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		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ted_stevens_convicted_on_corruption_charges/comment-page-1/#comment-519495</link>
		<dc:creator>body by ted &#124; Roam U Article</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 31 Dec, 2008.Special Offers from Spirit Air Mall - http://mall.spiritair.com/shopping/sp____.htm&#124;&#124;&#124;Ted Stevens Convicted on Corruption ChargesAlaska Senator Ted Stevens, the longest serving Republican in that body, has been convicted of seven [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ted_stevens_convicted_on_corruption_charges/comment-page-1/#comment-519488</link>
		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Mrs. Carnahan was so far out of her depth in Washington it was quite an embarrassment to the state, but she was able to reliably vote as she was told. But paybacks are a bitch as Senator Ashcroft&#039;s loss made it possible for him to become Attorney General, so remember to be careful for what you ask for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed, Charles. I was so disgusted with her I refused to vote one way or the other in &#039;02. And yes, the law of unintended consequences...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Mrs. Carnahan was so far out of her depth in Washington it was quite an embarrassment to the state, but she was able to reliably vote as she was told. But paybacks are a bitch as Senator Ashcroft's loss made it possible for him to become Attorney General, so remember to be careful for what you ask for.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed, Charles. I was so disgusted with her I refused to vote one way or the other in '02. And yes, the law of unintended consequences...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ted_stevens_convicted_on_corruption_charges/comment-page-1/#comment-519456</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Documentation, Por Favor...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope. Mis-spoke on that one, the target being Frank Murkowski. My bad. 
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Still, in what I&#039;ve found she can hardly be called a close associate with Stevens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Documentation, Por Favor...
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<p>Nope. Mis-spoke on that one, the target being Frank Murkowski. My bad.<br />
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Still, in what I've found she can hardly be called a close associate with Stevens.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Missouri is the only state to ever elect a dead man to the Senate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
we elected a dead woman to the House in HI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Missouri is the only state to ever elect a dead man to the Senate.</p></blockquote>
<p>we elected a dead woman to the House in HI.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ted_stevens_convicted_on_corruption_charges/comment-page-1/#comment-519425</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly how many votes do you really think might have been swung no matter what Governor Palin said about Senator Stevens after his conviction?

Just an aside, Mel Carnahan was losing and would have lost that election had his plane not crashed.  A tragedy for him and his family.  Disgraceful politics all around.  Mrs. Carnahan was so far out of her depth in Washington it was quite an embarrassment to the state, but she was able to reliably vote as she was told.  But paybacks are a bitch as Senator Ashcroft&#039;s loss made it possible for him to become Attorney General, so remember to be careful for what you ask for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly how many votes do you really think might have been swung no matter what Governor Palin said about Senator Stevens after his conviction?</p>
<p>Just an aside, Mel Carnahan was losing and would have lost that election had his plane not crashed.  A tragedy for him and his family.  Disgraceful politics all around.  Mrs. Carnahan was so far out of her depth in Washington it was quite an embarrassment to the state, but she was able to reliably vote as she was told.  But paybacks are a bitch as Senator Ashcroft's loss made it possible for him to become Attorney General, so remember to be careful for what you ask for.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You do seem to want to think the worst of her.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Charles and others: I think all James is trying to say, is that this is a great chance for her to burnish her &quot;anti-corruption&quot; credentials. The same ones she rightly earned by taking on the state GOP, and used to spring board her way to the governorship of Alaska (Did I just pay her a compliment? This election has me going even loopier than I normally am)

She got tossed a big fat hanging curve and instead of swinging for the fences, she bunted. That is not how you win an election, especially when you are down by 12 runs and it is late in the eighth inning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You do seem to want to think the worst of her.</p></blockquote>
<p>Charles and others: I think all James is trying to say, is that this is a great chance for her to burnish her "anti-corruption" credentials. The same ones she rightly earned by taking on the state GOP, and used to spring board her way to the governorship of Alaska (Did I just pay her a compliment? This election has me going even loopier than I normally am)</p>
<p>She got tossed a big fat hanging curve and instead of swinging for the fences, she bunted. That is not how you win an election, especially when you are down by 12 runs and it is late in the eighth inning.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ted_stevens_convicted_on_corruption_charges/comment-page-1/#comment-519396</link>
		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missouri is the only state to ever elect a dead man to the Senate. I have always been rather proud of that fact. 

(MN and Wellstone do not quite count, as the state democratic party was actually able to nominate somebody in his place before the election) 

But could Alaska actually top us by electing a convicted Felon? 

GO TED!!

It is moments like these that make me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missouri is the only state to ever elect a dead man to the Senate. I have always been rather proud of that fact. </p>
<p>(MN and Wellstone do not quite count, as the state democratic party was actually able to nominate somebody in his place before the election) </p>
<p>But could Alaska actually top us by electing a convicted Felon? </p>
<p>GO TED!!</p>
<p>It is moments like these that make me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, is it possible that Governor Palin is referring to one oil &lt;em&gt;services&lt;/em&gt; company that was bribing Senator Stevens, and not all oil companies?  And it may be worth noting that it does take two to tango.  Senator Stevens didn&#039;t become corrupt in a vacuum.  Her statement could easily be taken to mean that Senator Stevens isn&#039;t the only person to run afoul of the law when dealing with this particular oil services company.

You do seem to want to think the worst of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, is it possible that Governor Palin is referring to one oil <em>services</em> company that was bribing Senator Stevens, and not all oil companies?  And it may be worth noting that it does take two to tango.  Senator Stevens didn't become corrupt in a vacuum.  Her statement could easily be taken to mean that Senator Stevens isn't the only person to run afoul of the law when dealing with this particular oil services company.</p>
<p>You do seem to want to think the worst of her.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She was pretty well involved, I gather in blowing the whistle of the guy initially,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Documentation, Por Favor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She was pretty well involved, I gather in blowing the whistle of the guy initially,</p></blockquote>
<p>Documentation, Por Favor...</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Palin didn&#039;t blow the whistle on Stevens--she helped him get elected&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And are those two mutually exclisive, given the time frames involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Palin didn't blow the whistle on Stevens--she helped him get elected</p></blockquote>
<p>And are those two mutually exclisive, given the time frames involved?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You&#039;re harder on Palin for her &quot;tepid&quot; response than you are on Stevens for committing seven felonies. That&#039;s what makes it seem to me that your dislike of Palin has gone over the edge of rationality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah. No, not at all.  

I just take it as a given that Stevens&#039; career is finished; he&#039;s therefore just some old coot in Alaska that I feel a little sorry for because this is a big fall after being a big shot for 60 years.  

Palin, meanwhile, is my party&#039;s nominee for vice president and there&#039;s a campaign on.  I&#039;m baffled that she isn&#039;t further out front on this one given that the outcome was predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You're harder on Palin for her "tepid" response than you are on Stevens for committing seven felonies. That's what makes it seem to me that your dislike of Palin has gone over the edge of rationality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah. No, not at all.  </p>
<p>I just take it as a given that Stevens' career is finished; he's therefore just some old coot in Alaska that I feel a little sorry for because this is a big fall after being a big shot for 60 years.  </p>
<p>Palin, meanwhile, is my party's nominee for vice president and there's a campaign on.  I'm baffled that she isn't further out front on this one given that the outcome was predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Knapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Knapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead,

Palin didn&#039;t blow the whistle on Stevens--she helped him get elected!  And he, in turn, campaigned hard for her for the governor&#039;s seat.  She&#039;s in a &quot;difficult position&quot; because she&#039;s been tied to him for her state-level career.

But that&#039;s easily fixed by calling for her to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead,</p>
<p>Palin didn't blow the whistle on Stevens--she helped him get elected!  And he, in turn, campaigned hard for her for the governor's seat.  She's in a "difficult position" because she's been tied to him for her state-level career.</p>
<p>But that's easily fixed by calling for her to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Governor Palin, are you going to vote for Senator Stevens?&quot;

Or is that a tricky gotcha question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Governor Palin, are you going to vote for Senator Stevens?"</p>
<p>Or is that a tricky gotcha question?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s some under-estimation of the balance act palin had to play here. She was pretty well involved, I gather in blowing the whistle of the guy initially, and there&#039;s still a large split in the State level GOP over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there's some under-estimation of the balance act palin had to play here. She was pretty well involved, I gather in blowing the whistle of the guy initially, and there's still a large split in the State level GOP over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mithras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mithras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still, the man has just been convicted of seven felonies and she’s blaming the oil companies?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She winked when she said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still, the man has just been convicted of seven felonies and she&rsquo;s blaming the oil companies?!</p></blockquote>
<p>She winked when she said it.</p>
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