Comments on: Tennessee ID’s Beer Buyers Regardless of Age

By: Electric Venom » Blog Archive » Nine Nibbles

Electric Venom » Blog Archive » Nine Nibbles — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:07:52 +0000

[...] 2. No matter how old you are, you’ll feel young in Tennessee. [...]

By: Robert D. Young

Robert D. Young — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:16:25 +0000

Tennessee also instated a substantial cigarette tax on the same day and I agree it is the nanny-state inching its way into our lives and pockets. The smokers have been demonized for so long it was easy to slip through a tax on them. But they are coming for us all, drinkers, the obese, anyone they can point a finger at and claim are not paying their fair share.

By: The Unabrewer

The Unabrewer — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 02:02:22 +0000

I have a foot in both the "it's a sacrifice of freedom" camp and the "it's ineffective because it doesn't apply to bars or bourbon" camp. Two reasons to dislike legislation--it's double the fun!

By: Diane C. Russell

Diane C. Russell — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:34:55 +0000

Is it just nanny statism--or is it the beginning of police statism?

Once the serfs accept this, how long will it be until they are told to produce papers for other purchases. And eventually for all purchases.

Within my lifetime, Americans thought it was terrible that Hitler and Stalin had police checking on everyone. Now they seem to think it is a good idea. Why are we so willing to sacrifice our freedoms?

By: Uncle Pinky

Uncle Pinky — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 00:18:12 +0000

It's the sort of "you don't have to interpret it, you just have to mindlessly comply with it" that bureaucrats love...

Posted by M. Murcek

Ding Ding Ding!

It is a test case to see how far bureaucratic authority can impinge on everyday citizens without citizen complaint. Limit and boundary testing, envelope nudging and passive-aggressive cussedness.

As with taxation, extracting the maximum amount of milk with the minimum amount of moo is the goal. Everytime I argued that nanny-statism was the thin edge of the wedge my arguments were dismissed as alarmist. Try smoking or cooking with trans-fats in New York and then tell me that slippery slope reasoning is unfounded.

By: just me

just me — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:41:05 +0000

While I don't think there is anything specifically evil about this kind of law, it is one that doesn't make much sense to me.

I just don't see how it is going to much as far as it what it says the goal of the law is-which is to curb underage drinking. Shoot the majority of underage purchases when I was a teenager were done by getting legally aged siblings/friends/aquaintences to purchase the alcohol-and of course the fake ID-I don't see this law doing much to stop or prevent either.

By: M. Murcek

M. Murcek — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:54:41 +0000

It's the sort of "you don't have to interpret it, you just have to mindlessly comply with it" that bureaucrats love...

By: G.A.Phillips

G.A.Phillips — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:22:23 +0000

Dang, what about the right of an illegal alien who don't got no I.D. and wants to get a nice cold six-pack after a hard day of picking lettuce?

By: polystigma

polystigma — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:16:38 +0000

Strange.
What about those who may not have valid ID.
Is the state going to provide free ID's to those who cannot afford them?
Just doesnt seem fair, does it?
Anyone remember those voter ID laws in some states that got shot down so quickly?
Granted this is for proof of age, and not identity, but I dont see the difference.
And what exactly is accepted as valid ID? Only state issued cards?

By: R. Alex

R. Alex — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:10:03 +0000

Once you start carding everybody, you can start deciding who can and cannot buy alcohol at any age. There's a decent chance in the future that an inability to buy alcohol will be part of sentencing for people convicted of drunk driving and public intoxication. This sort of thing won't do it, of course (I have no idea why they make the exceptions that they do), but it's a step in that direction.

By: Sean Hackbarth

Sean Hackbarth — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:06:09 +0000

A few years ago the biggest grocery chain in Southeast Wisconsin imposed a similar policy. Everyone not matter the age would be carded when buying beer and alcohol. The silliness of it ticked me off, and I actually avoided buying adult beverages from them. That was until I got lazy and traded convenience for my opposition. The cost to show my ID is negligible since it's always with me. Sometimes life is too short to gripe about everything.