Comments on: U.S. Citizen Deported

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Where is Pedro Guzman? « cannablog — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:25:54 +0000

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By: nancy

nancy — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:19:14 +0000

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By: arky

arky — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:06:14 +0000

"And, as Bill Jempty rightly notes, it’s reasonable to wonder how many we’d deport if we tried to round up all 12 million illegals at one time."

I am SO tired of this canard. What reputable immigration enforcement advocate has suggested such a thing?

The only time I see this option mentioned, it's by someone who wants to throw it out as an unachievable goal, and ust that to justify doing nothing.

Why not discuss the feasibility of enforcing the borders just once? Maybe we'd just like to see the numbers not exceed 20 million.

After all, there's no way we can remove all the microbes from our bodies, and many of them there presently provide needed functions. So why bother washing our hands?

By: The Florida Masochist

The Florida Masochist — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:41:47 +0000

Does this need to be investigated, determine what went wrong, see if new procedures would make sense, see if punishment of individuals makes sense, etc? Yes. But a blanket indictment of the entire procedures baised just on this seems to be lacking perspective to me.

This is not just one isolated instance. Click here for the story of a birth child of a US citizen being denied entrance to the US. Or here for what's called the widow penalty. James was kind enough to let me blog here about it. This is one big clusterfuck of an agency, there are going to be alot more Carla Freemans, Pedro Guzmans, and Christian DeGrow. Better question, how many are there we haven't heard about?

By: Steve Plunk

Steve Plunk — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:34:10 +0000

Yetanotherjohn's point is important. In a country of 300 million we will always find aberrations of behavior, law, justice. We should be careful making these into examples of normality. I'm not saying JJ did such a thing but many people do.

This particular case is bad and let's hope it gets rectified ASAP.

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:10:05 +0000

While I can understand the family's concern, I'm not sure I can agree with your comment "it’s quite extraordinary that our immigration procedures are so screwed up that we can accidentally deport citizens". What large scale human endeavor doesn't have screw ups? I am not hearing a lot of cases of legal citizens being deported (which may reflect more on me than the immigration procedures). The Nifong case was an example of prosecutorial miscunduct because he did not follow the guidelines and procedures laid out. But that was an individual screwing up not the procedures. I don't see enough details in this article to know if the procedures are screwed up or an individual. But since we are currently seeing a ratio of about 12 million illegal alliens not being deported to one legal citizen being deported, it would seem to me that the current procedures are heavily biased, but not towards deporting legal citizens. To put it another way, how happy would you be to have a justice system that let 12 million guilty people go free but then was considered "screwed up" because one innocent person went to jail? Or if your employer cut 12 million payroll checks not paying enough and then was said to have a "screwed up process" because they cut one payroll check for to much? Does this need to be investigated, determine what went wrong, see if new procedures would make sense, see if punishment of individuals makes sense, etc? Yes. But a blanket indictment of the entire procedures baised just on this seems to be lacking perspective to me.