Comments on: TCS Daily – Why Israel Lost

By: Anderson

Anderson — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:23:13 +0000

I feel James Joyner should read some history books before making statements about what are the constrains of a modern democratic nation during war. Right, because I'm sure he's never done that. Got a reading list for us, Mr. Poleshek?

By: John Poleshek

John Poleshek — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:09:42 +0000

I feel James Joyner should read some history books before making statements about what are the constrains of a modern democratic nation during war.

It is true most nations in the Mideast hate Americans as they hate Israeli's but we all know it is a con the real hatred of the people of the Mideast would be better off directed at the people that prevent them from being a free and democratic nation. Does any one in the news know who that is. If Israel was defeated, destroyed and driven into the sea it would not improve the life of even one Arab.No Arab would get the right to vote from Israel,s demise.Lets stop kidding ourselves the hatred is simply a distraction from paying attention how miserable
the own lives are.

By: McGehee

McGehee — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:18:16 +0000

But Bush says Israel won … and we challenge our commander-in-chief at our peril … so if we say Israel lost, we obviously want the terrorists to win?

Anderson, seriously.

Okay, maybe since you can't "do" snark, maybe you can teach it instead.

By: McGehee

McGehee — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:17:27 +0000

I wish that all americans could go to the middle east and see how much they are hated.

Oh, I think we can find that hatred a little closer to home than you seem to think.

By: Old War Dogs

Old War Dogs — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:44:27 +0000

Why Israel Lost...

James Joyner, writing at TCS Daily: A front page story in Monday's Washington Post declared Hezbollah The Best Guerrilla Force in the World and noted that, As the declared U.N. cease-fire went into effect Monday morning, many Lebanese -- particularly...

By: Wayne

Wayne — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:19:19 +0000

Dave

I believe the hatred for U.S. is often overstated. I have found thought-out my travels including to the ME that many are friendly towards us. There are always fanatics that have great hate especially since many are taught that. A great many do bash us. However, most of the ones that bash us do so more out of frustration of looking for us to solve the world problems then any real underlying feelings. That is one of the reasons why they do not hold such much discontent for Canadians. When was the last time someone look to Canada to solve a crisis? Plus they do not get saturate with Canadian movies, T.V., products, etc.

By: Conservative Cat

Conservative Cat — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:38:58 +0000

Nasrallah Points the Way to a New Kind of Warfare... The big story today is the fact that Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah is claiming a "strategic and historic" victory in Lebanon. Having proven Hezbollah's ability to protect Lebanon from an Israeli invasion, he feels it would be a mistake......

By: dave

dave — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:11:05 +0000

I wish that all americans could go to the middle east and see how much they are hated. It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant and narrow minded most of you are. Isreal has been terrorizing lebanon for years and yet your government backs them.And do you know why? Its because they look like you and I,,white....or mostly white...wake up people,,start educating yourselves and look to other sources other then cnn or your government for the truth.....see how they have been able to subvert any foreign government they wish to and blame it on others to start a war...I am Canadian and damn proud to be able to travel the world unmolested .

By: Wayne

Wayne — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:39:14 +0000

If the MSM treated football like they treated wars they do not like, they would say that team A lost because team B scored 10 points even though the score was 52 to 10. Besides team A did not stop every run or pass and Team A did not score on every possession. Team B had some accomplishments so they won and Team A did not have a perfect game so they lost.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:30:14 +0000

“Failure to achieve one’s political objectives in a war, by definition, constitutes defeat.”
Says who? So in history when a county invaded a territory of another country to take control of it but ends up settling for 75 percent of that territory, they lost right. I would disagree. Gaining territory is one example of a political objective. There are many examples in history where the victor didn’t get 100 percent of what they wanted. It is actually the most common result.

Hezbo’s objective is the total destruction of Israel. So did they lose too? I would agree with above post that said it is to soon to know who came out on top. However if I had to choose between being an Israeli or Lebanese today I would choose Israeli.

By: DC Loser

DC Loser — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:26:41 +0000

Seems the US is the one who's having problems with perceptioin and reality. Even the Israelis know the real score. Olmert may not survive this.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:14:45 +0000

I do not expect the terms of the agreement to be upheld. That’s when Hizbollah finally learns that in the long run there is a price to valuing perception over reality.

Right after Bush learns it? LOL!!!!!!!

By: Anderson

Anderson — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:13:28 +0000

(Though I see that if JJ's undermining Bush's credibility & thus aiding the terrorists, he has a lot of company on the Right.) And JJ, when do we get your reading of Sy Hersh's latest?

By: charles austin

charles austin — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:12:24 +0000

Considering that we're probably only at the end of the first half, if not the first quarter, I think it's still far too early to definitively declare winners and losers.

I do not expect the terms of the agreement to be upheld. That's when Hizbollah finally learns that in the long run there is a price to valuing perception over reality.

By: Anderson

Anderson — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:54:11 +0000

But Bush says Israel won ... and we challenge our commander-in-chief at our peril ... so if we say Israel lost, we obviously want the terrorists to win? Is the present GWOT really the time for independent thinking, JJ? --No, seriously, good column. I particularly liked this: That the terrorists are hiding among civilians is both "unfair" militarily and a violation of the laws of war. It is, however, a reality with which states must cope. The R-word, "reality." It's amazing to me how supposedly-worth-listening-to people fume about Hezbollah's use of civilian shields, as if H. were cheating at a game of Monopoly.