind voters that he spent five and a half years being tortured while serving his country in Vietnam.  (<em>I was unaware of that! -ed.</em> Yup, it&#8217;s true.  You can look it up on the Google.)   It turns out that there are numerous mainstream press reports, going back to at least the 2000 campaign, like <a title="McCain character loyal to a fault" href="http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>McCain&#8217;s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Why McCain Can't Use Computer - Vietnam" href="http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/archives2/024245.php">Glenn Reynolds</a> rounds up many more stories citing this fact.  <a title="Why can’t McCain e-mail? Boston Globe explained it in 2000; Update: So did Forbes" href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/12/why-cant-mccain-email/">Ed Morrissey</a> finds others.  <a title="Obama: Ha, Ha, McCain Is Old, He Can't Use a Computer North Vietnamese Captors: Yeah, Ha Ha, We Did That to Him; Pretty Good Gag, Eh?" href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/273335.php">Ace</a> others.</p>
<h3>McCain as Web Politics Pioneer</h3>
<p>It gets better.  The point of the McCain &#8220;doesn&#8217;t know how to use a computer&#8221; attack isn&#8217;t really about technical savvy, after all, but being in tune with the modern world.  The point is that McCain is stuck in 1982.</p>
<p>It turns out, though, that McCain was one of the first politicians to &#8220;get&#8221; the Internet as a powerful political tool.  <a title="Obama campaign is mocking John McCain for not using a computer" href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTliMTNiZjg5ZDEwZWNiZDYwZWFjN2JlNjNjNjkxZmM=">Jonah Goldberg</a> points to a February 2000 <em>Slate</em> piece from &#8220;one of the most pro-Obama journalists out there,&#8221; <a title="McCain's Web Explosion" href="http://www.slate.com/id/74812/">Jacob Weisberg</a>, called &#8220;<strong>McCain&#8217;s Web Explosion</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Six months ago, no one would have pegged McCain as the most cybersavvy of this year&#8217;s crop of candidates. At 63, he is the oldest of the bunch and because of his war injuries, he is limited in his ability to wield a keyboard. But McCain&#8217;s job as chairman of the Senate commerce committee forced him to learn about the Internet early on, and young Web entrepreneurs such as Jerry Yang and Jeff Bezos fascinate him. Well before he announced his exploratory committee, McCain had assimilated the notion that the Web could be vital to the kind of insurgent, anti-establishment campaign he wanted to run. In December 1998, he sent his longtime political aide Wes Gullett to Minnesota to study Jesse Ventura&#8217;s successful gubernatorial campaign, which was the first to use the Web in an effective and innovative way. &#8220;Wes went up to Minnesota and talked to Ventura&#8217;s people,&#8221; McCain told reporters on the Straight Talk Express yesterday. &#8220;That&#8217;s really where we got the idea.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Trippi Praised McCain's First Bold Attempt To Harness The Power Of The Internet" href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/13/trippi-praised-mccains-first-bold-attempt-to-harness-the-power-of-the-internet.php">Kevin Aylward</a> notes that Joe Trippi, the Democrat considered by many to be the king of Internet political operatives, prasied McCain profusedly in his book  <em>The Revolution Will Not Be Televised: Democracy, the Internet, and the Overthrow of Everything.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>I had watched the &#8220;1-800&#8243; populist candidates, like Jerry Brown and Ross Perot, and I closely followed <strong>John McCain&#8217;s insurgent Republican presidential bid in 2000, the first national campaign to attempt to make use of the Internet</strong>. I held my breath that year &#8211; excited that someone was trying it, but terrified that they&#8217;d pull it off before I got the chance. They didn&#8217;t. McCain managed to pull a decent number of people, about 40,000, into his campaign via the Internet, but it was the Newton of online political campaigns. The technology simply wasn&#8217;t quite mature enough yet; enough snow hadn&#8217;t been plowed.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The Dean campaign and all that we accomplished was made possible by the ideas and hard work of countless others who came before us: From Gary Hart&#8217;s brilliant concentric circle organizing strategy to <strong>John McCain&#8217;s first bold attempt to harness the power of the Internet</strong>, there are staff members and candidates who plowed the terrain and helped create what we were able to build. [emphases added]</p></blockquote>
<h3>Obama&#8217;s Unforced Error?</h3>
<p>So . . . Team Obama criticizes McCain for being unable to use the Internet and thus gives Team McCain 1) an opportunity to not only point out again how much he suffered putting his Country First, but to make Obama look meanspirited and insensitive for bringing up the point and 2) the ability to demonstrate that he&#8217;s not only not a moron about techical matters but actually beta tested a model that Obama and others have used more successfully since.</p>
<p>Beyond that, as Ace points out, Obama has inadvertantly insulted old people and handicapped people who don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t use the computer.</p>
<p>Oh, and in a classic rubber-glue situation, his attempt to belittle McCain&#8217;s being out of touch on technology backfires because, as <a title="McCain Computer Use, Obama Screws Up" href="http://www.memeorandum.com/080912/p153#a080912p153">half the blogosphere</a> has pointed out, he&#8217;s demonstrated that he&#8217;s managed to hire a huge staff, none of whom apparently know how to use the Google.</p>
<p>My colleague Dave Schuler, who will presumably vote for his fellow Chicago Democrat in November, observed on this week&#8217;s edition of OTB Radio that McCain has, since at least the Palin pick, managed to &#8220;get inside Obama&#8217;s <a title="OODA Loop" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_Loop">OODA loop</a>.&#8221;   It appears that, this time at least, Obama has done it to himself.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonah Goldberg has sparked a minor blogospheric furor for a recent column in which he castigated Barack Obama, John McCain, and others for promoting a compulsory national service program, which he compared to slavery.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fby_any_other_name%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fby_any_other_name%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a title="&lt;br &gt;&lt;/a&gt; Forced servitude in America?&lt;br /&gt; The U.S. already has high rates of volunteerism, but that's apparently not good enough for our presidential candidates." href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg8-2008jul08,0,368008.column">Jonah Goldberg</a> has sparked a <a href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10793#comments">minor</a> <a href="http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2008/07/thousand-points-of-servitude.html">blogospheric</a> <a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/jonah_goldberg_is_a_serial_rapist/">furor</a> for a recent column in which he castigated Barack Obama, John McCain, and others for promoting a compulsory national service program, which he compared to slavery.</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s a weird irony at work when Sen. Barack Obama, the black presidential candidate who will allegedly scrub the stain of racism from the nation, vows to run afoul of the constitutional amendment that abolished slavery.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t remember, the 13th Amendment says: &#8220;Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime &#8230; shall exist within the United States.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Most of the outrage directed at this column deals directly with these two paragraphs.  And, frankly, I do think that Goldberg did employ some bad rhetoric here.  But it&#8217;s bad rhetoric used to make an excellent point.  Namely, that there&#8217;s something un-American about compulsory national service.  As Goldberg points out:</p>
<blockquote><p>In his speech on national service Wednesday at the University of Colorado, Obama promised that as president he would &#8220;set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, Obama&#8217;s plan, like most plans of this type, doesn&#8217;t outright mandate that all students perform national service.  It merely makes such service a condition for federal education dollars.  So in a technical sense, these types of plans probably don&#8217;t run afoul of the 13th Amendment.  But they&#8217;re still pretty appalling, and I think that Goldberg does make an excellent point here:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is the real problem with national service mania: It seeks to fix what ain&#8217;t broke. No, national service isn&#8217;t slavery. But it contributes to a slave mentality, at odds with American tradition. It assumes that work not done for the government isn&#8217;t really for the &#8220;common good.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with this sentence wholeheartedly.  Both Obama and McCain&#8217;s service plans serve the nefarious idea that people ought to be <em>forced</em> to help somebody else, which is something that is anathema to the rights of &#8220;life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness&#8221; that this country was ostensibly founded upon.  I can&#8217;t be the only one who shook his head in disbelief at John McCain&#8217;s <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/page/parade/patriotism/mccain">essay about &#8216;patriotism</a>, in which he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Patriotism is deeper than its symbolic expressions, than sentiments about place and kinship that move us to hold our hands over our hearts during the national anthem. <strong>It is putting the country first, before party or personal ambition, before anything.</strong> [<em>emphasis added</em>]</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, in John McCain&#8217;s worldview, country reigns supreme.  Above religion.  Above conscience.  Above the human race as a whole.  At least, that&#8217;s the conclusion you have to reach if you take his words at face value.  But that&#8217;s the very ideology that drives the clamor for compulsory service&#8211;the idea that the lives of young people are not their own. That their dreams and their ambitions should be shunted aside in the name of some vaguely defined &#8220;greater good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look, if a kid wants to spend 50 hours a year volunteering at a soup kitchen or building a house for habitat for humanity, then more power to him.  If she wants to spend that time playing video games or basketball, or even *gasp!* holding down a part-time job well, that&#8217;s her choice, too.  The point of America is that you got to make the choice about what you want to do with your life, not have some bureaucrat decide for you.</p>
<p>Clunky prose aside, I think that Goldberg was dead on in condemning compulsory service.  It&#8217;s an antiquated, un-American notion that should by no means make its way into federal law.</p>
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		<title>Racist Toddlers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bizarre story in the London Telegraph, &#8220;Toddlers who dislike spicy food &#8216;racist,&#8217;&#8221; is getting some play, thus far only from conservative blogs.
The National Children&#8217;s Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from    Government funded organisations, has issued guidance to play leaders and    nursery teachers advising them to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fracist_toddlers%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fracist_toddlers%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>A <a title="Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist,'" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2261307/Toddlers-who-dislike-spicy-food-racist,-say-report.html">bizarre story</a> in the <em>London Telegraph</em>, &#8220;<strong>Toddlers who dislike spicy food &#8216;racist,&#8217;</strong>&#8221; is getting <a title="Toddlers who dislike spicy food 'racist'" href="http://www.memeorandum.com/080707/p63#a080707p63">some play</a>, thus far only from conservative blogs.</p>
<blockquote><p>The National Children&#8217;s Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from    Government funded organisations, has issued guidance to play leaders and    nursery teachers advising them to be alert for racist incidents among    youngsters in their care.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The 366-page guide for staff in charge of pre-school children, called Young    Children and Racial Justice, warns: &#8220;Racist incidents among children in    early years settings tend to be around name-calling, casual thoughtless    comments and peer group relationships.&#8221;</p>
<p>It advises nursery teachers to be on the alert for childish abuse such as: &#8220;blackie&#8221;,    &#8220;Pakis&#8221;, &#8220;those people&#8221; or &#8220;they smell&#8221;.</p>
<p>The guide goes on to warn that children might also &#8220;react negatively to a    culinary tradition other than their own by saying &#8216;yuk&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Staff are told: &#8220;No racist incident should be ignored. When there is a    clear racist incident, it is necessary to be specific in condemning the    action.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Weird Science: Big Brother PC Taste Test for (British) Kiddies" href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/07/weird_science_b.html">Debbie Schlussel</a> scoffs, &#8220;If me no likey da spicy food, then I&#8217;m a racist.&#8221;  Which is funny on many levels, most presumably unintentional.  But, not to worry, she&#8217;s enjoyed &#8220;spicy falafel and Plochman&#8217;s Spicy Kosciusko Mustard&#8221; since childhood, clearly proving she&#8217;s no racist.</p>
<p><a title="Does This Make My Daughter A Racist? " href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzJkNTI0ZDIwNzg5NDYxNmY1MmU0Y2Y4MGQ2NWU2NDU=">Jonah Goldberg </a>wonders if his own daughter is now a racist, given her occasional aversion to salsa.</p>
<p><a title="Parents, Watch Your Racist Toddler!" href="http://www.sundriesshack.com/?p=4780">Jimmie @ Sundries Shack </a>has the most intentionally-funny reaction:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to the guide, you should condemn your child directly and specifically. I suggest such phrases as: “You will eat that tortilla or no white hood for a month!” or “Mommy is sad because you hate Pakistanis”.</p>
<p>It’s never too early to be programming your child to meekly accept everything an authority figure tells them to do. One day they will be adults and they’ll need that skill.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="British Toddlers Required to Like Foreign Food" href="http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/07/british_toddler.html">Van Helsing</a> (which, I&#8217;m guessing, is a pseudonym) observes, &#8220;Monte Python in its prime would have been at a loss to outdo the self-parody into which Britain&#8217;s totalitarian political correctness has descended.&#8221;</p>
<p>I tend to share the consensus reaction that this is an absurd proposal.  It should be noted, however, that the NCB is merely an activist group, not an arm of the British government, and that the <em>Telegraph</em> has a reputation for sensationalism.  The extent to which this book should be taken seriously is far from clear.  Unfortunately, all the news accounts I&#8217;ve been able to locate on it thus far have been regurgitations of the same wire report.</p>
<p>NCB is <a href="http://www.ncb.org.uk/Page.asp?originx_6073ic_23555200356948j64k_2008772856u" title="Young Children and Racial Justice">distancing itself</a> from the more outlandish aspects of the book:</p>
<blockquote><p>NCB operates as a publishing house for specialist publications on issues affecting the lives of children, young people and their families. Where NCB believes there are very important messages to be communicated, debated and addressed by the sector, it will publish on the basis of book sale income covering costs of production.</p></blockquote>
<p>They also emphasize:</p>
<blockquote><p>The book is being funded from book sales alone – and not from government funding or from any grants, as has been reported. The sales have been excellent so far which goes to show there is an acknowledged need for books like it. </p></blockquote>
<p>Or that it&#8217;s outlandish and controversial.  </p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong>  <a href="http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=8828" title="Defining racism down">Bruce McQuain</a> identifies, as I neglected to, the real outrage here:  defining racism down.  If saying &#8220;Yuk&#8221; to food that doesn&#8217;t suit one&#8217;s palette qualifies, then the concept loses all meaning. </p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arthur Silber is, as am I, fascinated by the cult of personality surrounding Barack Obama.  He notes some anecdotal creepy gushing on a local radio show and then
Reactions of this kind to Obama are fairly common. No, they are not this extreme much of the time, but such statements are far from unusual. And many [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fobama_charimatic_hitler_armageddon_%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fobama_charimatic_hitler_armageddon_%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a title="It's the 1930s, and You Are There" href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/06/its-1930s-and-you-are-there.html">Arthur Silber</a> is, as am I, fascinated by the cult of personality surrounding Barack Obama.  He notes some anecdotal creepy gushing on a local radio show and then</p>
<blockquote><p>Reactions of this kind to Obama are fairly common. No, they are not this extreme much of the time, but such statements are far from unusual. And many of Obama&#8217;s less obviously deluded supporters fall along the same continuum. Take a look at the woozily sentimental, intellectually reprehensible remarks collected at the beginning of &#8220;<a href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-whitewash.html">Obama&#8217;s Whitewash</a>,&#8221; the third excerpt <a href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/03/women-men-americans-are-dumb.html">here</a>, and the comments <a href="http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/03/barack-and-america-are-teh-awesome.html">here</a>. Moreover, this kind of reaction &#8212; an emotion-driven response utterly devoid of coherent ideational content, a response that leads far too many people to be enthusiastically willing to believe virtually anything that Obama might proclaim and <em>to follow him anywhere</em> &#8212; is one that Obama and his campaign explicitly seek to elicit.</p>
<p>People had better wake the hell up, and they had better study some history very damned fast. I have sometimes remarked, and I repeat the warning here, that the twentieth century was a nonstop train of horrors &#8212; yet in one sense, the most terrible and horrifying aspect of the twentieth century is that <em>we learned absolutely nothing from it.</em></p>
<p>Among the horrors of the twentieth century were several notable leaders who initiated events that led to slaughter and destruction on an ungraspably monumental scale. These charismatic leaders evoked a response from their followers almost identical to that called forth by Obama. These leaders specialized in &#8220;personal stories of political conversion.&#8221; Doesn&#8217;t anyone see the connection? Doesn&#8217;t anyone remember <em>any</em> of this?</p></blockquote>
<p>This, incidentally, from a man who can scarcely imagine voting for a <em>Republican</em>.</p>
<p><a title=" Look, I realize that Obama's apologists need to feel clever, but lumping Arthur Silber in the same category as Jonah Goldberg?" href="http://ajbenjaminjrbeta.blogspot.com/2008/06/look-i-realize-that-obamas-apologists.html">James Benjamin</a> goes further:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although I seriously doubt that Obama is the next Hitler, his followers are every bit as <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2006/02/beware-of-weird-political-cult-ie.html">authoritarian</a> <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2004/10/tolerant-republicans-speak-out.html">as</a> <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2004/10/more-tolerant-republicans-speak-out.html">those</a> <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2004/10/tolerant-republicans-speak-out_31.html">who</a> <a href="http://www.statesman.com/specialreports/content/specialreports/greatdivide/PADOY101_MEMBER_SHOWCASE_MEMB.html">followed</a> <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2004/11/tolerant-republicans-speak-out-gift.html">Bush</a> (or <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2003/10/progressive-candidate-roughed-up-by-ah.html">Schwarzenegger</a>, as <a href="http://ajbenjaminjr.blogspot.com/2003/10/brownshirt-tactics-from-ahnuld-camp.html">I seem to recall</a>) just a few years ago, and that&#8217;s something a despot, a strongman would want.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>I would not be at all surprised if either Obama himself were revealed to be some sort of wild card <a href="http://ajbenjaminjrbeta.blogspot.com/2007/08/american-politics-lefts-left-out.html">authoritarian</a> in his own right, and/or numerous of his followers were wild card authoritarians &#8211; i.e., those who can pose as &#8220;leftists&#8221; but once in a position of power begin to crack down on dissent much like the right-wingers we all know and loathe. Obama&#8217;s own <a href="http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/06/obama_rivals_no.html">embrace</a> of <a href="http://ajbenjaminjrbeta.blogspot.com/2008/06/so-wheres-change.html">warmongers</a>, <a href="http://ajbenjaminjrbeta.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-pick-for-economic-advisor-is-one.html">neoliberals</a>, and of course of <a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-obama-kinda-likes-fisa-bill-but-he.html">the awful FISA bill</a> that is likely destined to pass does not bode well for those who wish to continue arguing that he is &#8220;progressive&#8221; (whatever that is supposed to mean any more). The behavior by groups of Obama fanatics on some of the community blogs (lots of bully tactics as I recall) and the apparent <a href="http://ajbenjaminjrbeta.blogspot.com/2008/06/flagging-political-opponents-blogs-as.html">efforts by Obama partisans to shut down individually run anti-Obama blogs</a> is a relatively mild expression of that authoritarianism; we should keep in mind that we&#8217;re still early in the game.</p></blockquote>
<p><a title="Did you know that Barack Obama is leading a crypto-messianic, quasi-fascist movement?" href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/like_a_thief_in_the_night/">Jesse Taylor</a> believes this line of reasoning has guano-level sanity and snarks, &#8220;While he lacks any political element of fascism in his platform, he makes up for it in some people liking him a lot, which is like 60% of fascism anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama is quite possibly the most charismatic politician of my lifetime.  Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton both had superb oratorical skills and charismatic personalities but neither made crowds swoon to the extent Obama does.  John Kennedy was murdered before I was born and it&#8217;s hard for me to assess him apart from the strange fascination and conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination plot.  Perhaps Dwight Eisenhower and, certainly, Franklin Roosevelt had it.</p>
<p>Like Silber, it worries me when people get so emotionally involved in their leaders.  I&#8217;m not concerned that Obama is going to annex Canada and start the ethnic cleansing of white working class Appalachians and people named Larry;   Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were evil men, not good ones who went mad with too much power.</p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t think that George Bush or Arnold Schwarzenegger (or even Rudy Giuliani) are &#8220;authoritarians,&#8221; &#8220;despots,&#8221; or &#8220;strongmen,&#8221; either.  Executives naturally believe in the rightness of their cause and seek to push the envelope of their power when they&#8217;re being thwarted by inconvenient institutions.  Some do so more than others.</p>
<p>The problem with cults of personality in the American experience is it that it furthers our tendency to trust government to take care of us.  FDR was well meaning in constructing the New Deal and the vast machinery of government bureaucracy needed to support it to combat the unique challenges of the Great Depression; unfortunately, the solution long outlasted the crisis.  Similarly, I believe torture, rendition, habeus corpus suspension, the Department of Homeland Security, and the other over-reactions to the 9/11 attacks were well intentioned measures to make us safer.</p>
<p>Both Obama and his opponent, John McCain, have a streak of crusading righteousness in them that leads to a dismissiveness to criticism.  Some of our best and some of our worst presidents have had it.   Fortunately, we have a set of institutions &#8212; separation of powers, checks and balances, federalism &#8212; and a political culture that make realizing authoritarian ideals difficult.</p>
<p><em>via <a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/080630/p144#a080630p144" title="It's the 1930s, and You Are There … I have several complicated essays … (Arthur Silber/Once Upon a Time)">memeorandum</a></em></p>
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		<title>Going to War with the Ideology You Have</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin Drum, responding to Jonah Goldberg&#8217;s argument that George Packer&#8217;s &#8220;The Fall of Conservatism&#8221; erroneously conflates conservatism with the Republican Party, retorts:
No political ideology lives in isolation. We judge communism by how Mao and Stalin implemented it, we judge 60s-era liberalism by how LBJ and the Democratic Party implemented it, and we judge social democracy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgoing_to_war_with_the_ideology_you_have%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgoing_to_war_with_the_ideology_you_have%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a title="ACTUAL EXISTING CONSERVATISM" href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_05/013772.php">Kevin Drum</a>, responding to <a title="Packing it In" href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2E3YTlhMTgxODI5MTUyNTUwYWMzZjgxZDgxODc2NzE=">Jonah Goldberg</a>&#8217;s argument that <a title="Packing it In" href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/26/080526fa_fact_packer?printable=true">George Packer</a>&#8217;s &#8220;The Fall of Conservatism&#8221; erroneously conflates conservatism with the Republican Party, retorts:</p>
<blockquote><p>No political ideology lives in isolation. We judge communism by how Mao and Stalin implemented it, we judge 60s-era liberalism by how LBJ and the Democratic Party implemented it, and we judge social democracy by how Western Europe has implemented it. That&#8217;s how you judge movements: by how their real-life adherents put them into practice, not by reference to a utopian vision of how they should be implemented if only we lived in the best of all possible worlds.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, now that the Republican Party has been brought low, an awful lot of conservatives are jumping ship, claiming that it really doesn&#8217;t represent them at all. But look: when the GOP made common cause with evangelical extremists, conservatives cheered. When the GOP accepted Grover Norquist&#8217;s tax jihad as sacred writ, conservatives cheered. When Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay all but declared the GOP the party of corporate welfare, conservatives cheered. When George Bush declared war on the Middle East, conservatives cheered. Somehow Burke never really entered the discussion. But now that it turns out these positions have been pretty much played out, Burke is back in and Karl Rove is out. That&#8217;s just a little too convenient.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly right.  Especially when, in the same three-paragraph piece, Goldberg does exactly what he accuses Packer of: &#8220;[L]ast I checked liberals are not exactly churning out a lot of policy brilliance either. Their rising fortune has almost entirely to do with the political failures of the GOP and the natural cyclical nature of politics generally.&#8221;</p>
<p>Goldberg, incidentally, hits the nail on the head with that one.  Even though Democrats control Congress again, the American people have been trained to view both history and current events in presidential cycles.  We&#8217;re in a down cycle right now so, naturally, George W. Bush and, by extension, the Republican Party, get the blame and the opposition party&#8217;s calls for change naturally have tremendous appeal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, too, that there&#8217;s not a perfect overlap between conservative/Republican and liberal/Democrat, although it&#8217;s much closer now than it was even ten or twenty years ago. For example, the highly touted Democratic pickups in recent special elections were achieved by finding conservative candidates to wear the Democrat label.  Still, the parties, especially the Republicans, brand themselves by their ideology.  (The Democrats have shied away from &#8220;liberal&#8221; in recent years, as Ronald Reagan successfully turned that into an epithet.  But they&#8217;re still selling the same soap in a &#8220;progressive&#8221; wrapper.)</p>
<p>Modern American conservatism is a strange coalition between social conservatives motivated by a fear that they&#8217;re losing the cultural wars, national security hawks of various stripes, and economic libertarians.  With the right standard bearer and set of external circumstances, that&#8217;s a winning  message at the presidential level.  All three groups are necessary for Republicans to win in the Electoral College even though they (especially the first and third group) tend not to like each other very much.</p>
<p>The social conservatives are in the most trouble of the three groups.  First trimester abortion will never be illegal; indeed, the ability to terminate pregnancy safely at home will continue to increase, making it a moot point.  Homosexuality is rapidly mainstreaming and gay marriage will achieve the status of interracial marriage through some combination of judicial action and social change within the next 10-15 years.  Women&#8217;s equality is long established now, with the remaining battles taking place over relatively small issues.  Prayer in school is a dead issue.  It&#8217;s not clear what&#8217;s left, really, of the movement as it existed when Ronald Reagan was its secular standard bearer.</p>
<p>The economic libertarians continue to carry the day on the macro level but lose on the margins.  Institutionally, rent-seeking behavior is all but impossible to eliminate.  And, as Kevin suggests, we&#8217;re near the end of the days where calling for tax cuts is a sure-fire winner.  Not because people don&#8217;t like low taxes, incidentally, but because, relatively speaking, we already have them.  Cutting the top marginal rate from 90 to 70 to 35 all make sense.  It&#8217;s hard to morally justify confiscating the lion&#8217;s share of a person&#8217;s income, regardless of their ability to pay.  But arguing about the difference between 35 and 33 just isn&#8217;t very sexy.  And the demand for government programs is increasing, not decreasing, and somebody has to pay for it.</p>
<p>Despite the incredible unpopularity of the Iraq War, the hawks are in the best shape.  They dominate both parties, with the difference being what the legitimate reasons for military intervention are. And even that difference has been blurred with the rise of the neocons and their &#8220;national greatness&#8221; agenda. Rhetorically, it&#8217;s light years from the liberal interventionists; practically, they&#8217;re all but identical.</p>
<p>All that said, I&#8217;d put the odds at John McCain nonetheless winning the presidency in November at something like 40:60.  He&#8217;s fighting an uphill battle because of Bush, the war, his age, and Obama&#8217;s enormous personal charm and charisma.  Despite many conservatives&#8217; distaste for him, McCain will run under the conservative banner and sell soft versions of all three pieces of the movement.  The fear of further losses under Obama will motivate an enormous number of people but McCain will need some help from external events for that to be enough this go-round.</p>
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		<title>Goldberg, Coulter, and Savage</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Goldberg, Kevin Holtsberry, and Steve Dillard take exception to the assertion in my recent post on The Conservative Minority that &#8220;the modern Conservative Moment seems to be dominated by the shrill nonsense of Coulter and Jonah Goldberg and Michael Savage and Neil Boortz.&#8221; 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgoldberg_coulter_and_savage%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fgoldberg_coulter_and_savage%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p><a href='http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/goldberg_coulter_and_savage/liberal_fascism/' rel='attachment wp-att-22332' title='Liberal Fascism'><img src='http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/liberal-fascism.jpg' alt='Liberal Fascism' align=right hspace=15 width=300/></a> <a href="http://liberalfascism.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjE1NTk3N2U3ZTczMjM1MGM2YTc1ODNkNWM0MjYxNjk=" title="Me &#038; Michael Savage, Peas in a Pod" title="Coulter, Savage, Boortz and Goldberg?">Goldberg</a>, <a href="http://www.redstate.com/redhot/kevin_holtsberry/2008/feb/04/coulter_savage_boortz_and_goldberg">Kevin Holtsberry</a>, and <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/the_conservative_minority_/#comment-274734">Steve Dillard</a> take exception to the assertion in my recent post on <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/the_conservative_minority_/" title="The Conservative Minority » Outside The Beltway | OTB">The Conservative Minority</a> that &#8220;the modern Conservative Moment seems to be dominated by the shrill nonsense of Coulter and Jonah Goldberg and Michael Savage and Neil Boortz.&#8221; </p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s a good sign that conservatives at least recognize that being associated with these people is counterproductive.</p>
<p>As for Goldberg, the inclusion is perhaps too broad.  He&#8217;s taken over as editor of NRO&#8217;s <em>The Corner</em> and he&#8217;s one of the more temperate voices there.  Stylistically, he&#8217;s not a bomb thrower in the mold of Coulter, let alone a flaming nutbag like Savage.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s on the list almost exclusively by virtue of his book, <em>Liberal Fascism</em>, and the recent controversy over it.  While I get the desire to rebut the notion that Fascism is right-wing phenomenon and therefore somehow comparable to American mainstream conservatism, the argument that American liberals are proto-Fascists is quite silly.  The use of inflammatory titles, while an excellent publicity vehicle for selling books, is decidedly unhelpful if one&#8217;s purpose is to advance serious argument.  </p>
<p>There is, however, a stark difference between Coulter, who seriously argues that liberals are traitors, fascists, or whathaveyou, than cutesy publicity stunts.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel like I&#8217;m beating a dead horse on the issue, but the continued high pitched battle between conservative Republicans who have rallied around conservative-come-lately Mitt Romney in hopes of defeating Teddy Kennedy&#8217;s Good Friend John McCain remains the most interesting story this election cycle. 
Conservatives Love Romney
The most recent Rasmussen poll shows that &#8220;Romney [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fthe_conservative_minority_%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fthe_conservative_minority_%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>I feel like I&#8217;m beating a dead horse on the issue, but the continued high pitched battle between conservative Republicans who have rallied around conservative-come-lately Mitt Romney in hopes of defeating Teddy Kennedy&#8217;s Good Friend John McCain remains the most interesting story this election cycle. </p>
<p><strong>Conservatives Love Romney</strong></p>
<p>The most recent <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll" title="Daily Presidential Tracking Poll">Rasmussen poll</a> shows that &#8220;Romney leads by sixteen percentage points among conservatives while McCain has a two-to-one advantage among moderate Primary Voters.&#8221;  Of course, Rasmussen shows Romney and McCain tied nationally, whereas Gallup and  Fox show McCain leading by 20 and 28 points, respectively.  Even <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/02/rasmussen-shows-mccainromney-dead-heat-romney-leads-mccain-among-conservatives-by-16-percent/" title="Rasmussen shows McCain/Romney dead heat; Romney leads McCain among conservatives by 16 percent">Michelle Malkin</a> acknowledges that the poll is &#8220;the anomaly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, that Romney is outpolling McCain among self-identified conservatives is a consistent trend.  We&#8217;ve seen it time and again in the exit polls.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/02/019697.php" title="Surprisingly Liberal">John Hinderaker</a> asserts that, &#8220;as the primary season draws to a close, most conservatives are coalescing around Mitt Romney.&#8221;  <a href="http://dailypundit.com/?p=29493" title="The War for the GOP">Bill Quick</a> believes we are now engaged in &#8220;the War for the GOP&#8221; with the &#8220;GOP establishment attempting to remake the party in its preferred liberal-conservative image &#8211; an image in which the &#8216;conservative&#8217; part is mostly window dressing for the suckers.</p>
<p><strong>Republicans Voting for McCain, Not Romney</strong></p>
<p>Yet, for reasons <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/02/you_election_central_overview.php" title="Chart: Polls In Super Tuesday States Show McCain Has It Made">Eric Kleefeld</a> lays out nicely, McCain is likely to emerge Tuesday night as the prohibitive favorite to win the Republican nomination.   <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/02/rasmussen-national-poll-mitt-30-mccain-30-huckabee-21/" title="Rasmussen national poll: Mitt 30, McCain 30, Huckabee 21; Update: “Battle for the future of the party”; Update: McCain 44, Mitt 24, says Gallup">AllahPundit</a>, who strongly prefers Romney but maintains a realistic outlook, concurs.</p>
<p>So, we have two countervailing trends:</p>
<ul>
<li>Conservatives prefer Romney over McCain, hands down</li>
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<li>McCain is winning Republican primaries against Romney</li>
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<p>This, incidentally, despite Romney having outspent McCain by ridiculous margins in television advertising.</p>
<p>What is one to conclude from this?  </p>
<p><strong>Perhaps &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are now a minority, even among Republican primary voters?</strong>  If so, given that there are virtually no conservatives remaining in the Democratic Party these days and that voters who aren&#8217;t aligned with either party are almost by definition non-ideological, that would mean that conservatives are a small minority, indeed, among the American electorate.</p>
<p><strong>Alternatively, perhaps the definition of &#8220;conservative&#8221; has become so narrow and esoteric that it&#8217;s become virtually meaningless?</strong></p>
<p>When Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and again in 1984, he did it by putting together a coalition of small government conservatives, social conservatives, and anti-communists.  He famously engendered the support of blue collar folks who were dubbed &#8220;Reagan Democrats.&#8221;  Most of that group simply became Reagan Republicans.</p>
<p>Has the country gotten that much less conservative since then?  </p>
<p>In some ways, yes.  We&#8217;re much more tolerant on lifestyle issues, notably the role of women and acceptance of homosexuality, than we were a generation ago.  Abortion has now been legal for 35 years, not a mere seven. We&#8217;re also much further removed from the days of the military draft, which means fewer of our menfolk have served.</p>
<p>But, fundamentally, we&#8217;re the same country we were in 1980.  We&#8217;re still the most religious country in the developed world and probably the most patriotic.  We&#8217;re more citified and more homogenized than we were but we still cling to the John Wayne rugged individualist mythos to a large degree.</p>
<p><strong>The conservative majority has become a Conservative minority. </strong> </p>
<p>The Conservative Movement has morphed from a handful of intellectual true believers trying to shape the debate into something approaching a civil religion with loyalty tests and a clericy that has the power to excommunicate.</p>
<p>John McCain was part of the 1980 wave that rolled into Congress on Ronald Reagan&#8217;s coattails.  Indeed, <a href="http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWExOGEwZTA0NWNiNjM2OGI0MTAwM2I5M2ZlMDU2NmU=" title="A Familiar Name in Reagan's 1974 CPAC Address">McCain was among those Reagan was honored to stand with</a> at 1974&#8217;s CPAC convention.   But someone with an 82 percent lifetime ACU rating is considered a traitor to the cause.  Much better, apparently, to flip 180 degrees on election eve and spout the right Party Line talking points.</p>
<p>As I wrote last year from CPAC, when throngs of so-called conservatives lined up for Ann Coulter&#8217;s autograph moments after she referred to <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/03/cpac_-_ann_coulter_/" title="Ann Coulter Calls John Edwards ‘Faggot’">John Edwards as a &#8220;faggot,&#8221;</a> &#8220;Somehow, I can’t imagine Ronald Reagan being pleased.&#8221; Yet, the modern Conservative Moment seems to be dominated by the shrill nonsense of Coulter and Jonah Goldberg[*] and Michael Savage and Neil Boortz.   In short, the Conservative Movement is no longer particularly &#8220;conservative&#8221; at all.</p>
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<p>[*] UPDATE: See <a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2008/02/goldberg_coulter_and_savage/">Goldberg, Coulter, and Savage</a> for a follow-up to this point.</p>
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		<title>Conservatives Against McCain</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judging by the enemies he&#8217;s making, I&#8217;m liking John McCain more with each passing day.  
Ann Coulter says she&#8217;d &#8220;campaign for&#8221; Hillary Clinton, who she thinks &#8220;is more conservative.&#8221;

Meanwhile, Glenn Beck is railing against &#8220;Juan McCain&#8221; for his outreach to Hispanics.
Thankfully, this over-the-top stuff is being rejected by most conservatives. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="tweetmeme_button" style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><a href="http://api.tweetmeme.com/share?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fconservatives_against_mccain%2F"><img src="http://api.tweetmeme.com/imagebutton.gif?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.outsidethebeltway.com%2Farchives%2Fconservatives_against_mccain%2F" height="61" width="51" /></a></div><p>Judging by the enemies he&#8217;s making, I&#8217;m liking John McCain more with each passing day.  </p>
<p>Ann Coulter says she&#8217;d &#8220;campaign for&#8221; Hillary Clinton, who she thinks &#8220;is more conservative.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/31/beck-juan-mccain/" title="Glenn Beck’s Rants Against ‘Juan McCain’ Would Not Be Welcome At RedState.com">Glenn Beck is railing against &#8220;Juan McCain&#8221;</a> for his outreach to Hispanics.</p>
<p>Thankfully, this over-the-top stuff is being rejected by most conservatives. </p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/31/coulter-if-mccains-the-nominee-ill-campaign-for-hillary/" title="Coulter: If McCain’s the nominee, I’ll campaign for Hillary">AllahPundit</a> calls Coulter&#8217;s statement &#8220;Madness&#8221; and <a href="http://www.theamericanmind.com/2008/02/01/ann-coulter-is-officially-an-idiot/" title="Ann Coulter is Officially an Idiot">Sean Hackbarth</a>, late of the Fred Thompson campaign, says she is &#8220;officially an idiot.&#8221; </p>
<p><em>RedState</em>&#8217;s <a href="http://www.redstate.com/stories/miscellanea/and_now_a_word_for_our_commenters" title="Racism is not welcome at RedState">Leon H Wolf </a> warns commenters that they may &#8220;complain vociferously about McCain, Bush, or anyone else&#8217;s position on immigration&#8221; but they will be banned from the site if they do so in racist terms.  </p>
<p>Even <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjAzOGJiMTkzMDA5Y2ZhZTA3NzZiMWYxNzZmM2E5NTQ=" title="McCain &#038; The Corner ">Jonah Goldberg</a>, hardly the voice of rational discourse while hawking a book about how American liberals are Fascists, thinks &#8220;the notion that, variously, conservatism, the country or the party are doomed if he&#8217;s the nominee or the president is pretty absurd.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moreover, he makes an interesting point:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think both the GOP and the conservative movement could benefit from a slightly more adversarial relationship. George W. Bush moved the party leftward and/or damaged the image of the GOP in many respects precisely because he was given the benefit of the doubt by conservatives who saw him as &#8220;one of us.&#8221; It&#8217;s not obvious to me that having a more <em>transactional</em> relationship with a Republican president would be altogether bad for the country, the party or the conservative movement.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I&#8217;ve noted many times before, the mainstream of both major American parties would fit comfortably within the British Conservative Party.  Indeed, within its right wing.  So, the choice between Hillary Clinton and John McCain, if it comes to that, isn&#8217;t one between extremes.  Contra <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjA5NTllM2RkY2RjNTc4MzVkNmU3MWEwNGNmYTUzNjQ=" title="The Non-Debate">Victor David Hanson</a>, the &#8220;gulf&#8221; between them is hardly &#8220;Grand-Canyon like.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say, however, that the election is unimportant or that there are not significant differences.  Clinton isn&#8217;t <a href="http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/" title="Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007">Barack Obama, the most liberal senator</a> in a recent <em>National Journal</em> survey, but she is #16.   The full chart apparently is available only to subscribers, so I can&#8217;t find a comparable score for McCain.  We do know, however, that his <a href="http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/pdf/06republicans.pdf">lifetime conservative rating</a> using the same index is 71.8.  This compares favorably with Tom Tancredo, a darling of the Borders Are Our Only Issue conservatives, who rates 75.9.</p>
<p>Additionally, from a conservative perspective, there&#8217;s another advantage to voting for McCain:  You know that he <em>actually</em> agrees with you on the issues where he <em>says</em> he agrees with you.  Whether he&#8217;s 71.8 percent conservative or 82.6 (American Conservative Union), it&#8217;s hard to accuse him of pandering.  With Clinton, conversely, one can be excused for wondering if she&#8217;s just positioning herself for maximum political benefit. </p>
<p><b>UPDATE (Alex Knapp)</b>:  Regarding the <i>National Journal</i> survey naming Obama &#8220;the most liberal Democrat&#8221;, Steve Benen has an <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_01/013024.php">excellent post</a> explaining exactly why this is a ridiculous finding (since I don&#8217;t think anyone seriously thinks that Obama is more liberal than, say, Russ Feingold):<br />
<blockquote>What&#8217;s more, Obama was the 16th most liberal senator in 2005, and the 10th most liberal in 2006, before racing to the front of the pack in 2007. National Journal suggests this has something to do with Obama moving to the left to curry favor with Democratic primary voters.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a more logical explanation: Obama missed a whole lot of votes in 2007 &#8212; he&#8217;s been on the campaign trail &#8212; but was on the floor for many of the biggest, most consequential votes. In nearly every instance, he voted with the party. And with that, voila! The most liberal senator in America.</p>
<p>Except that&#8217;s not much of a standard. The rankings use an amorphous meaning of the word &#8220;liberal,&#8221; and the percentage doesn&#8217;t take missed votes into account at all (which also helps explain why Kerry nabbed the top spot four years ago)</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.brianbeutler.com/2008/01/most_liberal_se/">Brian Beutler</a> further elaborates:<br />
<blockquote>Yes, passion is hard to gauge. But instead of trying (by, say, logging hours spent speaking at hearings, from the chamber, etc., and assigning those a value to be paired with voting records) National Journal relies instead on a weird system by which a senator who takes the &#8220;liberal&#8221; position 95 times out of 100 is somehow less liberal than his colleague who takes the liberal position 48 times out of 50.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most of these types of &#8220;voting guides&#8221; are dubious, and tend to say more about the groups promoting them than they do about the politicians they are ostensibly describing.</p>
<p><b>UPDATE (James Joyner)</b>: Fair point on the various rating scales.  There are all manner of problems &#8212; What counts as &#8220;conservative&#8221; vice &#8220;liberal&#8221;? What to do with missed votes? &#8212; but they have the advantage of being independent measures.  <em>National Journal</em> or ACU or whathaveyou have a system in place and it serves as a means of comparison.  It&#8217;s not perfect, by any means, but it&#8217;s preferable than basing one&#8217;s view on two or three controversial votes, which is what campaigns seem to focus on.</p>
<p><b>UPDATE II (James Joyner)</b>:  Sociologist <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/01/liberal-senators/" title="Liberal Senators">Kieran Healy</a> endorses <a href="http://voteview.ucsd.edu/sen110.htm" title="110th Senate Rank Ordering">Lewis and Poole’s Optimal Classification ranking</a> as a better alternative.  By this measure, Obama is merely the 21st most liberal senator and Clinton is 25th.  McCain is 94th.</p>
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