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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_angry_left/comment-page-1/#comment-511464</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;John McCain was still in a prison cell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

McCain was a POW? Really? Damm. You guys need to start talking about this. Really. Get the word out. Maybe you can even have a song about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>John McCain was still in a prison cell.</p></blockquote>
<p>McCain was a POW? Really? Damm. You guys need to start talking about this. Really. Get the word out. Maybe you can even have a song about it...</p>
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		<title>By: Beldar</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_angry_left/comment-page-1/#comment-511387</link>
		<dc:creator>Beldar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Yglesias may be too young to remember, or not well-educated enough to know, that the Angry Left -- specifically and prominently including John F. Kerry, still an officer in the U.S. Navy Reserve at the time -- were actively meeting with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese in Paris &lt;i&gt;while John McCain was still in a prison cell&lt;/i&gt;. Back home, they were arguing for an unconditional American pull-out &#151; exactly the result being called for by the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese.

And the Angry Left has still not repudiated its members who did that. Jane Fonda eventually apologized. John Kerry never did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Yglesias may be too young to remember, or not well-educated enough to know, that the Angry Left -- specifically and prominently including John F. Kerry, still an officer in the U.S. Navy Reserve at the time -- were actively meeting with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese in Paris <i>while John McCain was still in a prison cell</i>. Back home, they were arguing for an unconditional American pull-out &#8212; exactly the result being called for by the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese.</p>
<p>And the Angry Left has still not repudiated its members who did that. Jane Fonda eventually apologized. John Kerry never did.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_angry_left/comment-page-1/#comment-511313</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lunacy, Look, we know you don&#039;t want to talk about the economy. We know you don&#039;t want to talk about the Palin fiasco. 

But please, let&#039;s get into the year 2008. And if you want to talk about F___ups related to Katrina, let us remember what John McCain was doing as Katrina tore into New Orleans (partying with Bush) and how long it took Bush to come out of his stupor as Americans were dying on the streets  of NO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lunacy, Look, we know you don't want to talk about the economy. We know you don't want to talk about the Palin fiasco. </p>
<p>But please, let's get into the year 2008. And if you want to talk about F___ups related to Katrina, let us remember what John McCain was doing as Katrina tore into New Orleans (partying with Bush) and how long it took Bush to come out of his stupor as Americans were dying on the streets  of NO...</p>
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		<title>By: lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Comparing Katrina, one of the worst hurricanes on record to Gusta...&quot;

All the more reason Blanco and Nagin should tried to pull off a smooth evacuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Comparing Katrina, one of the worst hurricanes on record to Gusta..."</p>
<p>All the more reason Blanco and Nagin should tried to pull off a smooth evacuation.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is nobody else as excited as me that our president delivered a clever, coherent sentence?! Anybody? Screw the content, it sounded good at least.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

ya it was nice but he should have used &quot;punk ass&quot; instead of &quot;angry&quot; and maybe there would not be all this confusion about his intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is nobody else as excited as me that our president delivered a clever, coherent sentence?! Anybody? Screw the content, it sounded good at least.</p></blockquote>
<p>ya it was nice but he should have used "punk ass" instead of "angry" and maybe there would not be all this confusion about his intent.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. 

Thank you for proving my point about the GOP being desperate to talk about anything but the economy.

Bon Nuit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS. </p>
<p>Thank you for proving my point about the GOP being desperate to talk about anything but the economy.</p>
<p>Bon Nuit!</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_angry_left/comment-page-1/#comment-511287</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>III,

Not taking anything away from Jindal, who seems like a bright guy to me, but comparing Katrina, one of the worst hurricanes on record to Gustav, which was rather quickly downgraded to a tropical storm is just the kind of stupidity we have come to expect from you. Trying to exploit hurricane victims for political purposes is pretty sad too.

Really dude, try not to speak...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>III,</p>
<p>Not taking anything away from Jindal, who seems like a bright guy to me, but comparing Katrina, one of the worst hurricanes on record to Gustav, which was rather quickly downgraded to a tropical storm is just the kind of stupidity we have come to expect from you. Trying to exploit hurricane victims for political purposes is pretty sad too.</p>
<p>Really dude, try not to speak...</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin, this is way off topic.  I just wondered if you noticed any difference between the reaction to Hurricane Gustav  and Hurricane Katerina?  Did you watch the Governor of the State of Louisiana appear of TV?  That was something the democratic governor did not do for Katerina.  I&#039;ll make it simple for you.  Democrat leadership equals a disaster.  Republican leadership equals a smooth evacuation.  You can lie about facts but you cannot lie about outcome.  Bon Chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin, this is way off topic.  I just wondered if you noticed any difference between the reaction to Hurricane Gustav  and Hurricane Katerina?  Did you watch the Governor of the State of Louisiana appear of TV?  That was something the democratic governor did not do for Katerina.  I'll make it simple for you.  Democrat leadership equals a disaster.  Republican leadership equals a smooth evacuation.  You can lie about facts but you cannot lie about outcome.  Bon Chance.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_angry_left/comment-page-1/#comment-511280</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;hate and vitriol coming from the left.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I saw a woman who looked to be about 65 years old &amp; 95 pounds being manhandled by 6 cops. Is she one of the &quot;terrorists&quot; you are referring to?

When it comes to hate and vitriol, it sounds like you are projecting.

But then I can understand why the GOP is desperate to talk about anything, and I mean anything, except the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hate and vitriol coming from the left.</p></blockquote>
<p>I saw a woman who looked to be about 65 years old &amp; 95 pounds being manhandled by 6 cops. Is she one of the "terrorists" you are referring to?</p>
<p>When it comes to hate and vitriol, it sounds like you are projecting.</p>
<p>But then I can understand why the GOP is desperate to talk about anything, and I mean anything, except the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the assaults and attempted violence we have been seeing by these terrorists outside the convention this week, I think Bush&#039;s comments were quite appropriate. Some of these lefties are nuts. I don&#039;t see Mr. Bush comparing the them to the viet cong, but I am glad some Republicans are having the gumption to talk about the hate and vitriol coming from the left. Time for Obama and Biden to condemn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the assaults and attempted violence we have been seeing by these terrorists outside the convention this week, I think Bush's comments were quite appropriate. Some of these lefties are nuts. I don't see Mr. Bush comparing the them to the viet cong, but I am glad some Republicans are having the gumption to talk about the hate and vitriol coming from the left. Time for Obama and Biden to condemn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is nobody else as excited as me that our president delivered a clever, coherent sentence?!  Anybody?  Screw the content, it &lt;em&gt;sounded&lt;/em&gt; good at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is nobody else as excited as me that our president delivered a clever, coherent sentence?!  Anybody?  Screw the content, it <em>sounded</em> good at least.</p>
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		<title>By: RW Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t intepret it that way, but I can understand how Matthew could. Matthew seems to be perpetually angry about something, real or imagined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn't intepret it that way, but I can understand how Matthew could. Matthew seems to be perpetually angry about something, real or imagined.</p>
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		<title>By: DMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, I don&#039;t really interpret Bush&#039;s comments to suggest that those in the &quot;angry Left&quot; are equivalent to McCain&#039;s torturers.  Though I do see in his comments something that has been typical of him for the entirety of his Administration and is something the country is sick and tired of.  By referring to those who disagree with him as the &quot;angry Left&quot;, he is attempting to disparage anyone who opposes his world view as angry partisans.  According to Bush&#039;s world view of course those on the &quot;angry Left&quot; don&#039;t want whats best for the country, only John McCain does.  I think the country is sick and tired of this shit from Bush&#039;s GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, I don't really interpret Bush's comments to suggest that those in the "angry Left" are equivalent to McCain's torturers.  Though I do see in his comments something that has been typical of him for the entirety of his Administration and is something the country is sick and tired of.  By referring to those who disagree with him as the "angry Left", he is attempting to disparage anyone who opposes his world view as angry partisans.  According to Bush's world view of course those on the "angry Left" don't want whats best for the country, only John McCain does.  I think the country is sick and tired of this shit from Bush's GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Frees up more time to do useful work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, by all means get to it. I am sure there are a lot of folks backing up at the drive thru window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Frees up more time to do useful work.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, by all means get to it. I am sure there are a lot of folks backing up at the drive thru window.</p>
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		<title>By: SDM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Funny how young Mr. Yglesias is the only person equating American liberals with the angry Left&lt;/I&gt;

This raises the question of what Bush means by &quot;the angry left.&quot; If he means Noam Chomsky and three UC-Santa Cruz kids who threw a rock through a Starbucks window, then it&#039;s a non sequitur, as these people have no relevance in the political process and no impact on John McCain&#039;s life or his run for the presidency. one wonders why he&#039;d bring it up at all.

If he means &quot;people who are arguing against McCain&#039;s election as president,&quot; which is a more appropriate topic of conversation at a political convention, then yes, it is offensive, because what he&#039;s doing is equating the motives of McCain&#039;s political opponents with the motives of his torturers, that is to say, hoping to break McCain&#039;s resolve because they hope to undermine America.

That&#039;s why he uses phrases like &quot;the angry left&quot; - so that anyone who hears it can apply their own meaning. Much of his audience will intepret it as the latter - i.e., to say that Obama supporters are the equivalent of torturers, hoping to keep McCain from doing right for his country. If that interpretation is challenged, just jump to the former - &quot;oh no! i&#039;m just talking about one particular former assistant professor of sociology. why are you so quick to say that YOU&#039;RE the angry left?&quot; 

clever trick, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Funny how young Mr. Yglesias is the only person equating American liberals with the angry Left</i></p>
<p>This raises the question of what Bush means by "the angry left." If he means Noam Chomsky and three UC-Santa Cruz kids who threw a rock through a Starbucks window, then it's a non sequitur, as these people have no relevance in the political process and no impact on John McCain's life or his run for the presidency. one wonders why he'd bring it up at all.</p>
<p>If he means "people who are arguing against McCain's election as president," which is a more appropriate topic of conversation at a political convention, then yes, it is offensive, because what he's doing is equating the motives of McCain's political opponents with the motives of his torturers, that is to say, hoping to break McCain's resolve because they hope to undermine America.</p>
<p>That's why he uses phrases like "the angry left" - so that anyone who hears it can apply their own meaning. Much of his audience will intepret it as the latter - i.e., to say that Obama supporters are the equivalent of torturers, hoping to keep McCain from doing right for his country. If that interpretation is challenged, just jump to the former - "oh no! i'm just talking about one particular former assistant professor of sociology. why are you so quick to say that YOU'RE the angry left?" </p>
<p>clever trick, really.</p>
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