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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/tech_workers/#comment-2572</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure I agree with you. That is where many of them belong. 

(some background)
I had my first paying geek job over 20 years ago while I was still in high school.  While I have done plenty of other things along the way, the money has always been so good "geeking" that I have never strayed from it.

When the internet boom started I billed my customers at the rate of $100/hr.  I would go into companies and do "geek magic." Many of the kids there that were making 20K a year would see how much I bill and try to jump in the biz.

Will all due respect they did not have the 15 years in it that I did. So they would bill 40/hr.  But they "faked it" at best.  Now that there is less demand, these kids are going back the regular economy and leaving the geeking to the professionals. 

Jay says many of his pals are the qualified geeks. Could be.. To me, somebody whose claim to fame is Microsoft Exchange is a "Johnny come latley."  But the value of geeking HAS been undercut by people that think working with computers is somehow romantic and are willing to do it on the cheap. (There is nothing "magic" about computers, it is boring, dull work)

So to got the the point of this long post... I don't think it is a case of "&lt;b&gt;overtrained&lt;/b&gt; people having trouble finding work."

I think it is a case of undertrained people not riding a gravy train anymore.

But that is how I see it from my chair.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure I agree with you. That is where many of them belong. </p>
<p>(some background)<br />
I had my first paying geek job over 20 years ago while I was still in high school.  While I have done plenty of other things along the way, the money has always been so good "geeking" that I have never strayed from it.</p>
<p>When the internet boom started I billed my customers at the rate of $100/hr.  I would go into companies and do "geek magic." Many of the kids there that were making 20K a year would see how much I bill and try to jump in the biz.</p>
<p>Will all due respect they did not have the 15 years in it that I did. So they would bill 40/hr.  But they "faked it" at best.  Now that there is less demand, these kids are going back the regular economy and leaving the geeking to the professionals. </p>
<p>Jay says many of his pals are the qualified geeks. Could be.. To me, somebody whose claim to fame is Microsoft Exchange is a "Johnny come latley."  But the value of geeking HAS been undercut by people that think working with computers is somehow romantic and are willing to do it on the cheap. (There is nothing "magic" about computers, it is boring, dull work)</p>
<p>So to got the the point of this long post... I don't think it is a case of "<b>overtrained</b> people having trouble finding work."</p>
<p>I think it is a case of undertrained people not riding a gravy train anymore.</p>
<p>But that is how I see it from my chair.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While my post above is longer than James' original, I think my point is being proven to be true. The first 2 comments on his board are EXACTLY what I am talking about.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While my post above is longer than James' original, I think my point is being proven to be true. The first 2 comments on his board are EXACTLY what I am talking about.</p>
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