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	<title>Comments on: Teaching Math: Abstract Equations Beat Reality</title>
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		<title>By: The Loudest Cricket</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/teaching_math_abstract_equations_beat_reality/comment-page-1/#comment-349842</link>
		<dc:creator>The Loudest Cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Death of the Story Problem?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I never thought&#160;that story problems should be used&#160;as a way of teaching math, but rather as a way of applying what&#160;is taught&#160;to the real world.&#160; Most of the math tests I recall had two parts, the equation solving section (2......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Death of the Story Problem?...</strong></p>
<p>I never thought that story problems should be used as a way of teaching math, but rather as a way of applying what is taught to the real world.  Most of the math tests I recall had two parts, the equation solving section (2......</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real world examples tend to work quite well when teaching children to add fractions (ex 1 &amp; 3), but are much less effective when explaining multiplication of fractions (ex 2 &amp; 4).  It does not appear from the examples given that different connectors were used to differentiate when combinations were additive or multiplicative.  It would be interesting to see if using connective symbology would alter the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real world examples tend to work quite well when teaching children to add fractions (ex 1 &amp; 3), but are much less effective when explaining multiplication of fractions (ex 2 &amp; 4).  It does not appear from the examples given that different connectors were used to differentiate when combinations were additive or multiplicative.  It would be interesting to see if using connective symbology would alter the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem many have with abstract math or anything outside of a basic or general system we typically use is their refusal to think outside the box.  Just like in the experiment, if they are given something familiar they will become fixated on what is familiar. If you don’t allow them in the box then it easier for them to look for solutions outside the box.  Of course giving them concrete examples helps. Like having a bowling ball and telling someone to draw a square on it. It helps to teach them Spherical geometry and that squares don’t have to have 90 degree angles just four equal angles.  Explain this with words at a bar and you usually get nowhere with the consensus at the end by the patrons that all squares have four 90 degrees corners.  
Also I agree as stated previously, not all abstract mathematics have solid real world examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem many have with abstract math or anything outside of a basic or general system we typically use is their refusal to think outside the box.  Just like in the experiment, if they are given something familiar they will become fixated on what is familiar. If you don&rsquo;t allow them in the box then it easier for them to look for solutions outside the box.  Of course giving them concrete examples helps. Like having a bowling ball and telling someone to draw a square on it. It helps to teach them Spherical geometry and that squares don&rsquo;t have to have 90 degree angles just four equal angles.  Explain this with words at a bar and you usually get nowhere with the consensus at the end by the patrons that all squares have four 90 degrees corners.<br />
Also I agree as stated previously, not all abstract mathematics have solid real world examples.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dutchgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting indeed, but I suspect that those using the concrete examples did worse because the examples aren&#039;t all that concrete: the water volumes are sometimes additive, sometime reflect a remainder, with no explanation of where the &#039;rest&#039; went. Real world examples can be very useful math tools if they are in fact analogous to the abstract concept. Sometimes there is no real-world example for an abstract idea, where symbols function very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting indeed, but I suspect that those using the concrete examples did worse because the examples aren't all that concrete: the water volumes are sometimes additive, sometime reflect a remainder, with no explanation of where the 'rest' went. Real world examples can be very useful math tools if they are in fact analogous to the abstract concept. Sometimes there is no real-world example for an abstract idea, where symbols function very well.</p>
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