Comments on: The Boeing 787 Dreamliner & Flappy Wings Unveiled http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/ Online Journal of Politics and Foreign Affairs Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:17:47 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: M1EK http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136097 M1EK Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:49:05 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136097 Our airlines prefer the 787 because our airport policy is seriously broken - we lack supply of gates and takeoff times, yet we drastically penalize airlines for running bigger planes to make more efficient use of those scarce resources. Our airlines prefer the 787 because our airport policy is seriously broken - we lack supply of gates and takeoff times, yet we drastically penalize airlines for running bigger planes to make more efficient use of those scarce resources.

]]> By: brainy435 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136096 brainy435 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:48:38 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136096 True, DC. Even WWI era planes used composites and had similar delamination failures. My point is that it is a new application and may require new tests and maintenance proceedures. Just wondering how throughly those will be tackled BEFORE accidents happen. True, DC. Even WWI era planes used composites and had similar delamination failures. My point is that it is a new application and may require new tests and maintenance proceedures. Just wondering how throughly those will be tackled BEFORE accidents happen.

]]> By: DC Loser http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136090 DC Loser Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:34:53 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136090 Composite aircraft components are nothing new. Many parts now are made of carbon composites versus the traditional aluminum, such as the tail and other parts of the wing. Composite aircraft components are nothing new. Many parts now are made of carbon composites versus the traditional aluminum, such as the tail and other parts of the wing.

]]> By: brainy435 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136054 brainy435 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:16:06 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136054 Examples here: http://www.amfanatl.org/Pages/11_Safety&Standards/ASRS_Alerts/Acft_Delamination_Incidents.pdf http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/august_2005/boeing_777_21h__a6_emf.cfm Fortunately, I guess they have already addressed the problem: "Boeing has already experienced some mild turbulence on the 787 program. Some of the carbon-fiber test fuselage sections showed various forms of delamination and had to be discarded. But instead of covering up the problem, Boeing execs acknowledged it when asked by a reporter." http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/oct2006/db20061009_797593.htm Examples here:

http://www.amfanatl.org/Pages/11_Safety&Standards/ASRS_Alerts/Acft_Delamination_Incidents.pdf

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/august_2005/boeing_777_21h__a6_emf.cfm

Fortunately, I guess they have already addressed the problem:
"Boeing has already experienced some mild turbulence on the 787 program. Some of the carbon-fiber test fuselage sections showed various forms of delamination and had to be discarded. But instead of covering up the problem, Boeing execs acknowledged it when asked by a reporter."
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/oct2006/db20061009_797593.htm

]]> By: brainy435 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136050 brainy435 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:02:53 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136050 Not that I doubt Boeing, but I remember a few years ago when there were serious failures of composite aircraft parts due to delamination. I haven't read anything since indicationg that this problem has been solved. Maybe when the aircraft is officially unveiled we'll see some articles about it? Not that I doubt Boeing, but I remember a few years ago when there were serious failures of composite aircraft parts due to delamination. I haven't read anything since indicationg that this problem has been solved. Maybe when the aircraft is officially unveiled we'll see some articles about it?

]]> By: M. Murcek http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136044 M. Murcek Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:50:24 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136044 And actually, the transporters Boeing is using are modded 747s http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2830547/ And actually, the transporters Boeing is using are modded 747s

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2830547/

]]> By: DC Loser http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/comment-page-1/#comment-136009 DC Loser Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:01:15 +0000 http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2007/06/the_boeing_787_dreamliner_flappy_wings_unveiled/#comment-136009 Rich - Correction on the Superfreighter. It's the Antonov design bureau that the Ukrainians inherited. Ilyushin is still in Russian hands and they haven't done much that I've noticed lately. Rich - Correction on the Superfreighter. It's the Antonov design bureau that the Ukrainians inherited. Ilyushin is still in Russian hands and they haven't done much that I've noticed lately.

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