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		<title>By: ice</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_era_of_big_clintons_is_soon_over/comment-page-1/#comment-385253</link>
		<dc:creator>ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama has had it easy so far with the media.if hillary would have said boy wait a minute to a black news person where do you think the media would have taken that?however obama can say sweetie hold on to a white woman news person and media russert and the other puppets just ignore .america should be careful for anymore free passes we did that with bush on several ocassions and see what we are finding out now.the media is no longer giving the information we should have but what their ratings or owners dictate.signing off for now and sleep well knowing we are only a media misteak from diaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama has had it easy so far with the media.if hillary would have said boy wait a minute to a black news person where do you think the media would have taken that?however obama can say sweetie hold on to a white woman news person and media russert and the other puppets just ignore .america should be careful for anymore free passes we did that with bush on several ocassions and see what we are finding out now.the media is no longer giving the information we should have but what their ratings or owners dictate.signing off for now and sleep well knowing we are only a media misteak from diaster.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, the attack gerbils are on me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, the attack gerbils are on me...</p>
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		<title>By: rodney dill</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodney dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;   &#124;   I notice that you never respond to any information I give.&lt;/i&gt; 

Gee... and I thought I was the only one who noticed that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ha, that is anjin&#039;s leitmotif.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>   |   I notice that you never respond to any information I give.</i> </p>
<p>Gee... and I thought I was the only one who noticed that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha, that is anjin's leitmotif.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;LOL... Like I said, run along.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You really think this aids your endless quest for creds, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>LOL... Like I said, run along.</p></blockquote>
<p>You really think this aids your endless quest for creds, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, your calling me a &quot;troll&quot; suggests that I have probably voted Democrat longer than you have been alive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? You voted for Stevenson?

You are presenting a single post as your online resume? Funny, cause the rest of us have hundreds or thousands of them. So after a career consisting of one post, you just happen to show up on OTB, where the only Democrats are people who are pretty serious political bloggers. At the same time a bunch  of other people none of us have never seen before show up spouting pretty much the same line of bs...

LOL... Like I said, run along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, your calling me a "troll" suggests that I have probably voted Democrat longer than you have been alive.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? You voted for Stevenson?</p>
<p>You are presenting a single post as your online resume? Funny, cause the rest of us have hundreds or thousands of them. So after a career consisting of one post, you just happen to show up on OTB, where the only Democrats are people who are pretty serious political bloggers. At the same time a bunch  of other people none of us have never seen before show up spouting pretty much the same line of bs...</p>
<p>LOL... Like I said, run along.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I notice that you never respond to any information I give.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gee... and I thought I was the only one who noticed that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I notice that you never respond to any information I give.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gee... and I thought I was the only one who noticed that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The US Park Police, the FBI, Robert Fiske, and Ken Starr were/are all in on the cover-up. If Clinton had been in the White House for 9/11 you would be a truther.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I note with some amusment that you&#039;re avoiding the question I posed.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Name some.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Talk Left, for one. But don&#039;t take my word for it; Go over to Memeorandum on the day when that story broke, and read the reactions for yourself. There&#039;s quite a number of models and colors to chose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The US Park Police, the FBI, Robert Fiske, and Ken Starr were/are all in on the cover-up. If Clinton had been in the White House for 9/11 you would be a truther.</p></blockquote>
<p>I note with some amusment that you're avoiding the question I posed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Name some.</p></blockquote>
<p>Talk Left, for one. But don't take my word for it; Go over to Memeorandum on the day when that story broke, and read the reactions for yourself. There's quite a number of models and colors to chose from.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a very interesting comment for someone who claims to be &quot;a lifetime democrat&quot;. Because your phrasing makes it pretty obvious you are not a Democrat, not that there was really much doubt about that.

&lt;strong&gt;Run along troll boy&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, your calling me a &quot;troll&quot; suggests that I have probably voted Democrat longer than you have been alive.  I can say that the Democrats  love denial precisely because I have a long history with this party that apparently lack.   I have witnessed it&#039;s folly with Gore, Kerry, Carter, Dukakis, and Mondale.  I am very familiar with my party&#039;s ability to deny very serious problems with it&#039;s electoral prospects.

I notice that you never respond to any information I give.  I provided a quote from a Wash. Post forum with my same sreen name from &lt;strong&gt;Feb. 2007&lt;/strong&gt;, that criticizes Clinton for going after Obama -- but saying that still supported Clinton; and I posted polling data indicating a number of Democratic defections. Rather than engaging that information, you, in a very juvenile fashion, simply call me a &quot;troll.&quot;  Well, suit yourself.  This is the very type of behavior that has led many Clinton supporters to detatch themselves from the Obama movement.  Since this behavior is so effective in turning away lifetime Democrats, perhaps YOU are the Republican, not I.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is a very interesting comment for someone who claims to be "a lifetime democrat". Because your phrasing makes it pretty obvious you are not a Democrat, not that there was really much doubt about that.</p>
<p><strong>Run along troll boy</strong>...</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, your calling me a "troll" suggests that I have probably voted Democrat longer than you have been alive.  I can say that the Democrats  love denial precisely because I have a long history with this party that apparently lack.   I have witnessed it's folly with Gore, Kerry, Carter, Dukakis, and Mondale.  I am very familiar with my party's ability to deny very serious problems with it's electoral prospects.</p>
<p>I notice that you never respond to any information I give.  I provided a quote from a Wash. Post forum with my same sreen name from <strong>Feb. 2007</strong>, that criticizes Clinton for going after Obama -- but saying that still supported Clinton; and I posted polling data indicating a number of Democratic defections. Rather than engaging that information, you, in a very juvenile fashion, simply call me a "troll."  Well, suit yourself.  This is the very type of behavior that has led many Clinton supporters to detatch themselves from the Obama movement.  Since this behavior is so effective in turning away lifetime Democrats, perhaps YOU are the Republican, not I.....</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an important piece of advice: If it looks like it&#039;s going to be McCain/Palin anyway (and that should be a &quot;no brainer&quot; for Team McCain), McCain should announce NOW or VERY SOON, rather than later towards the convention. There&#039;s currently a growing chorus for Obama/Hillary (as VP) ticket (in fact the Dems are likely aware of the Palin phenomenon). If the GOP waits while movement for Hillary as VP grows -- even worse until after it is solidified that Hillary will/could be VP pick -- selecting Palin will be portrayed by Dems/liberal media more as a reaction by GOP selecting its own female (overshawdoing Palin&#039;s own remarkable assets), rather than McCain taking the lead on this. Selecting Palin now or early (contrary to the punditocracy) will mean McCain will be seen as driving the course of this campaign overwhelmingly, and the DEMS will be seen as merely reacting. And, there&#039;s absoultely no down-side to this because even if Hillary is a no-go as VP for Obama, the GOP gains by acting early. McCain the maverick. Palin the maverick. Do it now! 

There&#039;s no reason, and actually substantial negative, in McCain waiting to see what the Dems do first insofar as his picking Palin as VP, because, no matter who Obama picks, Palin is by far (and I mean far) the best pick for McCain and the GOP, especially in this time of GOP woes. The GOP can be seen as the party of real &#039;change&#039; (albeit I hate that mantra, change, change, bla bla), while not really having to change from GOP core conservative values, which Palin more than represents.

In light of the current oil/energy situation, as well as the disaffected female Hillary voters situation, and growing focus on McCain&#039;s age and health, Palin is more than perfect -- now.

(Perhaps Team McCain is already on to this.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's an important piece of advice: If it looks like it's going to be McCain/Palin anyway (and that should be a "no brainer" for Team McCain), McCain should announce NOW or VERY SOON, rather than later towards the convention. There's currently a growing chorus for Obama/Hillary (as VP) ticket (in fact the Dems are likely aware of the Palin phenomenon). If the GOP waits while movement for Hillary as VP grows -- even worse until after it is solidified that Hillary will/could be VP pick -- selecting Palin will be portrayed by Dems/liberal media more as a reaction by GOP selecting its own female (overshawdoing Palin's own remarkable assets), rather than McCain taking the lead on this. Selecting Palin now or early (contrary to the punditocracy) will mean McCain will be seen as driving the course of this campaign overwhelmingly, and the DEMS will be seen as merely reacting. And, there's absoultely no down-side to this because even if Hillary is a no-go as VP for Obama, the GOP gains by acting early. McCain the maverick. Palin the maverick. Do it now! </p>
<p>There's no reason, and actually substantial negative, in McCain waiting to see what the Dems do first insofar as his picking Palin as VP, because, no matter who Obama picks, Palin is by far (and I mean far) the best pick for McCain and the GOP, especially in this time of GOP woes. The GOP can be seen as the party of real 'change' (albeit I hate that mantra, change, change, bla bla), while not really having to change from GOP core conservative values, which Palin more than represents.</p>
<p>In light of the current oil/energy situation, as well as the disaffected female Hillary voters situation, and growing focus on McCain's age and health, Palin is more than perfect -- now.</p>
<p>(Perhaps Team McCain is already on to this.)</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anjin-san, apparently the Democrats love denial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is a very interesting comment for someone who claims to be &quot;a lifetime democrat&quot;. Because your phrasing makes it pretty obvious you are not a Democrat, not that there was really much doubt about that.

Run along troll boy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anjin-san, apparently the Democrats love denial.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a very interesting comment for someone who claims to be "a lifetime democrat". Because your phrasing makes it pretty obvious you are not a Democrat, not that there was really much doubt about that.</p>
<p>Run along troll boy...</p>
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		<title>By: Grewgills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grewgills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Bit,
The US Park Police, the FBI, Robert Fiske, and Ken Starr were/are all in on the cover-up.  If Clinton had been in the White House for 9/11 you would be a truther.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, apparently you&#039;re unlike most Obama supporters, Anjin. Given their response to Clinton&#039;s RFK comments, they wouldn&#039;t put it past her to do such, if they came between her and political power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Name some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Bit,<br />
The US Park Police, the FBI, Robert Fiske, and Ken Starr were/are all in on the cover-up.  If Clinton had been in the White House for 9/11 you would be a truther.</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, apparently you're unlike most Obama supporters, Anjin. Given their response to Clinton's RFK comments, they wouldn't put it past her to do such, if they came between her and political power.</p></blockquote>
<p>Name some.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anjin-san, apparently the Democrats love denial. It&#039;s very simplistic to say that party defectors are linked with the Republicans, but appparently, you have not been reading the news.  According to CNN pro-Clinton groups will protest the DNC meeting this weekend. Others have formed to organize defectors.  And two new polls out today - from Gallup and Rasmussen -- show Clinton beating McCain but Obama losing to him. Why? Because he loses 1/3 of Clinton&#039;s support. So burying your head in the sand does nothing. The fact that Obama is running around swing states and meeting with Clinton&#039;s demographics (older Jewish people in Florida, working class in Michigan) shows that his team is aware of this.  Ah, but perhaps the Great Obama has been duped by Rush as well.....pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anjin-san, apparently the Democrats love denial. It's very simplistic to say that party defectors are linked with the Republicans, but appparently, you have not been reading the news.  According to CNN pro-Clinton groups will protest the DNC meeting this weekend. Others have formed to organize defectors.  And two new polls out today - from Gallup and Rasmussen -- show Clinton beating McCain but Obama losing to him. Why? Because he loses 1/3 of Clinton's support. So burying your head in the sand does nothing. The fact that Obama is running around swing states and meeting with Clinton's demographics (older Jewish people in Florida, working class in Michigan) shows that his team is aware of this.  Ah, but perhaps the Great Obama has been duped by Rush as well.....pity.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure thing Tony. Say &quot;hi&quot; to Rush for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure thing Tony. Say "hi" to Rush for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; A Black Man Supporting Hillary Clinton and the Women Who Want More.....

&quot;Funny how all these people we have never seen here before are suddenly popping up railing against Obama. The McCain camp already seems a bit desperate.

Keep those doggies trollig...&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, but I don&#039;t need to pretend to be a Clinton supporter to make my point.  I am a lifetime Democrat, and if this seems implausible to you, then so be it. And I have been posting with this screen name long before the &quot;divisions&quot; started.  For example, back in Feb. 2007, I made the following statement in the Washington Post:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I do not believe that Clinton should have said anything to Obama about the Geffen interview. Why not go after Geffen himself? I do support her campain, though, and find it appalling that people -- especially men -- criticize her as being &quot;ambitious.&quot; All presidential candidates are ambitious; I suppose this is only negative for women candidates. Ambition is, in fact, a positive trait (as opposed to complacency). In fact, I pride myself on being ambitious. And like Obama, my ambition led me from growing up a poor, black household to becoming a double-Ivy Leaguer; I even managed to get accepted to an even higher ranked and more selective law school (yes, the one that Bill and Hilary attended).

Also, as for Clinton&#039;s endorsement of the legislation authorizing force in Iraq, the same people who are now decrying her vote supported Kerry and cheered the orchestrated demise of Howard Dean (who was the loudest candidate opposing the war). In the end, Clinton should not have directed her attention to Obama. So -- big blunder! But I do not see her as the monster that most do. 

PS: Obama is as much a lawyer and politician as Hilary. And he strikes me as a very amibitious fellow (otherwise, why not just remain content with a secure Senate seat?).

&lt;strong&gt;Posted by: Tony Smith &#124; February 21, 2007 6:06 PM&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

PS: I tried to post the link to this quote, but the Spam program kept blocking it. Just google the quote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> A Black Man Supporting Hillary Clinton and the Women Who Want More.....</p>
<p>"Funny how all these people we have never seen here before are suddenly popping up railing against Obama. The McCain camp already seems a bit desperate.</p>
<p>Keep those doggies trollig..."</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, but I don't need to pretend to be a Clinton supporter to make my point.  I am a lifetime Democrat, and if this seems implausible to you, then so be it. And I have been posting with this screen name long before the "divisions" started.  For example, back in Feb. 2007, I made the following statement in the Washington Post:</p>
<blockquote><p>I do not believe that Clinton should have said anything to Obama about the Geffen interview. Why not go after Geffen himself? I do support her campain, though, and find it appalling that people -- especially men -- criticize her as being "ambitious." All presidential candidates are ambitious; I suppose this is only negative for women candidates. Ambition is, in fact, a positive trait (as opposed to complacency). In fact, I pride myself on being ambitious. And like Obama, my ambition led me from growing up a poor, black household to becoming a double-Ivy Leaguer; I even managed to get accepted to an even higher ranked and more selective law school (yes, the one that Bill and Hilary attended).</p>
<p>Also, as for Clinton's endorsement of the legislation authorizing force in Iraq, the same people who are now decrying her vote supported Kerry and cheered the orchestrated demise of Howard Dean (who was the loudest candidate opposing the war). In the end, Clinton should not have directed her attention to Obama. So -- big blunder! But I do not see her as the monster that most do. </p>
<p>PS: Obama is as much a lawyer and politician as Hilary. And he strikes me as a very amibitious fellow (otherwise, why not just remain content with a secure Senate seat?).</p>
<p><strong>Posted by: Tony Smith | February 21, 2007 6:06 PM</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>PS: I tried to post the link to this quote, but the Spam program kept blocking it. Just google the quote...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the outcry?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;the outcry&quot; is mostly taking heads that need something to talk about... 

Obama supporters are by in large focused on November. Like me, they found the comment distasteful, but nothing to raise your blood pressure about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the outcry?</p></blockquote>
<p>"the outcry" is mostly taking heads that need something to talk about... </p>
<p>Obama supporters are by in large focused on November. Like me, they found the comment distasteful, but nothing to raise your blood pressure about.</p>
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