Comments on: The War is Over, and We Won

By: Rod Stanton

Rod Stanton — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:28:13 +0000

The war is not over. Since March over 1,700 have been killed by the trerrorists and $billions of infrastructure destroyed. The election was a great success but a free Iraq can be crushed by terrorists before it has its next election if things continue as they have the last 3.5 months.

We have not won. We seemed to be winning in Feb; now it is not clear who is winning. Far from over - as Gen. John Abizaid's testimony today clearly stated.

By: Mark in Mexico

Mark in Mexico — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:32:09 +0000

War in Iraq Over - We Win

Men, all this stuff you've heard about America not wanting to fight - wanting to stay out of the war, is a lot of horse dung. Americans traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.

By: Just Me

Just Me — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:53:21 +0000

I think if you mean by victory, that the insurgents are now unable to really stop the democracy ball from rolling downhill, no matter how many Iraqi's and soldiers they blow up, he is probably right-although kind of hard to call it victory just yet.

Even though the insurgents are still active in Iraq, they aren't really fighting for anything, and the majority of Iraqi's want democracy-and I suspect that as the Iraqi government grows in stability, the less the Iraqi's are going to put up with the insurgents.

By: Ol' BC

Ol' BC — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:26:12 +0000

That is very interesting. Victory? Probably premature. Progress? Definitely! And definitely underreported in the MSM.

By: reliapundit

reliapundit — Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:20:18 +0000

the right is not credulous; the anti-war folks are if they believe that 20-30,000 "insurgents" can WIN and re-inflict baathist/neojihadist tyranny on the 25 million Iraqis now led by SHIAS and KURDS!

it can NEVER happen.

The ONLY - repeat - ONLY way things can go badly (between NOW and WHENEVER the anti's/doves accept that WE HAVE WON) is if anti's/doves in Congress pulled the plug on SUPPORT for the nascent Iraqi democracy the way they SHAMELESSLY in IDIOTICALLY did to the South Vietnamese Government in 1975 (which was a year after the US had signed a TREATY with the Tyrannical Commies of North Vietnam and after we'd withdrawn nearly all our troops and had already become sideline players in the war.

I am 50 - was a dove then - and KNOW this is a FACT!

Reagan PROVED that hawkish polices are MORE EFFECTIVE at dealing with bad guys than dovish policies. His deployment of Pershings in Europe - WHICH I OPPOSED AT THE TIME! - WORKED!

As the doves were wrong about Vietnam and the USSR, so too are they WRONG - repeat - WRONG NOW!

The hardest parts are OVER in Iraq - hard things remain to be done - by Iraqis, and EVERYONE who calls themselves ALLIES OF DEMOCRACY.

How IRONIC that you pooh-pooh the great VICTORY that has already been won in Iraq just as Kofi and others who opposed the war arew accepting that it is going well.

SURE: we need to do more - but as GEORGE W. BUISH and all other HAWKS ahve ALWAYS said: this GWOT/WW4 - is going to be a decades long struggle.

We are only in the 4th year of this war. We have a long way to go. It is FAR FAR FAR too early to be getting wobbly.

I remind you that Allies in WW2 took more casualties AFTER D-Day than before, and more after the Battle of The Bulge on a weekly basis than during the entire war.

So DO NOT GET WOBBLY.

The cause is great; we must show great resolve.