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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1061595</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this is what separates you from most people. You believe that you always have all the facts where as most people KNOW they don&#039;t always have all the facts (thus a lot of grey). This is why you can veer off into crazy land while in the middle of what was an intelligent post..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this is what separates you from most people. You believe that you always have all the facts where as most people KNOW they don't always have all the facts (thus a lot of grey). This is why you can veer off into crazy land while in the middle of what was an intelligent post..</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Gore</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059943</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that.  The pieces in my family&#039;s set back in the early 70&#039;s (or thereabouts) were boring and opaque.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that.  The pieces in my family's set back in the early 70's (or thereabouts) were boring and opaque.</p>
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		<title>By: Deuce Geary</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059927</link>
		<dc:creator>Deuce Geary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one impressed by James&#039; masterful  and subtle choice of illustration for this post?  Or maybe I&#039;m just the only one commenting who plays &lt;em&gt;Sorry!&lt;/em&gt; with his 7-year-old?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one impressed by James' masterful  and subtle choice of illustration for this post?  Or maybe I'm just the only one commenting who plays <em>Sorry!</em> with his 7-year-old?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059890</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s subjective... that&#039;;s the very point of the thing, man... Some things just require more study than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it's subjective... that';s the very point of the thing, man... Some things just require more study than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059782</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you think you&#039;re seeing grey what you&#039;re really seeing is black and white spots, which are very small, and you need to get closer to your subject to know it&#039;s true nature.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I propose that you are correct. The problem though is that due to our current state of existence facts can be subjective. Our inability to confirm facts beyond a doubt results in a lot of grey in our life :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you think you're seeing grey what you're really seeing is black and white spots, which are very small, and you need to get closer to your subject to know it's true nature.</p></blockquote>
<p>I propose that you are correct. The problem though is that due to our current state of existence facts can be subjective. Our inability to confirm facts beyond a doubt results in a lot of grey in our life :P</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059643</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The problem with his behavior was not that it wasn&#039;t &quot;charitable&quot;. The problem was that it was not decent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean he actually had the audacity to return in kind what he got from his once anonymous attacker? 

(Gasp!) Oh, dear. can&#039;t have that, particularly since he&#039;s not a leftist. Excuse me Tano... but you show all the signs of being a team player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The problem with his behavior was not that it wasn't "charitable". The problem was that it was not decent.</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean he actually had the audacity to return in kind what he got from his once anonymous attacker? </p>
<p>(Gasp!) Oh, dear. can't have that, particularly since he's not a leftist. Excuse me Tano... but you show all the signs of being a team player.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059635</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whelan still comes off as an arrogant SOB.
The problem with his behavior was not that it wasn&#039;t &quot;charitable&quot;. The problem was that it was not decent.

Charity is behavior which one has no compulsion to perform - one acts charitably only because one wants to, there is no obligation.

Decency however, is an expectation that we have regarding the behavior of all responsible adults. There is an obligation to decency in a civilized society - maybe not a legal obligation, but certainly an ethical one.

Whelan&#039;s behavior violated norms of decency, and that is what his apology should have owned up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whelan still comes off as an arrogant SOB.<br />
The problem with his behavior was not that it wasn't "charitable". The problem was that it was not decent.</p>
<p>Charity is behavior which one has no compulsion to perform - one acts charitably only because one wants to, there is no obligation.</p>
<p>Decency however, is an expectation that we have regarding the behavior of all responsible adults. There is an obligation to decency in a civilized society - maybe not a legal obligation, but certainly an ethical one.</p>
<p>Whelan's behavior violated norms of decency, and that is what his apology should have owned up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no such thing, my freind, as &#039;shades of grey&quot;... no &#039;grey areas&#039;. There is only black and white. If you think you&#039;re seeing grey what you&#039;re really seeing is black and white spots, which are very small, and you need to get closer to your subject to know it&#039;s true nature. &#039;Grey areas&#039; is the lazy man&#039;s excuse. General statements like yours don&#039;t require or withstand close examination.
 
So, into the small spots. In the situation you&#039;re describing, fine.

But how does that compare, to the situation here? Are you suggesting this is one such time where Blevans was hiding from gangsters? That the right is a bunch of gangsters, and that Whalen writes for them?

You get the pont, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no such thing, my freind, as 'shades of grey"... no 'grey areas'. There is only black and white. If you think you're seeing grey what you're really seeing is black and white spots, which are very small, and you need to get closer to your subject to know it's true nature. 'Grey areas' is the lazy man's excuse. General statements like yours don't require or withstand close examination.</p>
<p>So, into the small spots. In the situation you're describing, fine.</p>
<p>But how does that compare, to the situation here? Are you suggesting this is one such time where Blevans was hiding from gangsters? That the right is a bunch of gangsters, and that Whalen writes for them?</p>
<p>You get the pont, I'm sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Furhead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059607</link>
		<dc:creator>Furhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot feel sympathy for anonymous bloggers who are exposed. A man should stand behind his words with courage and conviction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For example, when ratting out a gangster.

Not everything is black and white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot feel sympathy for anonymous bloggers who are exposed. A man should stand behind his words with courage and conviction.</p></blockquote>
<p>For example, when ratting out a gangster.</p>
<p>Not everything is black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Gore</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059595</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Dunphy, pseudonymous writer for the National Review, has &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTgxMjcxNzA2MTRiMWNkZjcxZmJlZmJkOThlNTYzNWY=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a post&lt;/a&gt; up at The Corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Dunphy, pseudonymous writer for the National Review, has <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTgxMjcxNzA2MTRiMWNkZjcxZmJlZmJkOThlNTYzNWY=" rel="nofollow">a post</a> up at The Corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius-Whelan-Gate Continues: Whelan Apologizes and Publius accepts and moves on&#8230; &#171; Political Byline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius-Whelan-Gate Continues: Whelan Apologizes and Publius accepts and moves on&#8230; &#171; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal, Winds of Change.NET, Balloon Juice, Le·gal In·sur·rec· tion, Washington Monthly, Outside The Beltway, The Daily Dish, Macsmind, Lean Left, Bloggasm, The American Scene, Southern Appeal, And So it Goes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Liberal, Winds of Change.NET, Balloon Juice, Le·gal In·sur·rec· tion, Washington Monthly, Outside The Beltway, The Daily Dish, Macsmind, Lean Left, Bloggasm, The American Scene, Southern Appeal, And So it Goes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janis Gore</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059546</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Tent Democrat wrote an interesting note at Anonymous Liberal&#039;s site:&lt;blockquote&gt;It is certainly to Ed&#039;s credit (strangely enough I am friendly with him despite having had raging arguments with him on and offline. This action was clearly out of character for him imo) that he apologized.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Tent Democrat wrote an interesting note at Anonymous Liberal's site:<br />
<blockquote>It is certainly to Ed's credit (strangely enough I am friendly with him despite having had raging arguments with him on and offline. This action was clearly out of character for him imo) that he apologized.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059463</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot feel sympathy for anonymous bloggers who are exposed.  A man should stand behind his words with courage and conviction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot feel sympathy for anonymous bloggers who are exposed.  A man should stand behind his words with courage and conviction.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059440</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Whelan. That was a decent thing to do, when you consider that his original motive for revealing the identity amounted to feeling spiteful in a war of words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Whelan. That was a decent thing to do, when you consider that his original motive for revealing the identity amounted to feeling spiteful in a war of words.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Florack</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_blogger_and_the_damage_done/comment-page-1/#comment-1059433</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Florack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disgusted.  It&#039;s my considered opinion he was not in the wrong and had nothing to apologize for, and indeed treated &quot;Publius&quot; far too gently, if anything. But he&#039;s now given the left what they wanted;  he&#039;s sounded full retreat.  

The only lesson being taught here in the end, is that if a liberal screams loud enough, everyone else falls over, including people who should have far more courage. Like, we didn&#039;t know that already, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm disgusted.  It's my considered opinion he was not in the wrong and had nothing to apologize for, and indeed treated "Publius" far too gently, if anything. But he's now given the left what they wanted;  he's sounded full retreat.  </p>
<p>The only lesson being taught here in the end, is that if a liberal screams loud enough, everyone else falls over, including people who should have far more courage. Like, we didn't know that already, right?</p>
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