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		<title>By: Nightly Ramble: One lap around &#124; BitsBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/that_is_a_tasty_burger/comment-page-1/#comment-392744</link>
		<dc:creator>Nightly Ramble: One lap around &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of Hamburgers, food police, and such. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fiveguys.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Five Guys&lt;/a&gt; here in State College, PA. Great burgers. Sheetz (located throughout PA and parts of WV) also features pretty decent burgers but Five Guys is at the top of my list right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have <a href="http://www.fiveguys.com/" rel="nofollow">Five Guys</a> here in State College, PA. Great burgers. Sheetz (located throughout PA and parts of WV) also features pretty decent burgers but Five Guys is at the top of my list right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out here in the West, Hardee&#039;s goes by the handle of Carl&#039;s Junior.  And I&#039;ll take one of their burgers over a McDonald&#039;s any day.  Same with Jack in the Box and Burger King...anything over McDonald&#039;s.  Now that Boyo&#039;s (12 year old son) taste buds are developing beyond the scope of chicken nuggets, he&#039;s starting to ask for other fast food as well.  

Although...I&#039;ll add my preference of Culver&#039;s.  Their Butter Burgers are the BEST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out here in the West, Hardee's goes by the handle of Carl's Junior.  And I'll take one of their burgers over a McDonald's any day.  Same with Jack in the Box and Burger King...anything over McDonald's.  Now that Boyo's (12 year old son) taste buds are developing beyond the scope of chicken nuggets, he's starting to ask for other fast food as well.  </p>
<p>Although...I'll add my preference of Culver's.  Their Butter Burgers are the BEST.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a big difference between telling people whats bad for them, and forcing them to do what you want them to, ones called sharing wisdom ones called subversion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Left and Right are equally guilty of not only telling people whats bad for them but also trying to force them to do what they want them to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is a big difference between telling people whats bad for them, and forcing them to do what you want them to, ones called sharing wisdom ones called subversion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Left and Right are equally guilty of not only telling people whats bad for them but also trying to force them to do what they want them to...</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you haven&#039;t had kids yet don&#039;t knock McDs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amen, brother.  It may not be the height of culinary cuisine, but Mickey D&#039;s does a good job keeping the kids happy.  And those salads are good for me when I don&#039;t feel like loading up on grease or carbs.  And their coffee has improved significantly so much that I much prefer their $1 cup of joe over the drip at Starbucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you haven't had kids yet don't knock McDs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Amen, brother.  It may not be the height of culinary cuisine, but Mickey D's does a good job keeping the kids happy.  And those salads are good for me when I don't feel like loading up on grease or carbs.  And their coffee has improved significantly so much that I much prefer their $1 cup of joe over the drip at Starbucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done plenty of Hardee&#039;s, In n Out and lots of the rest but I&#039;d be hard pressed to say there is a better burger chain than Five Guys Burger in DC area.  They started just as company owned, now have switched to franchising so hard to know if they keep their quality up.  There&#039;s one in the US Air terminal at National Airport, so if you&#039;re passing thru there it is worth checking out.  Just get lots of napkins, order tons of toppings,  and as far as fries go only order 1 &quot;small&quot; fry for each 2 people.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I still know the closest In n Out to the airports in SFO, LAX, LAS, SAN and now PHX, but Five Guys is finally an east coast answer.

If you haven&#039;t had kids yet don&#039;t knock McDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've done plenty of Hardee's, In n Out and lots of the rest but I'd be hard pressed to say there is a better burger chain than Five Guys Burger in DC area.  They started just as company owned, now have switched to franchising so hard to know if they keep their quality up.  There's one in the US Air terminal at National Airport, so if you're passing thru there it is worth checking out.  Just get lots of napkins, order tons of toppings,  and as far as fries go only order 1 "small" fry for each 2 people.  Don't get me wrong, I still know the closest In n Out to the airports in SFO, LAX, LAS, SAN and now PHX, but Five Guys is finally an east coast answer.</p>
<p>If you haven't had kids yet don't knock McDs.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I assume you are as equally disturbed by those on the opposite side of the political spectrum who attack our personal habits, lifestyles, etc.?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is a big difference between telling people whats bad for them, and forcing them to do what you want them to, ones called sharing wisdom ones called subversion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I assume you are as equally disturbed by those on the opposite side of the political spectrum who attack our personal habits, lifestyles, etc.?</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a big difference between telling people whats bad for them, and forcing them to do what you want them to, ones called sharing wisdom ones called subversion.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Note the things that such people attack; Our food, our transportation, our personal habits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I assume you are as equally disturbed by those on the opposite side of the political spectrum who attack our personal habits, lifestyles, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Note the things that such people attack; Our food, our transportation, our personal habits.</p></blockquote>
<p>I assume you are as equally disturbed by those on the opposite side of the political spectrum who attack our personal habits, lifestyles, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You misunderstand my response. I&#039;m not suggesting you&#039;re wrong. But What I am suggesting is hw they &lt;strong&gt;got&lt;/strong&gt; that way.

Oh, by the way, another interesting factor, here, is how the food police seem to be so fixated on MD and BK, and leave these others alone, despite MD having modified their way of doing things to satisfy the food police, already. I wonder if the driver there is that they know they&#039;ll get the desired response from MD, and likely not from most of these others.

Rather reminds me of the old joke about PETA going after rich women in fur, rather then bikers in leather, based on the idea that PETA figures they&#039;re more likely to survive the fur encounter.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, this is all simply about a blogger who found a tasty burger...must everything be reduced to snarky ideology?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mostly because the kind of ideology I&#039;m railing against here has become so pervasive. Note the things that such people attack; Our food, our transportation, our personal habits. Attach guilt to them and they have perhaps more control over we peasants than with any other scenario.
 
Personally, best Burger I ever had came from a little truckstop outside Watertown, NY, around Tinker Tavern, or so as I recall. The place used to get all kinds of business from folks traveling up I-81 on vacation... This would be just after 81 was completed. It became kind of a milestone on the trip into the north country. Alas, it&#039;s gone, now. Place closed, and the building burned down a few years later. I think the sign is still up out front of where it used to be, or it was a few years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.</p></blockquote>
<p>You misunderstand my response. I'm not suggesting you're wrong. But What I am suggesting is hw they <strong>got</strong> that way.</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, another interesting factor, here, is how the food police seem to be so fixated on MD and BK, and leave these others alone, despite MD having modified their way of doing things to satisfy the food police, already. I wonder if the driver there is that they know they'll get the desired response from MD, and likely not from most of these others.</p>
<p>Rather reminds me of the old joke about PETA going after rich women in fur, rather then bikers in leather, based on the idea that PETA figures they're more likely to survive the fur encounter.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, this is all simply about a blogger who found a tasty burger...must everything be reduced to snarky ideology?</p></blockquote>
<p>Mostly because the kind of ideology I'm railing against here has become so pervasive. Note the things that such people attack; Our food, our transportation, our personal habits. Attach guilt to them and they have perhaps more control over we peasants than with any other scenario.</p>
<p>Personally, best Burger I ever had came from a little truckstop outside Watertown, NY, around Tinker Tavern, or so as I recall. The place used to get all kinds of business from folks traveling up I-81 on vacation... This would be just after 81 was completed. It became kind of a milestone on the trip into the north country. Alas, it's gone, now. Place closed, and the building burned down a few years later. I think the sign is still up out front of where it used to be, or it was a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, this is all simply about a blogger who found a tasty burger...must everything be reduced to snarky ideology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, this is all simply about a blogger who found a tasty burger...must everything be reduced to snarky ideology?</p>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s never stopped him from making the same kind of contradictory points before...why should it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's never stopped him from making the same kind of contradictory points before...why should it now...</p>
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		<title>By: TJIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bithead you said,  &lt;blockquote&gt; Yep.
And WHY is it superior?
One major factor is the constrols placed on the product.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Hardees burgers are superior because they are charbroiled to order.  McDonald&#039;s burgers are griddle cooked ahead of time and held in a steam table.

McDonald&#039;s cooking practices (griddle cook / pre make food / hold food in heat or steam table)  were in place decades before either the french fry lawsuits or fast food nation came on the scene.  

In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bithead you said,<br />
<blockquote> Yep.<br />
And WHY is it superior?<br />
One major factor is the constrols placed on the product.</p></blockquote>
<p>  Hardees burgers are superior because they are charbroiled to order.  McDonald's burgers are griddle cooked ahead of time and held in a steam table.</p>
<p>McDonald's cooking practices (griddle cook / pre make food / hold food in heat or steam table)  were in place decades before either the french fry lawsuits or fast food nation came on the scene.  </p>
<p>In other words the facts on the ground flatly contradict the point you are trying to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mathew posted about the superior quality of the hardees burger&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep.
And WHY is it superior?
One major factor is the constrols placed on the product.


&lt;blockquote&gt;
McDonald&#039;s started offering salads and other healthy choices to appeal to moms, not wives and girlfriends&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So they say. It&#039;[s called &#039;putting a positive spin on things when you ahve no choice in the matter. 

Ever heard of &quot;Super size me&#039;?
Of course the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=macdonalds+sued+fat&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;long trail of lawsuits...&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;m sure, had no effect on their product lines and quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mathew posted about the superior quality of the hardees burger</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep.<br />
And WHY is it superior?<br />
One major factor is the constrols placed on the product.</p>
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McDonald's started offering salads and other healthy choices to appeal to moms, not wives and girlfriends</p></blockquote>
<p>So they say. It'[s called 'putting a positive spin on things when you ahve no choice in the matter. </p>
<p>Ever heard of "Super size me'?<br />
Of course the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=macdonalds+sued+fat&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">long trail of lawsuits...</a> I'm sure, had no effect on their product lines and quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who doesn&#039;t/didn&#039;t make a better burger than McDonald&#039;s*?

Out west, In and Out and Fatburger are much better for a traditional burger and Astro makes good burgers for both the traditional burger lover and the more health concerned (sub bison, ostrich, or gardenburger on any burger).

* before or after the relatively recent menu changes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who doesn't/didn't make a better burger than McDonald's*?</p>
<p>Out west, In and Out and Fatburger are much better for a traditional burger and Astro makes good burgers for both the traditional burger lover and the more health concerned (sub bison, ostrich, or gardenburger on any burger).</p>
<p>* before or after the relatively recent menu changes</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McDonald&#039;s started offering salads and other healthy choices to appeal to moms, not wives and girlfriends.  McD&#039;s target demographic is kids and they found that giving mom something to select besides a Big Mac would aid in their capitulation when the kiddies were yearning for a Happy Meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McDonald's started offering salads and other healthy choices to appeal to moms, not wives and girlfriends.  McD's target demographic is kids and they found that giving mom something to select besides a Big Mac would aid in their capitulation when the kiddies were yearning for a Happy Meal.</p>
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