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	<title>Comments on: US Soldiers: &#8220;Over There&#8221; is Bogus</title>
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		<title>By: Five O-Duece Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53724</link>
		<dc:creator>Five O-Duece Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent a year or so in Iraq - from the invasion to just after the money switch.  We are the guys who have black hearts on our helmets.  Some of my buddies and I watched the first episode - had to record it because we&#039;ve been a bit busy at work.  We found it to be laughably inaccurate for the most part.  Any platoon sgt who puts 4 cherries in the same squad should be shot.  If he does the same with one NCO and no experienced junior enlisted, he should be drawn and quartered as well.  The entire first episode, minus a couple small details is pretty hokey.  The second episode was a lot better.  I will say it triggered a bit of the adrenaline rush I used to get when running a check point.  Still, stupid inaccuracies abound.  I have never seen anything less than 2 squads manning a check point.  The guy with the most casualty producing weapon (SAW) is generally not the guy you want going up to the vehicle.  When trying to stop a vehicle, shooting the driver usually isn&#039;t as successful as shooting the tires or engine.  I found it funny that they will use the word &quot;nigger&quot; but not the word &quot;haji&quot;, which is the present analog to Viet Nam&#039;s &quot;charlie&quot;.  At least the new guy has some brains and brings something valuable to the fight.  He&#039;s about the only one that actually resembles a real soldier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a year or so in Iraq - from the invasion to just after the money switch.  We are the guys who have black hearts on our helmets.  Some of my buddies and I watched the first episode - had to record it because we've been a bit busy at work.  We found it to be laughably inaccurate for the most part.  Any platoon sgt who puts 4 cherries in the same squad should be shot.  If he does the same with one NCO and no experienced junior enlisted, he should be drawn and quartered as well.  The entire first episode, minus a couple small details is pretty hokey.  The second episode was a lot better.  I will say it triggered a bit of the adrenaline rush I used to get when running a check point.  Still, stupid inaccuracies abound.  I have never seen anything less than 2 squads manning a check point.  The guy with the most casualty producing weapon (SAW) is generally not the guy you want going up to the vehicle.  When trying to stop a vehicle, shooting the driver usually isn't as successful as shooting the tires or engine.  I found it funny that they will use the word "nigger" but not the word "haji", which is the present analog to Viet Nam's "charlie".  At least the new guy has some brains and brings something valuable to the fight.  He's about the only one that actually resembles a real soldier.</p>
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		<title>By: The Buzz Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53258</link>
		<dc:creator>The Buzz Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Even more shocking news from Hollywood.&lt;/strong&gt;

	The new Steven Bochco show &#8220;Over There&#8221; makes for entertaining TV, but is pure Hollywood.  Outside the Beltway points us to this article wherein a group of soldiers viewed the show and roundly criticized it.  
	One other viewer was so angr...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Even more shocking news from Hollywood.</strong></p>
<p>	The new Steven Bochco show &#8220;Over There&#8221; makes for entertaining TV, but is pure Hollywood.  Outside the Beltway points us to this article wherein a group of soldiers viewed the show and roundly criticized it.<br />
	One other viewer was so angr...</p>
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		<title>By: ALS</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53256</link>
		<dc:creator>ALS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband served in Iraq - both Baghdad and Fallujah. He was so disgusted with the TV show that he made me change the channel half-way through it. He says it&#039;s all bull$hit.

And as an Army veteran myself, I gotta say, Soldiers are, in reality, better trained than the way they were portrayed in the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband served in Iraq - both Baghdad and Fallujah. He was so disgusted with the TV show that he made me change the channel half-way through it. He says it's all bull$hit.</p>
<p>And as an Army veteran myself, I gotta say, Soldiers are, in reality, better trained than the way they were portrayed in the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Leopold Stotch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leopold Stotch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bell: perhaps you should read the post again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bell: perhaps you should read the post again.</p>
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		<title>By: My Own Thoughts &#187; &#8220;Over There&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53179</link>
		<dc:creator>My Own Thoughts &#187; &#8220;Over There&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I found Outside the Beltway&#8217;s entry on it, I thought, &#8220;Yes. That&#8217;s what the problems were.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I found Outside the Beltway&#8217;s entry on it, I thought, &#8220;Yes. That&#8217;s what the problems were.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lt bell</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53178</link>
		<dc:creator>Lt bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that right - all you conservatives - tell us how it is- you know best-
I happen to be sitting at camp murray right now-
REAL TIME  &quot;BOYS&quot;- In the realworld-
NOT THE BUSH WORLD-  The REAL WORLD-

And the report is Real
Bush is the fake - you are the fakes
Send your daughter and son to Iraq -  just like you went to Vietnam

cowards all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that right - all you conservatives - tell us how it is- you know best-<br />
I happen to be sitting at camp murray right now-<br />
REAL TIME  "BOYS"- In the realworld-<br />
NOT THE BUSH WORLD-  The REAL WORLD-</p>
<p>And the report is Real<br />
Bush is the fake - you are the fakes<br />
Send your daughter and son to Iraq -  just like you went to Vietnam</p>
<p>cowards all</p>
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		<title>By: David Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_soldiers_over_there_is_bogus/comment-page-1/#comment-53177</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Over There&quot; is a piece of trash and Hollywood needs to send some individuals to the hot spots to see what it is REALLY LIKE before making a piece of trash like this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Over There" is a piece of trash and Hollywood needs to send some individuals to the hot spots to see what it is REALLY LIKE before making a piece of trash like this!</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw &quot;Over There.&quot;  I told my husband that was probably the only one I wanted to see.

It was interesting, but it was not realistic.  I knew that and I am not, nor have I ever been, in the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw "Over There."  I told my husband that was probably the only one I wanted to see.</p>
<p>It was interesting, but it was not realistic.  I knew that and I am not, nor have I ever been, in the military.</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt Fluffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sgt Fluffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happens time and time again.  People from the outside think they know what happens on the inside.  Another piece of trash that made its debut a few years back was the movie adaption of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UM3F/702-2856149-2687260&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;A Glimpse of Hell&quot; &lt;/a&gt;. The &quot;True&quot; story of what happened on the USS Iowa in 1989, on FX to by the way..  Both the book and movie played out like a bad mystery novel. As for &quot;Over There&quot; apparently they didn&#039;t go past the Hollywood adaptation of Vietnam because thay still think that soldiers are still &quot;thrown together&quot; as if they were drafted. FX does from time to time show and produce really great shows, but they missed the boat once again with this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens time and time again.  People from the outside think they know what happens on the inside.  Another piece of trash that made its debut a few years back was the movie adaption of  <a href="http://http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UM3F/702-2856149-2687260" rel="nofollow"> "A Glimpse of Hell" </a>. The "True" story of what happened on the USS Iowa in 1989, on FX to by the way..  Both the book and movie played out like a bad mystery novel. As for "Over There" apparently they didn't go past the Hollywood adaptation of Vietnam because thay still think that soldiers are still "thrown together" as if they were drafted. FX does from time to time show and produce really great shows, but they missed the boat once again with this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie (Colorado)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie (Colorado)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 00:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  Relatively ill-trained soldiers, little armor support, units thrown together in-country ... what does that sound like?

I know: &lt;em&gt;Viet Nam&lt;/em&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  Relatively ill-trained soldiers, little armor support, units thrown together in-country ... what does that sound like?</p>
<p>I know: <em>Viet Nam</em>!</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 23:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Over There - The MilBlog reaction&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#8217;s not very favorable.  Greyhawk has a roundup of MilBlog reactions.  - Leopold Stotch at OTB says</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Over There - The MilBlog reaction</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not very favorable.  Greyhawk has a roundup of MilBlog reactions.  - Leopold Stotch at OTB says</p>
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		<title>By: A Knight&#8217;s Blog &#187; Over There &#8212; In Hollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Knight&#8217;s Blog &#187; Over There &#8212; In Hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 22:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat tip to Leopold Stotch at Outside the Beltway. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hat tip to Leopold Stotch at Outside the Beltway. [...]</p>
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