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		<title>By: Kevin Drum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Drum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main point wasn&#039;t whether it was odd or not for Steinberg to act the way she does, but just whether or not reporting it was a legitimate thing for the NYT to do.

I happen to think that what she does is just fine, and I look forward to the day when everyone else thinks it&#039;s just fine too.  However, that day hasn&#039;t arrived, and I don&#039;t think the NYT did anything wrong in running this story.  Putting up with stories about the personal life of presidential candidates and their marriages is just part of the game.

(Granted, though, the paragraph implying that maybe something was wrong with their marriage was probably out of bounds.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main point wasn't whether it was odd or not for Steinberg to act the way she does, but just whether or not reporting it was a legitimate thing for the NYT to do.</p>
<p>I happen to think that what she does is just fine, and I look forward to the day when everyone else thinks it's just fine too.  However, that day hasn't arrived, and I don't think the NYT did anything wrong in running this story.  Putting up with stories about the personal life of presidential candidates and their marriages is just part of the game.</p>
<p>(Granted, though, the paragraph implying that maybe something was wrong with their marriage was probably out of bounds.)</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have preferred Dr. Steinberg for First Lady over Hillary. Too bad the choice between their respective husbands isn&#039;t so easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have preferred Dr. Steinberg for First Lady over Hillary. Too bad the choice between their respective husbands isn't so easy.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is of course the semi-precedent of Mrs Blair (or Cherie Booth Q.C. as she prefers to be known professionally) in the UK. Ms Booth has continued a stellar career as a lawyer for the last seven years, in some cases representing clients who were appealing against government administrative decisions. She also earns much more money than the Prime Minister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is of course the semi-precedent of Mrs Blair (or Cherie Booth Q.C. as she prefers to be known professionally) in the UK. Ms Booth has continued a stellar career as a lawyer for the last seven years, in some cases representing clients who were appealing against government administrative decisions. She also earns much more money than the Prime Minister.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The wives of presidents and presidential candidates have come under great scrutiny for longer than I can remember. Certainly, Eleanor Roosevelt and Jackie Kennedy were major public figures.&quot; 

I would say it goes back to Mary Todd Lincoln.
She was the first First Lady to establish the position as a type of Office.

Eceryone knows the story, that she went insane after Lincoln was shot or that she was always insane. But in the past 20 years or so researchers have shown that she was hated by both sides of the party for being such an intentionally direct and very public figure.

Her so called abnormal spiritualism ( calling the dead around a candle- dream tripping etc.) was a very common practice by women in all of America at the time.

Her direct involvment with helping freed slaves get on their feet and becomeing independent, brought here scorn from both sides of the aisle, everyone wanted her out just as much as they wanted Lincoln himself out.

When she was commited to a mental institution, (by her own son)there were laws put in place to restrict family members from commiting each other because it was so common at the time and often bogus. The doctor who recommended the jury lock her up never even met her before. The jury took only 15 min. to decide and in the time she was locked up she never received treatment of anykind.

So I would certainly say, first lady politics started with Lincoln.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The wives of presidents and presidential candidates have come under great scrutiny for longer than I can remember. Certainly, Eleanor Roosevelt and Jackie Kennedy were major public figures." </p>
<p>I would say it goes back to Mary Todd Lincoln.<br />
She was the first First Lady to establish the position as a type of Office.</p>
<p>Eceryone knows the story, that she went insane after Lincoln was shot or that she was always insane. But in the past 20 years or so researchers have shown that she was hated by both sides of the party for being such an intentionally direct and very public figure.</p>
<p>Her so called abnormal spiritualism ( calling the dead around a candle- dream tripping etc.) was a very common practice by women in all of America at the time.</p>
<p>Her direct involvment with helping freed slaves get on their feet and becomeing independent, brought here scorn from both sides of the aisle, everyone wanted her out just as much as they wanted Lincoln himself out.</p>
<p>When she was commited to a mental institution, (by her own son)there were laws put in place to restrict family members from commiting each other because it was so common at the time and often bogus. The doctor who recommended the jury lock her up never even met her before. The jury took only 15 min. to decide and in the time she was locked up she never received treatment of anykind.</p>
<p>So I would certainly say, first lady politics started with Lincoln.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another example of the reaction to an event being bigger than the event. Anytime there is a new face running for office we get the obligatory biographical stories about the whole family. That&#039;s all this is. The fact that she shuns the spot light is newsworthy since it looks like her husband has a shot to get the nomination. For possibly the first time, I agree with Kevin Drum chapter and verse. 

&lt;i&gt;People&lt;/i&gt; magazine is a perennial best seller because people are interested in well, people.  You&#039;ll never confuse me for a NYT apologist, but this is a legitimate story. Boring, but legit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another example of the reaction to an event being bigger than the event. Anytime there is a new face running for office we get the obligatory biographical stories about the whole family. That's all this is. The fact that she shuns the spot light is newsworthy since it looks like her husband has a shot to get the nomination. For possibly the first time, I agree with Kevin Drum chapter and verse. </p>
<p><i>People</i> magazine is a perennial best seller because people are interested in well, people.  You'll never confuse me for a NYT apologist, but this is a legitimate story. Boring, but legit.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYT&#039;s in on the holy wing conspiracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT's in on the holy wing conspiracy?</p>
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		<title>By: joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to pass by Dr. Steinberg&#039;s office all of the time in Vermont.  She works in an old creamery turned into office suites in the, you guessed it, the Creamery Building on Route 7 in Shelburne VT.  

What I found amazing is that even after Dean started to campaign, she didn&#039;t remove her name from the roadside sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to pass by Dr. Steinberg's office all of the time in Vermont.  She works in an old creamery turned into office suites in the, you guessed it, the Creamery Building on Route 7 in Shelburne VT.  </p>
<p>What I found amazing is that even after Dean started to campaign, she didn't remove her name from the roadside sign.</p>
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		<title>By: The Grouchy Old Yorkie Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Grouchy Old Yorkie Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A healthy marriage is a partnership -- two equals, each with a variety of skills, talents and interests that (hopefully) complement those of the other.  Ideally, each partner employs those skills, talents and interests towards common agreed-upon goals, and each partner looks out for the best interests of the other.

In many cases, and perhaps in this one, one partner is perhaps more self-involved than partnership-involved.  This is, unfortunately, a rising trend in modern marriages and, I would venture to guess, a primary reason why more than half of American marriages fail.

More and more, we Americans seem to accept that our First Ladies have quasi-legitimate formal political roles.  In the case of married candidates, while we may only cast a vote for President, the truth is that when the dust settles we get the bonus of an un-elected key player in the White House with significant influence.  That being the case, and given the grave importance of the Presidential position, I think it is reasonable for voters to weigh the strength or weakness of that influence and available information about what that person thinks about various issues.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A healthy marriage is a partnership -- two equals, each with a variety of skills, talents and interests that (hopefully) complement those of the other.  Ideally, each partner employs those skills, talents and interests towards common agreed-upon goals, and each partner looks out for the best interests of the other.</p>
<p>In many cases, and perhaps in this one, one partner is perhaps more self-involved than partnership-involved.  This is, unfortunately, a rising trend in modern marriages and, I would venture to guess, a primary reason why more than half of American marriages fail.</p>
<p>More and more, we Americans seem to accept that our First Ladies have quasi-legitimate formal political roles.  In the case of married candidates, while we may only cast a vote for President, the truth is that when the dust settles we get the bonus of an un-elected key player in the White House with significant influence.  That being the case, and given the grave importance of the Presidential position, I think it is reasonable for voters to weigh the strength or weakness of that influence and available information about what that person thinks about various issues.</p>
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