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	<title>Comments on: The Passion Of The Drunken Gibson: Jew Hating</title>
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		<title>By: More Distancing Selves From Mel Gibson - Liberal Values -</title>
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		<dc:creator>More Distancing Selves From Mel Gibson - Liberal Values -</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Sullivan writes that “Either this is an extremely elaborate hoax or it’s the end of Gibson’s career.” Some conservatives are worried about guilt by association. Outside the Beltway writes: Don’t get me wrong, if this report is true (and I have no reason to doubt that it isn’t), then Mel Gibson is a total scumbag. But the implication that Christians that liked The Passion are now somehow guilty by association is just as ludicrous as making the same argument about people whom liked Braveheart and Lethal Weapon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Andrew Sullivan writes that “Either this is an extremely elaborate hoax or it&rsquo;s the end of Gibson&rsquo;s career.” Some conservatives are worried about guilt by association. Outside the Beltway writes: Don&rsquo;t get me wrong, if this report is true (and I have no reason to doubt that it isn&rsquo;t), then Mel Gibson is a total scumbag. But the implication that Christians that liked The Passion are now somehow guilty by association is just as ludicrous as making the same argument about people whom liked Braveheart and Lethal Weapon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://stephen.hill@tiscali.co.uk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I watched Gallipoli (where the English just drank tea), Braveheart (ooh! those nasty English again, oh, and Braveheart was Robert the Bruce actually), Joan of Arc (screaming model who couldn&#039;t act)and Patriot(really nasty English there, not a loyalist in sight, although the whole of New York was), and finally I watched The Passion of Jesus Christ. I&#039;m not the most educated guy in the world, but I refuse to believe that the English used to dress like that.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://stephen.hill@tiscali.co.uk" rel="nofollow">I watched Gallipoli (where the English just drank tea), Braveheart (ooh! those nasty English again, oh, and Braveheart was Robert the Bruce actually), Joan of Arc (screaming model who couldn't act)and Patriot(really nasty English there, not a loyalist in sight, although the whole of New York was), and finally I watched The Passion of Jesus Christ. I'm not the most educated guy in the world, but I refuse to believe that the English used to dress like that.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel is a drunk bigot!

http://www.melhatesjews.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel is a drunk bigot!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.melhatesjews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.melhatesjews.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who are making excuses and otherwise rationalizing Gibsons actions are simply off the mark here. If the man were not a virulent anti-semite than why did his remarks in Readers Digest circa 2004 very much donwnplay the carnage that resulted from the holocaust (11,000,000 dead)and why has he failed to refute in even the slighest way the many remarks made by his holocaust denying father? This type of overt bigotry or racism should not be tolerated no matter who the 
perpatrator is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who are making excuses and otherwise rationalizing Gibsons actions are simply off the mark here. If the man were not a virulent anti-semite than why did his remarks in Readers Digest circa 2004 very much donwnplay the carnage that resulted from the holocaust (11,000,000 dead)and why has he failed to refute in even the slighest way the many remarks made by his holocaust denying father? This type of overt bigotry or racism should not be tolerated no matter who the<br />
perpatrator is.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t resist an instant cartoon - the passion continues...
http://bitternessoflife.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn't resist an instant cartoon - the passion continues...<br />
<a href="http://bitternessoflife.com" rel="nofollow">http://bitternessoflife.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ohno</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see an episode of COPS with the dash cam from this arrest.

It&#039;s surprising how many people are rich and nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see an episode of COPS with the dash cam from this arrest.</p>
<p>It's surprising how many people are rich and nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Caliban Darklock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caliban Darklock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Passion&quot; was anti-Semitic only as much as the new testament was anti-Semitic. 

I thought it was a remarkably accurate portrayal of the accounts given in the synoptic gospels. Of course, being Jewish, I consider those accounts to be themselves inaccurate and more than a little anti-Semitic. I won&#039;t belabor the details.

As far as Gibson goes, I don&#039;t think this matters. Last week, I had a few beers and went off for about two hours on the subject of object polymorphism and how anyone who deliberately hides a base class method should be taken out and shot. 

It would be absolutely ludicrous to suggest that I was in any way serious; I just happened to have had a bad experience that day with exactly that thing. Someone hid a base class method, and consequently some code that should have worked didn&#039;t. 

So I suspect Gibson had a bad experience which he attributed to some Jewish individual he perceives as being in power, then went out and had a few drinks. As a result, when he got angry, his frustration with this Jewish antagonist turned into an exaggerated tirade against Jews in general. 

And it just seems moronic to pretend this is anything more than an angry drunk guy bitching about his day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The Passion" was anti-Semitic only as much as the new testament was anti-Semitic. </p>
<p>I thought it was a remarkably accurate portrayal of the accounts given in the synoptic gospels. Of course, being Jewish, I consider those accounts to be themselves inaccurate and more than a little anti-Semitic. I won't belabor the details.</p>
<p>As far as Gibson goes, I don't think this matters. Last week, I had a few beers and went off for about two hours on the subject of object polymorphism and how anyone who deliberately hides a base class method should be taken out and shot. </p>
<p>It would be absolutely ludicrous to suggest that I was in any way serious; I just happened to have had a bad experience that day with exactly that thing. Someone hid a base class method, and consequently some code that should have worked didn't. </p>
<p>So I suspect Gibson had a bad experience which he attributed to some Jewish individual he perceives as being in power, then went out and had a few drinks. As a result, when he got angry, his frustration with this Jewish antagonist turned into an exaggerated tirade against Jews in general. </p>
<p>And it just seems moronic to pretend this is anything more than an angry drunk guy bitching about his day.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the justifiable outrage being directed Gibson&#039;s comments, that outrage seems untethered by comparison to the words and actions of others. The words &quot;proportionate response&quot; seem to come to mind here.   For example, would somebody please care to tell me what the differences between what Gibson said while totally blitzed, and what Kofi Anan has been doing in the name of the United Nations, while supposedly stone cold sober? Anan&#039;s actions seem to me the embodiment of Gibson&#039;s words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the justifiable outrage being directed Gibson's comments, that outrage seems untethered by comparison to the words and actions of others. The words "proportionate response" seem to come to mind here.   For example, would somebody please care to tell me what the differences between what Gibson said while totally blitzed, and what Kofi Anan has been doing in the name of the United Nations, while supposedly stone cold sober? Anan's actions seem to me the embodiment of Gibson's words.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-kidding-really-officer-levine.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jack Balkin&lt;/a&gt; has maybe the best (certainly the sharpest) response I&#039;ve seen:&lt;blockquote&gt;
Mel Gibson&#039;s next project is a mini-series on the Holocaust. Apparently, it has a surprise ending.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Cha-&lt;i&gt;ching&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2006/07/just-kidding-really-officer-levine.html" rel="nofollow">Jack Balkin</a> has maybe the best (certainly the sharpest) response I've seen:<br />
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Mel Gibson's next project is a mini-series on the Holocaust. Apparently, it has a surprise ending.</p></blockquote>
<p>Cha-<i>ching</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bible does not say that drinking alcohol is a sin but it certainly gives warning about the corrupting nature of it. This is a good example of booze at work. As a christian I won&#039;t judge Mr.Gibson,I will simply pray that he is delivered from the prison that is alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bible does not say that drinking alcohol is a sin but it certainly gives warning about the corrupting nature of it. This is a good example of booze at work. As a christian I won't judge Mr.Gibson,I will simply pray that he is delivered from the prison that is alcohol.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Gibson said was horrible--but he asked for forgiveness, and we should grant it.  He will have time to prove if his confession is genuine, until then we should be honest enough to admit that none of us is perfect.

On another note--to say that The Passion has anti-Semitic undertones is to say that the Gospel itself is anti-Semitic...it is not.  It is philo-Semitic.  And do any of you recall the various people who were saying pogroms would happen as a result of watching the film?  Did you hear any apologies?  Gibson endured much slander, and we should be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.  If he is anti-Semitic, it will come out again...and then we may say he better get things right with God in this life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Gibson said was horrible--but he asked for forgiveness, and we should grant it.  He will have time to prove if his confession is genuine, until then we should be honest enough to admit that none of us is perfect.</p>
<p>On another note--to say that The Passion has anti-Semitic undertones is to say that the Gospel itself is anti-Semitic...it is not.  It is philo-Semitic.  And do any of you recall the various people who were saying pogroms would happen as a result of watching the film?  Did you hear any apologies?  Gibson endured much slander, and we should be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here.  If he is anti-Semitic, it will come out again...and then we may say he better get things right with God in this life.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if he is an anti-Semite why would he say those things?  Is he a total idiot?  I don&#039;t even understand the comments.  

I mean the battle in the middle east then would be, in Mel Gibson&#039;s eyes, one bad religion fighting another bad religion.  But it was the Muslims that attacked Israel, so why doesn&#039;t he go on a rampage against the Muslims?  

LOL who knows!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if he is an anti-Semite why would he say those things?  Is he a total idiot?  I don't even understand the comments.  </p>
<p>I mean the battle in the middle east then would be, in Mel Gibson's eyes, one bad religion fighting another bad religion.  But it was the Muslims that attacked Israel, so why doesn't he go on a rampage against the Muslims?  </p>
<p>LOL who knows!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jaquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Jaquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;in vino, veritas&lt;/em&gt; applies for the most part, especially with non-humorous statements and actions.  If this police report is accurate, Gibson is very likely an antisemite.

&lt;em&gt;The Passion of the Christ&lt;/em&gt; cannot be judged by Gibson&#039;s words, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>in vino, veritas</em> applies for the most part, especially with non-humorous statements and actions.  If this police report is accurate, Gibson is very likely an antisemite.</p>
<p><em>The Passion of the Christ</em> cannot be judged by Gibson's words, however.</p>
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		<title>By: yetanotherjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetanotherjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where the &quot;Passion is anti-Semitic&quot; comes from. It would be a little bit like saying &quot;Patton&quot; is anti-German because it shows the Germans as being the bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure where the "Passion is anti-Semitic" comes from. It would be a little bit like saying "Patton" is anti-German because it shows the Germans as being the bad guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel Gibson issues a statement:

http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/2006/07/breaking_news_m.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel Gibson issues a statement:</p>
<p><a href="http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/2006/07/breaking_news_m.html" rel="nofollow">http://reporter.blogs.com/risky/2006/07/breaking_news_m.html</a></p>
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