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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/the_obama_surge/comment-page-1/#comment-250070</link>
		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been leaning towards Obama, but I have to admit that, after attending the Columbia event at Brice Stadium, I came away feeling less warm towards him.  It seemed to me (and to my son, who was with me) that Obama was trying too hard to sound &quot;Southern&quot; and &quot;Black&quot;.  That&#039;s a bit of a turn-off to those of us who have regarded his authenticity as one of his strengths.

That having been said, on matters of policy he&#039;s the guy who seems to best match my interests, so I&#039;ll probably still vote for him.  Or maybe Bill Richardson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been leaning towards Obama, but I have to admit that, after attending the Columbia event at Brice Stadium, I came away feeling less warm towards him.  It seemed to me (and to my son, who was with me) that Obama was trying too hard to sound "Southern" and "Black".  That's a bit of a turn-off to those of us who have regarded his authenticity as one of his strengths.</p>
<p>That having been said, on matters of policy he's the guy who seems to best match my interests, so I'll probably still vote for him.  Or maybe Bill Richardson.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care is the task she was put publicly in charge of.  She did a lot more than that behind the scenes, it seems obvious in her debate performance she has command of the facts that comes from experience.  Certainly way more experience than &quot;I happened to be lame duck disgraced mayor a city when it was bombed&quot; experience.  Well, now I have certainly revealed two  candidates I don&#039;t want to vote for.  Just my luck they are the frontrunners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care is the task she was put publicly in charge of.  She did a lot more than that behind the scenes, it seems obvious in her debate performance she has command of the facts that comes from experience.  Certainly way more experience than "I happened to be lame duck disgraced mayor a city when it was bombed" experience.  Well, now I have certainly revealed two  candidates I don't want to vote for.  Just my luck they are the frontrunners.</p>
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		<title>By: ConservativeKicks.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConservativeKicks.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Obama Surge ...&lt;/strong&gt;

You&#039;ve been kicked (a good thing) - Trackback from ConservativeKicks.com...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Obama Surge ...</strong></p>
<p>You've been kicked (a good thing) - Trackback from ConservativeKicks.com...</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Prather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Prather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

You value her experience as First Lady &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;much&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; more highly than I do.  The one real task she was given -- health care -- was a complete disaster and was enough to publicly sideline her as a policy force for the rest of Bill&#039;s time in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>You value her experience as First Lady <em><strong>much</strong></em> more highly than I do.  The one real task she was given -- health care -- was a complete disaster and was enough to publicly sideline her as a policy force for the rest of Bill's time in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m not a Hillary supporter but I can&#039;t let this one go. She spent 12 years married to the governor of Arkansas and 8 to the President, and as we all know she didn&#039;t spend that time baking cookies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So how much experience does Monica Lewinsky have?  Maybe Hillzilla should pick her as a running mate!  Think of the cabinet meetings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm not a Hillary supporter but I can't let this one go. She spent 12 years married to the governor of Arkansas and 8 to the President, and as we all know she didn't spend that time baking cookies.</p></blockquote>
<p>So how much experience does Monica Lewinsky have?  Maybe Hillzilla should pick her as a running mate!  Think of the cabinet meetings!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hillary Clinton has the same issues with experience with just four additional years in elected office. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not a Hillary supporter but I can&#039;t let this one go.  She spent 12 years married to the governor of Arkansas and 8 to the President, and as we all know she didn&#039;t spend that time baking cookies.  Her resume isn&#039;t 6 years in the Senate -- 60 years in the Senate probably wouldn&#039;t equal the experience of her 8 years in the White House.  It seems pretty clear from the Dem debates that Hillary has more real experience than anyone else in the Dem field (or the field on either side) -- the real knock on her is that maybe she has too much experience for a country that might be happier with a fresher face/name.

PS, Hillary has 4 more years of experience in a federal elected office, but Obama has 4 more years than Hillary as an elected officeholder if you could his time in the Illinois legislature.  I&#039;m not looking to debate the relative value of experience in the state Senate vs. US Senate vs. CEO vs. mayor, just noting that I think the highlighted sentence isn&#039;t actually correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hillary Clinton has the same issues with experience with just four additional years in elected office. </p></blockquote>
<p>I'm not a Hillary supporter but I can't let this one go.  She spent 12 years married to the governor of Arkansas and 8 to the President, and as we all know she didn't spend that time baking cookies.  Her resume isn't 6 years in the Senate -- 60 years in the Senate probably wouldn't equal the experience of her 8 years in the White House.  It seems pretty clear from the Dem debates that Hillary has more real experience than anyone else in the Dem field (or the field on either side) -- the real knock on her is that maybe she has too much experience for a country that might be happier with a fresher face/name.</p>
<p>PS, Hillary has 4 more years of experience in a federal elected office, but Obama has 4 more years than Hillary as an elected officeholder if you could his time in the Illinois legislature.  I'm not looking to debate the relative value of experience in the state Senate vs. US Senate vs. CEO vs. mayor, just noting that I think the highlighted sentence isn't actually correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I would prefer J.C. Watts from Oklahoma or even on the Dem side Ford from Tennessee.

I couldn’t care less about the race or sex of the candidates but realize some do. I suspect many will vote for Obama or Hillary for that reason alone. If Obama losses, I doubt it will be because of his skin color.

The Black vote has been 90% Democrat for quite some time and don’t see it changing in next election. Possible higher turn out but unlikely any higher then the anti turn out. 
 
I would prefer Obama over Clinton but unlikely to vote for any of the Dems that are running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I would prefer J.C. Watts from Oklahoma or even on the Dem side Ford from Tennessee.</p>
<p>I couldn&rsquo;t care less about the race or sex of the candidates but realize some do. I suspect many will vote for Obama or Hillary for that reason alone. If Obama losses, I doubt it will be because of his skin color.</p>
<p>The Black vote has been 90% Democrat for quite some time and don&rsquo;t see it changing in next election. Possible higher turn out but unlikely any higher then the anti turn out. </p>
<p>I would prefer Obama over Clinton but unlikely to vote for any of the Dems that are running.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2007/12/10/fear-ends-hope-begins-barack-o/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oliver Willis&lt;/a&gt; jumps on the Obama bandwagon.  I have carefully avoided any cheap shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2007/12/10/fear-ends-hope-begins-barack-o/" rel="nofollow">Oliver Willis</a> jumps on the Obama bandwagon.  I have carefully avoided any cheap shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have noticed that in South Carolina, those who attended the Obama/Oprah rally had no problem admitting that Oprah was going to influence their vote.

Though in Iowa and New Hampshire, no one will admit to this,but I bet you a bottom dollar that they vote the Oprah party line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed that in South Carolina, those who attended the Obama/Oprah rally had no problem admitting that Oprah was going to influence their vote.</p>
<p>Though in Iowa and New Hampshire, no one will admit to this,but I bet you a bottom dollar that they vote the Oprah party line.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m still waiting to see if Oprah&#039;s endorsement helps or hurts.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Me, too.  My guess is that it won&#039;t help as much as one might think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
I'm still waiting to see if Oprah's endorsement helps or hurts.
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<p>Me, too.  My guess is that it won't help as much as one might think.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Prather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Prather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I&#039;m still waiting to see if Oprah&#039;s endorsement helps or hurts.  I&#039;m guessing it will help, but most celebrity endorsements tend to hurt candidates.  Oprah, however, is a person that people can relate to.

I agree that Obama is a great prospect for the first black president, and if he&#039;s nominated he might get my vote, depending who the Republicans pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I'm still waiting to see if Oprah's endorsement helps or hurts.  I'm guessing it will help, but most celebrity endorsements tend to hurt candidates.  Oprah, however, is a person that people can relate to.</p>
<p>I agree that Obama is a great prospect for the first black president, and if he's nominated he might get my vote, depending who the Republicans pick.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he means something different by it.  As I understand it he means a culture characteristic of Americans of sub-Saharan African descent,  descendants of slaves.  I am, no doubt, bowdlerizing his actual intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he means something different by it.  As I understand it he means a culture characteristic of Americans of sub-Saharan African descent,  descendants of slaves.  I am, no doubt, bowdlerizing his actual intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Charles Moskos has characterized as the “Afro American community”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He may have used the term, but he swiped it from someone else.   Ida Reid was talking about the &quot;Afro American&quot; community in her 1927 Social Forces article on Harlem.

Moskos did come up with the catchy phrase, &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Charles Moskos has characterized as the “Afro American community”</p></blockquote>
<p>He may have used the term, but he swiped it from someone else.   Ida Reid was talking about the "Afro American" community in her 1927 Social Forces article on Harlem.</p>
<p>Moskos did come up with the catchy phrase, "don't ask, don't tell."</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a prospect for first Black president Barack Obama is about as good as it gets.  He didn&#039;t grow up in what the sociologist Charles Moskos has characterized as the &#147;Afro American community&#148; but his African father has bequeathed him not only his complexion but also what passes for authenticity these days.

I&#039;ve always wondered whether he&#039;d have a harder time convincing African Americans that he was a good standard bearer than white Democrats.  Oprah&#039;s &lt;i&gt;imprimatur&lt;/i&gt; probably settles that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a prospect for first Black president Barack Obama is about as good as it gets.  He didn't grow up in what the sociologist Charles Moskos has characterized as the &#8220;Afro American community&#8221; but his African father has bequeathed him not only his complexion but also what passes for authenticity these days.</p>
<p>I've always wondered whether he'd have a harder time convincing African Americans that he was a good standard bearer than white Democrats.  Oprah's <i>imprimatur</i> probably settles that question.</p>
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