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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_failed_fitzgerald_investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-64275</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unbelievable--Clinton lies about some sexcapades and the righties are all over it. Now we have administration officials who commit TREASON and endanger all of us--deliberately outing a covert agent working in WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION for petty revenge. And the wingnuts just can&#039;t accept that reality so they attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, the CIA, all Democrats, etc. Pathetic. But it is an interesting case study in trash politics and in human psychology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unbelievable--Clinton lies about some sexcapades and the righties are all over it. Now we have administration officials who commit TREASON and endanger all of us--deliberately outing a covert agent working in WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION for petty revenge. And the wingnuts just can't accept that reality so they attack Wilson, Plame, Fitzgerald, the CIA, all Democrats, etc. Pathetic. But it is an interesting case study in trash politics and in human psychology.</p>
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		<title>By: LR</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_failed_fitzgerald_investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-63048</link>
		<dc:creator>LR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a truly absurd post.  If you think that&#039;s how a criminal investigation proceeds, thank God you aren&#039;t in law enforcement.

The finer points of the underlying laws have yet to be litigated.  Neither Fitzgerald nor the rest of the world at large knows exactly what makes for covert status.

It&#039;s really sad and funny to watch people try to whitewash this away.  And attack Fitzgerald.  Very genuine, honest and ethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's a truly absurd post.  If you think that's how a criminal investigation proceeds, thank God you aren't in law enforcement.</p>
<p>The finer points of the underlying laws have yet to be litigated.  Neither Fitzgerald nor the rest of the world at large knows exactly what makes for covert status.</p>
<p>It's really sad and funny to watch people try to whitewash this away.  And attack Fitzgerald.  Very genuine, honest and ethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Everything Between &#187; Arsip blog &#187; U.S. Air Strikes</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_failed_fitzgerald_investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-63003</link>
		<dc:creator>Everything Between &#187; Arsip blog &#187; U.S. Air Strikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meanwhile, 26 Iraqi civilians (not &#8220;insurgents&#8221;) were killed in airstrikes yesterday in Iraq. Granted, news outlets are allowed a day off from LeakGate&#8230; but what of Scalito? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Meanwhile, 26 Iraqi civilians (not &#8220;insurgents&#8221;) were killed in airstrikes yesterday in Iraq. Granted, news outlets are allowed a day off from LeakGate&#8230; but what of Scalito? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Mac Donald</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_failed_fitzgerald_investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-62942</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Mac Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could have been settled in one day?  Maybe.  But if a crime was committed in the course of the investigation on that one day, then the determination as to whether a crime has been committed becomes doubly problematic and the investigation must branch out.  That -- except for the one day part of it -- is what happened at least five times (as I am a mere citizen and not a prosecutor, juror or any other court official, I am free to ignore the presumption of innocence since I shall have no voice in determining whether the guy (Libby and his bosses) is guilty as cjarged.  In fact, he did what he&#039;s accused of -- lying, obstructing justice.  But maybe these are not crimes in his case.  A jury can decide on that in less than one day.  Ten minutes should be enough.  Let&#039;s wait and see.  But he&#039;s still guilty in fact if not in law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could have been settled in one day?  Maybe.  But if a crime was committed in the course of the investigation on that one day, then the determination as to whether a crime has been committed becomes doubly problematic and the investigation must branch out.  That -- except for the one day part of it -- is what happened at least five times (as I am a mere citizen and not a prosecutor, juror or any other court official, I am free to ignore the presumption of innocence since I shall have no voice in determining whether the guy (Libby and his bosses) is guilty as cjarged.  In fact, he did what he's accused of -- lying, obstructing justice.  But maybe these are not crimes in his case.  A jury can decide on that in less than one day.  Ten minutes should be enough.  Let's wait and see.  But he's still guilty in fact if not in law.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_failed_fitzgerald_investigation/comment-page-1/#comment-62837</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Fitz has empaneled another GJ after 22 months just to ensure that everyone knows there wasn&#039;t a crime and that the administration hasn&#039;t - in any way - done anything near a crime.

Dream on Leopold.  It ain&#039;t over &#039;till it&#039;s over.  Luckily, this particular issue isn&#039;t going to be decided in the court of blogospheric punditry.

I can&#039;t believe this post.  Too bad it missed the wanker of the week deadline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Fitz has empaneled another GJ after 22 months just to ensure that everyone knows there wasn't a crime and that the administration hasn't - in any way - done anything near a crime.</p>
<p>Dream on Leopold.  It ain't over 'till it's over.  Luckily, this particular issue isn't going to be decided in the court of blogospheric punditry.</p>
<p>I can't believe this post.  Too bad it missed the wanker of the week deadline.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Horgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Horgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple of photos of Fitzgerald in Ireland</description>
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		<title>By: ICallMasICM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ICallMasICM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;And this is different from the Libby indictmentâ¦how?&#039;

How....I missed where Clinton was indicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'And this is different from the Libby indictmentâ¦how?'</p>
<p>How....I missed where Clinton was indicted.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Considering that Fitzgerald has prosecuted 60 Republicans, and 2 Democrats, doesânt that explain a bit more about his overzealous motivation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a Republican, such numbers make me embarassed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Considering that Fitzgerald has prosecuted 60 Republicans, and 2 Democrats, doesânt that explain a bit more about his overzealous motivation?</p></blockquote>
<p>As a Republican, such numbers make me embarassed.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is it a crime or isn&#039;t it to lie to a grand jury?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is it a crime or isn't it to lie to a grand jury?</p>
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		<title>By: cali_sun</title>
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		<dc:creator>cali_sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that Fitzgerald has prosecuted 60 Republicans, and 2 Democrats, does&#039;nt that explain a bit more about his overzealous motivation? Wilson, the liar and whiner, and obstructionist should have been charged together with his wife, and the so-called insider CIA, who&#039;s only purpose was to undermine, and bring down the Bush Administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that Fitzgerald has prosecuted 60 Republicans, and 2 Democrats, does'nt that explain a bit more about his overzealous motivation? Wilson, the liar and whiner, and obstructionist should have been charged together with his wife, and the so-called insider CIA, who's only purpose was to undermine, and bring down the Bush Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles W. Stricklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles W. Stricklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Holy Crap!&lt;/strong&gt;

	Only a year or so ago, we were talking about how we had to avoid invading Iran, if only because the young people there yearned for Western-style Democracy and to do so would only stir them up in propaganda against us.
	Now, one of the students that ov...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Holy Crap!</strong></p>
<p>	Only a year or so ago, we were talking about how we had to avoid invading Iran, if only because the young people there yearned for Western-style Democracy and to do so would only stir them up in propaganda against us.<br />
	Now, one of the students that ov...</p>
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		<title>By: Reporter for Doody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reporter for Doody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The underlying crime for Clinton was not having sex with Monica - that wasnt a crime. He tried to get Monica to submit a false statement to the grand jury. That is a crime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The underlying crime for Clinton was not having sex with Monica - that wasnt a crime. He tried to get Monica to submit a false statement to the grand jury. That is a crime!</p>
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		<title>By: Little Miss Attila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Miss Attila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Plamegate, the Libby Indictment&lt;/strong&gt;

There&#039;s an interesting discussion going on here. As far as I&#039;m concerned, everyone needs to learn the &quot;Martha Stewart/Bill Clinton Lesson&quot;: Don&#039;t fucking lie when there&#039;s any kind of Federal-level investigation. No matter fucking what. Have we fo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Plamegate, the Libby Indictment</strong></p>
<p>There's an interesting discussion going on here. As far as I'm concerned, everyone needs to learn the "Martha Stewart/Bill Clinton Lesson": Don't fucking lie when there's any kind of Federal-level investigation. No matter fucking what. Have we fo...</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I would not be surprised if the people we depend upon to defend our national security do indeed despise and loathe the Bush administrations (what patriot doesn&#039;t?) and want to see them defeated this is not revelant to the fact that people in the Bush administration destroyed part of our national security infrastructure for political reasons. 

Normally we would call this treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I would not be surprised if the people we depend upon to defend our national security do indeed despise and loathe the Bush administrations (what patriot doesn't?) and want to see them defeated this is not revelant to the fact that people in the Bush administration destroyed part of our national security infrastructure for political reasons. </p>
<p>Normally we would call this treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Allwar Isbad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allwar Isbad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental flaw in your assertion is that it was the &lt;b&gt;CIA that sent in the complaint&lt;/b&gt; to the DOJ, regarding a covert operative being outed. You guys really need to get your facts straight. 

Or you may now suggest that it is all a CIA conspiracy to go after the WH ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental flaw in your assertion is that it was the <b>CIA that sent in the complaint</b> to the DOJ, regarding a covert operative being outed. You guys really need to get your facts straight. </p>
<p>Or you may now suggest that it is all a CIA conspiracy to go after the WH ...</p>
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