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		<title>By: JackLewis.net</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_crusaders_were_right_/comment-page-1/#comment-45646</link>
		<dc:creator>JackLewis.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 12:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Around the Blogosphere&lt;/strong&gt;
The Crusaders were Right! Outside the Beltway Vermont town wants to secede to New Hampshire (...hm, they can do that?)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Around the Blogosphere</strong><br />
The Crusaders were Right! Outside the Beltway Vermont town wants to secede to New Hampshire (...hm, they can do that?)...</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_crusaders_were_right_/comment-page-1/#comment-45588</link>
		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Howse needs to brush up a little more on non-Christian history... Under the Moors in southern Europe, and especially Iberia, Jews were treated far better than they were by Christians anywhere else on the planet. It wasn&#039;t until Isabella and Ferdinand took over that the Jews were pogrom&#039;ed and persecuted there.

Also, why is Christian expansion throughout Europe inherently &quot;good&quot;, while Muslim expansion over the Middle East inherently &quot;bad&quot;? While Islam might not have been very conciliatory with local Christians, Howse doesn&#039;t seem to recall how the Christians treated the Pagans, Druids, etc. in Europe.

And I think someone already mentioned the lack of Muslim expansion after a certain point... &quot;It takes no great counter-factual leap to see what would have happened if Crusaders had not fought back. &quot; ?!? Howse is full of crap.

The overall impression I get is one over overweening bigotry - anything that other religion does is bad, while anything my religion does is good. I&#039;m certainly no defender of religious bigotry and extremeism, but someone should tell Howse it doesn&#039;t look any better when Christians do it than when Muslims do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Howse needs to brush up a little more on non-Christian history... Under the Moors in southern Europe, and especially Iberia, Jews were treated far better than they were by Christians anywhere else on the planet. It wasn't until Isabella and Ferdinand took over that the Jews were pogrom'ed and persecuted there.</p>
<p>Also, why is Christian expansion throughout Europe inherently "good", while Muslim expansion over the Middle East inherently "bad"? While Islam might not have been very conciliatory with local Christians, Howse doesn't seem to recall how the Christians treated the Pagans, Druids, etc. in Europe.</p>
<p>And I think someone already mentioned the lack of Muslim expansion after a certain point... "It takes no great counter-factual leap to see what would have happened if Crusaders had not fought back. " ?!? Howse is full of crap.</p>
<p>The overall impression I get is one over overweening bigotry - anything that other religion does is bad, while anything my religion does is good. I'm certainly no defender of religious bigotry and extremeism, but someone should tell Howse it doesn't look any better when Christians do it than when Muslims do it.</p>
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		<title>By: FireWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>FireWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 16:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article today James!</description>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 15:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gee, how did the Crusaders treat the Christians of Byzantium and the Jews of the Holy Land, I wonder? Speaking of killing and subjecting.&lt;/i&gt;

Schismatics &amp; Christ-killers, Jim!  Deus lo volt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gee, how did the Crusaders treat the Christians of Byzantium and the Jews of the Holy Land, I wonder? Speaking of killing and subjecting.</i></p>
<p>Schismatics &#038; Christ-killers, Jim!  Deus lo volt!</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  James is quoting Juan Cole to buttress his argument?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  James is quoting Juan Cole to buttress his argument?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Henley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Henley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, how did the Crusaders treat the Christians of Byzantium and the Jews of the Holy Land, I wonder? Speaking of killing and subjecting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, how did the Crusaders treat the Christians of Byzantium and the Jews of the Holy Land, I wonder? Speaking of killing and subjecting.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaving aside the pathetic inability of Hollywood to work &quot;God&quot; into the crusades, the overall history of the post seems questionable.  What evidence is there that the Moors were expansionist after the battle of Tours, let alone in the 2d millenium?

And I don&#039;t see how fighting over Jerusalem kept the Muslims out of London.  An early version of Bush&#039;s &quot;flypaper&quot; excuse?

The crusades in the Holy Land were largely ineffective, with only the 1st &amp; 3d, if I recall aright, making even a temporary difference.  And the 4th crusade did more to bring the Muslims into Europe than the other two did to keep them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving aside the pathetic inability of Hollywood to work "God" into the crusades, the overall history of the post seems questionable.  What evidence is there that the Moors were expansionist after the battle of Tours, let alone in the 2d millenium?</p>
<p>And I don't see how fighting over Jerusalem kept the Muslims out of London.  An early version of Bush's "flypaper" excuse?</p>
<p>The crusades in the Holy Land were largely ineffective, with only the 1st &#038; 3d, if I recall aright, making even a temporary difference.  And the 4th crusade did more to bring the Muslims into Europe than the other two did to keep them out.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Saudis would let him direct the video that would &quot;cap off&quot; that career?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Saudis would let him direct the video that would "cap off" that career?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 14:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&quot;If we could just take God out of the equation,&quot; says Sir Ridley, like John Lennon in Imagine, &quot;there&#039;d be no f---ing problem.&quot;&#039;

I wonder how long his directing career would last in Saudi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'"If we could just take God out of the equation," says Sir Ridley, like John Lennon in Imagine, "there'd be no f---ing problem."'</p>
<p>I wonder how long his directing career would last in Saudi?</p>
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