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		<title>By: Stix</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/troopergate_palin_abused_powers_violated_law/comment-page-1/#comment-517132</link>
		<dc:creator>Stix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they find she did anything illegal????   No   Did she do anything that should warrant her to be taking off the ticket????   No

This is a joke of a finding.   Even the supposed guy that was &quot;pressured&quot; to fire this guy said they did not pressure him.    

This pales in comiparison to what Obama and his friends in Chicago tried to do the the Chicago school system. They wanted to have groups like ACORN and their ilk indoctrinate school children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did they find she did anything illegal????   No   Did she do anything that should warrant her to be taking off the ticket????   No</p>
<p>This is a joke of a finding.   Even the supposed guy that was "pressured" to fire this guy said they did not pressure him.    </p>
<p>This pales in comiparison to what Obama and his friends in Chicago tried to do the the Chicago school system. They wanted to have groups like ACORN and their ilk indoctrinate school children.</p>
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		<title>By: TJIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary comment from a related thread over at Volokh.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/posts/1223827163.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Where are the Libertarians on Troopergate?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The report is facially corrupt, with a headline key &quot;finding&quot; that is not supported by the rest of the &quot;findings&quot; in the body of it, which cites only a general paragraph of the Ethics Act that is void for vagueness if taken by itself.

The only detailed findings do more to make the actions of the Palins commendable than unethical, and indict the signatories of this report. 

Given the known facts about Trooper Wooten and his supervisor Monegan, they both deserved to be not only fired, but prosecuted. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary comment from a related thread over at Volokh.</p>
<p><a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1223827163.shtml" rel="nofollow">Where are the Libertarians on Troopergate?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The report is facially corrupt, with a headline key "finding" that is not supported by the rest of the "findings" in the body of it, which cites only a general paragraph of the Ethics Act that is void for vagueness if taken by itself.</p>
<p>The only detailed findings do more to make the actions of the Palins commendable than unethical, and indict the signatories of this report. </p>
<p>Given the known facts about Trooper Wooten and his supervisor Monegan, they both deserved to be not only fired, but prosecuted. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not&lt;/blockquote&gt; good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not</p></blockquote>
<p> good!</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That&#039;s a form of That&#039;s a form of That&#039;s a form of plagiarism, GA, but since it&#039;s you, it&#039;s understandable. I&#039;m sure original thought engenders in you an Excedrin moment. And don&#039;t take what I originally wrote personally, I mean I did mention to &quot;higher brain functions&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


lol you spelled the name 0bama wrong,stated the wrong ability and assigned the wrong diagnoses, otherwise it was perfect,and I was only trying to help.


And you don&#039;t know poop about me except for the fact that you think your smarter then me or a better wise ass,  your way off on both assumptions.

&quot;That&#039;s a form of plagiarism&quot;, lol. Thats funny,it was a couple of posts down and obviously making fun of you, smoke another one and try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That's a form of That's a form of That's a form of plagiarism, GA, but since it's you, it's understandable. I'm sure original thought engenders in you an Excedrin moment. And don't take what I originally wrote personally, I mean I did mention to "higher brain functions".</p></blockquote>
<p>lol you spelled the name 0bama wrong,stated the wrong ability and assigned the wrong diagnoses, otherwise it was perfect,and I was only trying to help.</p>
<p>And you don't know poop about me except for the fact that you think your smarter then me or a better wise ass,  your way off on both assumptions.</p>
<p>"That's a form of plagiarism", lol. Thats funny,it was a couple of posts down and obviously making fun of you, smoke another one and try again.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you have any documentation for this? &quot;Legal Right&quot; sounds like your read on it, not one based in fact...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you have any documentation for this? "Legal Right" sounds like your read on it, not one based in fact...</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just curious James, but how does Governor Palin&#039;s malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don&#039;t know, Bill Clinton&#039;s as Governor of Arkansas?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounds a bit like moral equivalence. At any rate, Palin is running for office and the Clinton&#039;s are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just curious James, but how does Governor Palin's malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don't know, Bill Clinton's as Governor of Arkansas?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds a bit like moral equivalence. At any rate, Palin is running for office and the Clinton's are not.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;how does Governor Palin&#039;s malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don&#039;t know, Bill Clinton&#039;s as Governor of Arkansas? Or Hillary Clinton as First Lady?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Clinton had twelve years as governor and, so far as I recall, his chief malfeasance was using troopers to get him laid.  And, while I didn&#039;t have a blog at the time -- who did, really -- I thought he was morally unfit to serve as president.

I&#039;m less sure what Hillary was supposed to have done as First Lady.  The Travelgate scandal was creepy but not illegal.  The various document &quot;findings&quot; were far more disturbing.  Again, though, I thought both Clintons a cancer on the body politic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>how does Governor Palin's malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don't know, Bill Clinton's as Governor of Arkansas? Or Hillary Clinton as First Lady?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Clinton had twelve years as governor and, so far as I recall, his chief malfeasance was using troopers to get him laid.  And, while I didn't have a blog at the time -- who did, really -- I thought he was morally unfit to serve as president.</p>
<p>I'm less sure what Hillary was supposed to have done as First Lady.  The Travelgate scandal was creepy but not illegal.  The various document "findings" were far more disturbing.  Again, though, I thought both Clintons a cancer on the body politic.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is a bit of real Bushie thinking for you. Going after the man who murdered thousands of Americans in the heart of NYC is a bad thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is a bit of real Bushie thinking for you. Going after the man who murdered thousands of Americans in the heart of NYC is a bad thing...</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious James, but how does Governor Palin&#039;s malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don&#039;t know, Bill Clinton&#039;s as Governor of Arkansas?  Or Hillary Clinton as First Lady?  (Now there was someone who knew how to get someone else fired.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious James, but how does Governor Palin's malfeasance stack up against, oh, I don't know, Bill Clinton's as Governor of Arkansas?  Or Hillary Clinton as First Lady?  (Now there was someone who knew how to get someone else fired.)</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much ado about nothing, unless you wanted another reason to justify a preconceived conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much ado about nothing, unless you wanted another reason to justify a preconceived conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: rodney dill</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodney dill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davod,

This &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/palin-fires-back-in-troopergate-releases-memos-showing-insubordination/?print=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; points to the documentation for why Monegan was removed from his post. If you&#039;ve had employees, this sort of insubordination is far more than enough to fire someone for cause.

As for Wooten, I suspect that area posed an ethical dilemma for Palin. She both knew he was bad and needed to be removed due to her family link, and was in a position to influence that outcome. She chose to take the path of trying remove a bad trooper, regardless of what it would look like. 

With that in mind I can see how both finding could be made, though I suspect the first is more political payback from her own party. A handslap that has no teeth in it.

Obama has said he would do the same thing in going after Osama. Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davod,</p>
<p>This <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/16/palin-fires-back-in-troopergate-releases-memos-showing-insubordination/?print=1" rel="nofollow">post</a> points to the documentation for why Monegan was removed from his post. If you've had employees, this sort of insubordination is far more than enough to fire someone for cause.</p>
<p>As for Wooten, I suspect that area posed an ethical dilemma for Palin. She both knew he was bad and needed to be removed due to her family link, and was in a position to influence that outcome. She chose to take the path of trying remove a bad trooper, regardless of what it would look like. </p>
<p>With that in mind I can see how both finding could be made, though I suspect the first is more political payback from her own party. A handslap that has no teeth in it.</p>
<p>Obama has said he would do the same thing in going after Osama. Obama says he would go after Osama, if he knew where Osama was, regardless of whether he had the legal right to do it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;0bma is a moron, and a dangerous moron, at that. He does have a genius, though--the genius of a propagandist. He has a Hitler-like ability to reach out and massage that servileness zone that passes for the higher brain functions for a certain subset of the American population.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a form of plagiarism, GA, but since it&#039;s you, it&#039;s understandable. I&#039;m sure original thought engenders in you an Excedrin moment. And don&#039;t take what I originally wrote personally, I mean I did mention to &quot;higher brain functions&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>0bma is a moron, and a dangerous moron, at that. He does have a genius, though--the genius of a propagandist. He has a Hitler-like ability to reach out and massage that servileness zone that passes for the higher brain functions for a certain subset of the American population.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's a form of plagiarism, GA, but since it's you, it's understandable. I'm sure original thought engenders in you an Excedrin moment. And don't take what I originally wrote personally, I mean I did mention to "higher brain functions".</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that actual Vice Presidents in the past have been kicked out for crimes committed in the past - Spiro Agnew was dropped by Nixon because of extortion charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that actual Vice Presidents in the past have been kicked out for crimes committed in the past - Spiro Agnew was dropped by Nixon because of extortion charges.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it is worth, I think Mr. Joyner has bit the apple for Obama. He certainly has adopted the media&#039;s policy of not bothering to fact check before posting.  Otherwise he would have taken the time to read the reports findings ( additionally, the guy was not fired. He was reassigned and resigned instead.)
   
From Townhall.com:

taken from the report. 

&quot;Finding Number One

For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides

The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.&quot;

Finding Number Two

I find that, although Walt Monegan&#039;s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin&#039;s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.&quot;

How can the writer square his finding number one with his finding number two?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it is worth, I think Mr. Joyner has bit the apple for Obama. He certainly has adopted the media's policy of not bothering to fact check before posting.  Otherwise he would have taken the time to read the reports findings ( additionally, the guy was not fired. He was reassigned and resigned instead.)</p>
<p>From Townhall.com:</p>
<p>taken from the report. </p>
<p>"Finding Number One</p>
<p>For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides</p>
<p>The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."</p>
<p>Finding Number Two</p>
<p>I find that, although Walt Monegan's refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."</p>
<p>How can the writer square his finding number one with his finding number two?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I find no bronze star in his record&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It ain&#039;t rocket science Jim. Google &quot;Chuck Hagel Bronze Star&quot;. I will give you a freebie.

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm

Hagel is also a self-made millionaire. Unlike Sen. McCain, who lives large on his wife&#039;s dime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I find no bronze star in his record</p></blockquote>
<p>It ain't rocket science Jim. Google "Chuck Hagel Bronze Star". I will give you a freebie.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm</a></p>
<p>Hagel is also a self-made millionaire. Unlike Sen. McCain, who lives large on his wife's dime.</p>
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