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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16304</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Christ&#039;s sake, that report is classified Secret NOFORN! What the hell is going on with DoD&#039;s attitude toward security?

Either that report was over-classified, or someone should be...[calm down, Boyd] severely punished.

I retire, and the military goes to Hell in a handbasket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Christ's sake, that report is classified Secret NOFORN! What the hell is going on with DoD's attitude toward security?</p>
<p>Either that report was over-classified, or someone should be...[calm down, Boyd] severely punished.</p>
<p>I retire, and the military goes to Hell in a handbasket.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16305</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know, NOFORN isn&#039;t necessarily about national security as it is about keeping info close to the vest. As best I can tell, there&#039;s no sensitive sources and methods to be protected here, just the names of the accused and the fact of the incidents themselves. Most of that has leaked, anywhere, so they may figure getting it all out is the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know, NOFORN isn't necessarily about national security as it is about keeping info close to the vest. As best I can tell, there's no sensitive sources and methods to be protected here, just the names of the accused and the fact of the incidents themselves. Most of that has leaked, anywhere, so they may figure getting it all out is the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16306</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It still flies in the face of the law. If it is deemed appropriate for distribution by the Classification Authority, then it should be officially declassified first. Violating the process just breeds contempt for it.

This kind of nonsense really gets under my skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It still flies in the face of the law. If it is deemed appropriate for distribution by the Classification Authority, then it should be officially declassified first. Violating the process just breeds contempt for it.</p>
<p>This kind of nonsense really gets under my skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16307</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and NOFORN carries just as much as importance as the actual classifications, if not more. Furthermore, it&#039;s still SECRET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and NOFORN carries just as much as importance as the actual classifications, if not more. Furthermore, it's still SECRET.</p>
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		<title>By: John McMullen</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16308</link>
		<dc:creator>John McMullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a violation to classify reports that reveal violations of the law by Presidential Order 13292 (see citation below).  The comments above are more concerned with keeping secrets than with our reprehensible actions.  This administration has set the tone for these tortures to be able to occur by their sweeping revocation of right under the Patriot Act and by their torture chambers at Guantanamo without benefit of counself or Habeas Corpus.  Keeping people locked in a room and keeping people continuously awake or sleep-deprived is an extreme form of torture that the Chinese Communists perfected in the Korean War.  

THE WHITE HOUSE 
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release 
March 25, 2003
EXECUTIVE ORDER 13292
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FURTHER AMENDMENT TO EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958, AS AMENDED, 
CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION 
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to further amend Executive Order 12958, as amended, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12958 is amended to read as follows: 


Classified National Security Information
Sec. 1.7. Classification Prohibitions and Limitations. (a) In no case shall information be classified in order to: 
(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error; 
(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency; 
(3) restrain competition; or 
(4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a violation to classify reports that reveal violations of the law by Presidential Order 13292 (see citation below).  The comments above are more concerned with keeping secrets than with our reprehensible actions.  This administration has set the tone for these tortures to be able to occur by their sweeping revocation of right under the Patriot Act and by their torture chambers at Guantanamo without benefit of counself or Habeas Corpus.  Keeping people locked in a room and keeping people continuously awake or sleep-deprived is an extreme form of torture that the Chinese Communists perfected in the Korean War.  </p>
<p>THE WHITE HOUSE<br />
Office of the Press Secretary<br />
For Immediate Release<br />
March 25, 2003<br />
EXECUTIVE ORDER 13292<br />
- - - - - - - </p>
<p>FURTHER AMENDMENT TO EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958, AS AMENDED,<br />
CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION<br />
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to further amend Executive Order 12958, as amended, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12958 is amended to read as follows: </p>
<p>Classified National Security Information<br />
Sec. 1.7. Classification Prohibitions and Limitations. (a) In no case shall information be classified in order to:<br />
(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;<br />
(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;<br />
(3) restrain competition; or<br />
(4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16309</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a sad day when we are more concerned about the process (i.e. secret or not), rather than just being outraged at what has occured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a sad day when we are more concerned about the process (i.e. secret or not), rather than just being outraged at what has occured.</p>
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		<title>By: fps</title>
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		<dc:creator>fps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real hero in ths mess is the person who released this report.  And; thank God for Geeneral Taguba!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real hero in ths mess is the person who released this report.  And; thank God for Geeneral Taguba!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone seriously believe we would ever have learned anything about this but for 60 Minutes airing the photos?

Snyder&#039;s report in November should have been enough. Taguba&#039;s report was available to Rumsfeld in late January.

Bush&#039;s claim that it took seeing the photos to realize how bad the situation was is the lamest excuse I&#039;ve ever heard.

Anyone in a position of authority with a shred of decency who read or was told about Taguba&#039;s 6th finding of fact should have been outraged and taken immediate and forceful action.

It&#039;s typical of this administration to sit on anything detrimental unless and until they&#039;re forced by events to address the issue - at which point they attempt to &quot;spin&quot; the problem and blame others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone seriously believe we would ever have learned anything about this but for 60 Minutes airing the photos?</p>
<p>Snyder's report in November should have been enough. Taguba's report was available to Rumsfeld in late January.</p>
<p>Bush's claim that it took seeing the photos to realize how bad the situation was is the lamest excuse I've ever heard.</p>
<p>Anyone in a position of authority with a shred of decency who read or was told about Taguba's 6th finding of fact should have been outraged and taken immediate and forceful action.</p>
<p>It's typical of this administration to sit on anything detrimental unless and until they're forced by events to address the issue - at which point they attempt to "spin" the problem and blame others.</p>
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		<title>By: Les T</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16312</link>
		<dc:creator>Les T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it just typical that when all this was coming to light Bush was out beating the bushes in Michigan and Ohio for more bucks.  It&#039;s no wonder that he never knew about any of this, he&#039;s never in Washington DC long enough to check the mail.  Who IS running the store?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't it just typical that when all this was coming to light Bush was out beating the bushes in Michigan and Ohio for more bucks.  It's no wonder that he never knew about any of this, he's never in Washington DC long enough to check the mail.  Who IS running the store?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well here&#039;s the way I see it.  This was a problem that was being taken care of by those that should have been taking care of it. The release of those pics. is as shameful as what those pics. expose. The people who are responsible both actions should be held accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here's the way I see it.  This was a problem that was being taken care of by those that should have been taking care of it. The release of those pics. is as shameful as what those pics. expose. The people who are responsible both actions should be held accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: john dowden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16314</link>
		<dc:creator>john dowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should CLEAN HOUSE!  If he doesn&#039;t, the American people will .  .  .  in November!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should CLEAN HOUSE!  If he doesn't, the American people will .  .  .  in November!</p>
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		<title>By: john dowden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16315</link>
		<dc:creator>john dowden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush should CLEAN HOUSE!  If he doesn&#039;t, the American people will .  .  .  in November!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush should CLEAN HOUSE!  If he doesn't, the American people will .  .  .  in November!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa H Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16316</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa H Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening. Today I&#039;m humiliated to be an American.  These people deserve harsh consequences as shouls Rumsfeld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening. Today I'm humiliated to be an American.  These people deserve harsh consequences as shouls Rumsfeld.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16317</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the rest of the report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the rest of the report?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/taguba_report_-_complete_text/comment-page-1/#comment-16318</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liers all, the most corrupt government in my lifetime. I hope the American people come to their senses before Nov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liers all, the most corrupt government in my lifetime. I hope the American people come to their senses before Nov.</p>
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