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		<title>By: Joust The Facts</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_attorney_firing_scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-116585</link>
		<dc:creator>Joust The Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Furtive Glances - &quot;Too MUch On My Plate&quot; Edition...&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, since returning from the Big East Tournament I&#039;ve been exceedingly busy. The medical practice, sure, but a number of other office related issues and family projects have intervened. Besides which, my piano lessons have resumed after a holiday hi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Furtive Glances - "Too MUch On My Plate" Edition...</strong></p>
<p>Well, since returning from the Big East Tournament I've been exceedingly busy. The medical practice, sure, but a number of other office related issues and family projects have intervened. Besides which, my piano lessons have resumed after a holiday hi...</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Revere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Revere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself a conservative. I am not sure what is going on with the Republican party. The current administration sure doesn&#039;t seem like a conservative group. With over spending and less than a clear focus on our own economy. With unchecked military spending. Terrorism isn&#039;t the only threat to American society and life. Terrorism didn&#039;t begin on 9/11

When Clinton was President it seems to me many on the right simply wanted to nail Clinton on anything they could. We even had someone called a Special Prosecutor, whos job it was to find something wrong with the President. I don&#039;t remember much talk on the right about how important it was to protect the USA from Terrorism. The right wing was more concerned with getting CLinton on anything they could.

Terrorism didn&#039;t start on 9/11. It sure it home in a BIG way on that day. However all along its like the right wing was asleep towards the threats of terrorism. The attack on the US Cole took place at the end of Clintons term. Only a month or 2 before Bush 2 took office. DId we do anything about terrorism? 

Why was it ok to weaker our own homeland by trying to destroy a sitting President during the Clinton admin? Certainly there were more important issues in the world than Clintons sex life.

So after 9/11 the Bush admin pushes for an invasion into Iraq. We are told they have WMD. We invade and in a matter of weeks Saddam is out. Now years later what are we doing there. I thought Bush claimed victory years ago. If the people of Iraq want democracy let them fight for it. WHy do our sons and daughter have to fight an internal war for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a conservative. I am not sure what is going on with the Republican party. The current administration sure doesn't seem like a conservative group. With over spending and less than a clear focus on our own economy. With unchecked military spending. Terrorism isn't the only threat to American society and life. Terrorism didn't begin on 9/11</p>
<p>When Clinton was President it seems to me many on the right simply wanted to nail Clinton on anything they could. We even had someone called a Special Prosecutor, whos job it was to find something wrong with the President. I don't remember much talk on the right about how important it was to protect the USA from Terrorism. The right wing was more concerned with getting CLinton on anything they could.</p>
<p>Terrorism didn't start on 9/11. It sure it home in a BIG way on that day. However all along its like the right wing was asleep towards the threats of terrorism. The attack on the US Cole took place at the end of Clintons term. Only a month or 2 before Bush 2 took office. DId we do anything about terrorism? </p>
<p>Why was it ok to weaker our own homeland by trying to destroy a sitting President during the Clinton admin? Certainly there were more important issues in the world than Clintons sex life.</p>
<p>So after 9/11 the Bush admin pushes for an invasion into Iraq. We are told they have WMD. We invade and in a matter of weeks Saddam is out. Now years later what are we doing there. I thought Bush claimed victory years ago. If the people of Iraq want democracy let them fight for it. WHy do our sons and daughter have to fight an internal war for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;An Army of Martha Mitchells...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jay Carney made a valiant effort to belittle Josh Marshall when he bagan ranting like a latter-day Martha Mitchell about a scandal in the Justice department....</description>
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<p>Jay Carney made a valiant effort to belittle Josh Marshall when he bagan ranting like a latter-day Martha Mitchell about a scandal in the Justice department....</p>
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		<title>By: Overtaken by Events</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overtaken by Events</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tuesday Linkage - The things one learns while surrounded by the Liberal Elite...&lt;/strong&gt;

I had the pleasure of spending part of the evening with our fair city&#039;s liberal intelligentsia, and was firmly schooled about something, despite its relative non-importance, that really has their panties in a bunch at the moment. Those fired US......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tuesday Linkage - The things one learns while surrounded by the Liberal Elite...</strong></p>
<p>I had the pleasure of spending part of the evening with our fair city's liberal intelligentsia, and was firmly schooled about something, despite its relative non-importance, that really has their panties in a bunch at the moment. Those fired US......</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to know that legion can read the DNC talking points, too!

Congress can--and does--take an interest in lots of things. Things that will keep the individual members in office; things that will bring pork to their districts; things that will get them air time.

It would be preferable, at least for this taxpayer, if they took an interest in what&#039;s actually happening in the world rather than posing around. It would be preferable if they thought about the ramifications of a law they passed sometime before they passed it. It would be preferable if they grew balls and stopped throwing all the hard decisions to the judiciary.

But that&#039;s just me, I guess....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's good to know that legion can read the DNC talking points, too!</p>
<p>Congress can--and does--take an interest in lots of things. Things that will keep the individual members in office; things that will bring pork to their districts; things that will get them air time.</p>
<p>It would be preferable, at least for this taxpayer, if they took an interest in what's actually happening in the world rather than posing around. It would be preferable if they thought about the ramifications of a law they passed sometime before they passed it. It would be preferable if they grew balls and stopped throwing all the hard decisions to the judiciary.</p>
<p>But that's just me, I guess....</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sorry but &lt;strong&gt;I still don’t get &lt;/strong&gt;why you guys are arguing that the administration can’t fire its political appointees.&lt;/em&gt;

Poor reading comprehension, I guess.  They can fire whom they like -- but Congress can take an interest in the subject and decide to restore its power to confirm replacements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sorry but <strong>I still don&rsquo;t get </strong>why you guys are arguing that the administration can&rsquo;t fire its political appointees.</em></p>
<p>Poor reading comprehension, I guess.  They can fire whom they like -- but Congress can take an interest in the subject and decide to restore its power to confirm replacements.</p>
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		<title>By: vnjagvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnjagvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I missed the Gonzales &quot;lie&quot;.  What was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I missed the Gonzales "lie".  What was it?</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but I still don&#039;t get why you guys are arguing that the administration can&#039;t fire its political appointees.

Anytime a US atty is fired, it disrupts prosecutions, that occurred with Clinton, so in general the problem seems to be that the left doesn&#039;t want US atty&#039;s to be political appointees but civil servants, which is I guess fine, make that case.

But political appointees as far as I understand serve at the will of the president and he can fire them, if he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but I still don't get why you guys are arguing that the administration can't fire its political appointees.</p>
<p>Anytime a US atty is fired, it disrupts prosecutions, that occurred with Clinton, so in general the problem seems to be that the left doesn't want US atty's to be political appointees but civil servants, which is I guess fine, make that case.</p>
<p>But political appointees as far as I understand serve at the will of the president and he can fire them, if he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: legion</title>
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		<dc:creator>legion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just me,
That&#039;s because you&#039;re swallowing the administration talking point/red herring, rather than actually reading the story yourself.

Nobody disputes the President has the authority to fire these guys at will. Nobody.

Because Congress gave up its power to exercise oversight on re-appointments, there&#039;s nobody to blame for that except Arlen Specter.

The specific firings a) have the stink of political retribution on them and b) could disrupt investigations and prosecutions of administration cronys. Certainly immoral, but probably still in Bush&#039;s power.

The thing the administration doesn&#039;t want you to notice is that the DOJ&#039;s senior personnel unashamedly, unhesitatingly lied under oath to (try and) keep people from asking more questions.

That&#039;s not manufactured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just me,<br />
That's because you're swallowing the administration talking point/red herring, rather than actually reading the story yourself.</p>
<p>Nobody disputes the President has the authority to fire these guys at will. Nobody.</p>
<p>Because Congress gave up its power to exercise oversight on re-appointments, there's nobody to blame for that except Arlen Specter.</p>
<p>The specific firings a) have the stink of political retribution on them and b) could disrupt investigations and prosecutions of administration cronys. Certainly immoral, but probably still in Bush's power.</p>
<p>The thing the administration doesn't want you to notice is that the DOJ's senior personnel unashamedly, unhesitatingly lied under oath to (try and) keep people from asking more questions.</p>
<p>That's not manufactured.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I admit I have a rather &quot;who cares&quot; attitude about this.

It was 7 people.  My big question is why wasn&#039;t the guy who prosecuted Berger on the list of attornies to be fired?  Berger&#039;s butt should have gone to jail.

I guess I can&#039;t get all up in arms that the president fired people who served at his pleasure and who he could fire at will.  

I have read some of the discussions on this at other liberal leaning blogs and I really don&#039;t get the outrage.  It feels more manufactered than real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I admit I have a rather "who cares" attitude about this.</p>
<p>It was 7 people.  My big question is why wasn't the guy who prosecuted Berger on the list of attornies to be fired?  Berger's butt should have gone to jail.</p>
<p>I guess I can't get all up in arms that the president fired people who served at his pleasure and who he could fire at will.  </p>
<p>I have read some of the discussions on this at other liberal leaning blogs and I really don't get the outrage.  It feels more manufactered than real.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, the executive discretion is not in dispute here, &amp; if you mischaracterize it thus, you&#039;re missing the point.

Sure, the Prez can fire whoever he wants, but the knowledge that his replacement will have to be confirmed by the Senate provides a bit of balance.

The Senate signed away that check-&amp;-balance in the Patriot Act.

The present hearings, basically, boil down to whether or not doing so was a good idea.

Moreover, WHATEVER the discretion, Gonzales is not privileged to lie under oath to the Senate.  If he did, then that&#039;s a problem, regardless of whether all 7 fired USA&#039;s were downloading child porn and contributing to NAMBLA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, the executive discretion is not in dispute here, &amp; if you mischaracterize it thus, you're missing the point.</p>
<p>Sure, the Prez can fire whoever he wants, but the knowledge that his replacement will have to be confirmed by the Senate provides a bit of balance.</p>
<p>The Senate signed away that check-&amp;-balance in the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>The present hearings, basically, boil down to whether or not doing so was a good idea.</p>
<p>Moreover, WHATEVER the discretion, Gonzales is not privileged to lie under oath to the Senate.  If he did, then that's a problem, regardless of whether all 7 fired USA's were downloading child porn and contributing to NAMBLA.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Well considering that Harriet Miers is Bush’s legal counsel that makes for a pretty fine distinction. &lt;/em&gt;

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  My guess here--and it&#039;s just that--is that she had very vague instructions from her client and then went off and concocted a half-baked plan. As that plan went through the natural vetting process before it got back to her client, it got rebuffed.

That&#039;s not me as a Bush partisan defending my guy. I just think that&#039;s how CEOs generally and presidents in particular conduct business. There&#039;s a lot of stuff happening at &quot;the highest levels of the administration&quot; that don&#039;t ever quite make it  to &lt;strong&gt;the&lt;/strong&gt; highest level of the administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Well considering that Harriet Miers is Bush&rsquo;s legal counsel that makes for a pretty fine distinction. </em></p>
<p>Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  My guess here--and it's just that--is that she had very vague instructions from her client and then went off and concocted a half-baked plan. As that plan went through the natural vetting process before it got back to her client, it got rebuffed.</p>
<p>That's not me as a Bush partisan defending my guy. I just think that's how CEOs generally and presidents in particular conduct business. There's a lot of stuff happening at "the highest levels of the administration" that don't ever quite make it  to <strong>the</strong> highest level of the administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It turns out that “the White House” means “Harriet Miers” here, not “the president.” 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well considering that Harriet Miers is Bush&#039;s legal counsel that makes for a pretty fine distinction.  It&#039;s like arguing that Scooter never said he was too busy to remember &lt;em&gt;his lawyer&lt;/em&gt; did.  Well yeah but the lawyer is there representing the client.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It turns out that “the White House” means “Harriet Miers” here, not “the president.”
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<p>Well considering that Harriet Miers is Bush's legal counsel that makes for a pretty fine distinction.  It's like arguing that Scooter never said he was too busy to remember <em>his lawyer</em> did.  Well yeah but the lawyer is there representing the client.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Bill Clinton came to office, he fired all of the U.S, Attorneys.  I didn&#039;t hear any of you on the left decrying that action.  What part of &quot;they serve at the pleasure of the President&quot; is it that you fail to understand?  BDS bllnds so many.  The left attacks Bush no matter what he does because he does very little if anything that is not within his power as President.  Subversives on the left keep attacking this President, but in the last and only poll that counted, when give a choice between that of the left and this President, inspite of the attempted cheating on the left, Bush won by a substancial amount.  James is correct.  This is a non story put forth by those who wish this President failure.  How un-American of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Bill Clinton came to office, he fired all of the U.S, Attorneys.  I didn't hear any of you on the left decrying that action.  What part of "they serve at the pleasure of the President" is it that you fail to understand?  BDS bllnds so many.  The left attacks Bush no matter what he does because he does very little if anything that is not within his power as President.  Subversives on the left keep attacking this President, but in the last and only poll that counted, when give a choice between that of the left and this President, inspite of the attempted cheating on the left, Bush won by a substancial amount.  James is correct.  This is a non story put forth by those who wish this President failure.  How un-American of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because the firings are technically legal doesn&#039;t mean that they&#039;re a good idea.  Arguing that this matter is not controversial simply because the appointees serve at the discretion of the President is an oversimplificaiton.

The actual matter of discussion here should be whether or not the executive branch can/should exercise authoritative discretion in determining whether or not to prosecute members of the opposing political party.

Why have well-trained, experienced lawyers determine the merits of a potential legal proceeding when you can prosecute by executive decree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because the firings are technically legal doesn't mean that they're a good idea.  Arguing that this matter is not controversial simply because the appointees serve at the discretion of the President is an oversimplificaiton.</p>
<p>The actual matter of discussion here should be whether or not the executive branch can/should exercise authoritative discretion in determining whether or not to prosecute members of the opposing political party.</p>
<p>Why have well-trained, experienced lawyers determine the merits of a potential legal proceeding when you can prosecute by executive decree?</p>
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