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	<title>Comments on: Virginia Apologizes for Slavery and Exploiting Indians</title>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tano; don&#039;t be niave, what politician would have the spine to vote AGAINST this nonsense??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tano; don't be niave, what politician would have the spine to vote AGAINST this nonsense??</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes. The GEICO commercials.

I don&#039;t know what&#039;s worse. Extinction or the GEICO commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes. The GEICO commercials.</p>
<p>I don't know what's worse. Extinction or the GEICO commercials.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Virginia apologizes for role in slavery 
   
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Meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol, the Virginia General Assembly voted unanim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Virginia apologizes for role in slavery </p>
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<p>Meeting on the grounds of the former Confederate Capitol, the Virginia General Assembly voted unanim...</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/virginia_apologizes_slavery_and_exploiting_indians/comment-page-1/#comment-114197</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

I really am puzzled by many of your comments the past few days. I always thought of you as a reasonable person - though not in agreement with me on many issues. But lately I am finding your opinions to be downright nutty.

&quot;An apology is an admission of fault and contrition.&quot;

Yeah, and the Commonwealth of Virginia, as an enduring institution, has a hell of a lot to apologize for.

&quot;To apologize for something that ended nearly two hundred years ago might be decent&quot;

Not might, is.

&quot;but it has no moral weight given that no responsibility is taken.&quot;

It certainly does have &quot;moral weight&quot;. It is the official pronouncment of the Commonwealth of Virginia as to what is proper for an American government to do, and an admission it failed horribly in doing that.

&quot;It’s merely a cheap publicity stunt: “Look at how enlightened we are.” &quot;

And I see the flip side. I see how unenlightened you are.
Instead of an apology, you think they should give a tax cut. That is not even funny. Its a pretty pathetic example of how you just dont get it.

I am actually quite impressed that the vote was unanimous. Given the range of people that one finds in a typical state legislature, and given Virginia and its history - I offer my congratulations to you for being more clueless than ANY of the elected representatives of your state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>I really am puzzled by many of your comments the past few days. I always thought of you as a reasonable person - though not in agreement with me on many issues. But lately I am finding your opinions to be downright nutty.</p>
<p>"An apology is an admission of fault and contrition."</p>
<p>Yeah, and the Commonwealth of Virginia, as an enduring institution, has a hell of a lot to apologize for.</p>
<p>"To apologize for something that ended nearly two hundred years ago might be decent"</p>
<p>Not might, is.</p>
<p>"but it has no moral weight given that no responsibility is taken."</p>
<p>It certainly does have "moral weight". It is the official pronouncment of the Commonwealth of Virginia as to what is proper for an American government to do, and an admission it failed horribly in doing that.</p>
<p>"It&rsquo;s merely a cheap publicity stunt: “Look at how enlightened we are.” "</p>
<p>And I see the flip side. I see how unenlightened you are.<br />
Instead of an apology, you think they should give a tax cut. That is not even funny. Its a pretty pathetic example of how you just dont get it.</p>
<p>I am actually quite impressed that the vote was unanimous. Given the range of people that one finds in a typical state legislature, and given Virginia and its history - I offer my congratulations to you for being more clueless than ANY of the elected representatives of your state.</p>
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		<title>By: Maniakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maniakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Neanderthal Person,

What Randall said goes for me, too. I&#039;m also sorry about those GEICO commercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neanderthal Person,</p>
<p>What Randall said goes for me, too. I'm also sorry about those GEICO commercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/virginia_apologizes_slavery_and_exploiting_indians/comment-page-1/#comment-114174</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Neanderthal Man, er... Person,

I am very sorry that the people that bear a vague resemblance to me hastened your extinction about 200,000 year ago.

I would work ceaselessly on behalf of reparations for your people if you still existed, but you don&#039;t so I think I will get a home theater system instead.

A home theater system is kind of like a play or a theater type thing except that the little people on the screen aren&#039;t really there.

They&#039;re just images.

An image is a thing that you look at but it isn&#039;t really there.

OK, it&#039;s there, but the thing you&#039;re looking at - that&#039;s not there. The home theater system is there, but...oh, nevermind.

Just sorry.

Sincerely,

A really, very, very, guilty and sorry member of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neanderthal Man, er... Person,</p>
<p>I am very sorry that the people that bear a vague resemblance to me hastened your extinction about 200,000 year ago.</p>
<p>I would work ceaselessly on behalf of reparations for your people if you still existed, but you don't so I think I will get a home theater system instead.</p>
<p>A home theater system is kind of like a play or a theater type thing except that the little people on the screen aren't really there.</p>
<p>They're just images.</p>
<p>An image is a thing that you look at but it isn't really there.</p>
<p>OK, it's there, but the thing you're looking at - that's not there. The home theater system is there, but...oh, nevermind.</p>
<p>Just sorry.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>A really, very, very, guilty and sorry member of the species Homo Sapiens Sapiens</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Buz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how much of my tax$ were spent crafting this language...? Now that our reps feel better about themselves....&gt;less guilt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how much of my tax$ were spent crafting this language...? Now that our reps feel better about themselves....&gt;less guilt</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/virginia_apologizes_slavery_and_exploiting_indians/comment-page-1/#comment-114170</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the United States made the slave trade illegal decades before the Civil War, slavery, itself, was still legal in most northern states--not just the border states--at the time of the Civil War. This is why Lincoln&#039;s Emancipation Proclamation &quot;freed&quot; only slaves only in states that had withdrawn from the Union. Southerners didn&#039;t purchase slaves directly from Africa; they bought them from Yankee merchants operating slave ships out of northern ports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the United States made the slave trade illegal decades before the Civil War, slavery, itself, was still legal in most northern states--not just the border states--at the time of the Civil War. This is why Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation "freed" only slaves only in states that had withdrawn from the Union. Southerners didn't purchase slaves directly from Africa; they bought them from Yankee merchants operating slave ships out of northern ports.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The current generation of leaders of Virginia are stewards of that institution. . . . I think this resolution is a mark of honor and decency and honesty.&lt;/em&gt;

An apology is an admission of fault and contrition. To apologize for something that ended nearly two hundred years ago might be decent but it has no moral weight given that no responsibility is taken. It&#039;s merely a cheap publicity stunt:  &quot;Look at how enlightened we are.&quot;  

Rather than apologizing, they should demonstrate that they&#039;ve learned something and take action to make Virginians more free, whether by reducing the tax burden,repealing burden some laws and regulations, or the like.  That, though, would be hard, so they&#039;re not going to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The current generation of leaders of Virginia are stewards of that institution. . . . I think this resolution is a mark of honor and decency and honesty.</em></p>
<p>An apology is an admission of fault and contrition. To apologize for something that ended nearly two hundred years ago might be decent but it has no moral weight given that no responsibility is taken. It's merely a cheap publicity stunt:  "Look at how enlightened we are."  </p>
<p>Rather than apologizing, they should demonstrate that they've learned something and take action to make Virginians more free, whether by reducing the tax burden,repealing burden some laws and regulations, or the like.  That, though, would be hard, so they're not going to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There certainly seems to be somthing about you Virginians that strikes us Yanks as deeply unserious about your &quot;legacy&quot;.

Its not about you James. Yes, we know - you have never owned slaves, and no doubt, condemn the very idea. But this was a resolution from the commonwealth of Virginia - an organic body that has a history of hundreds of years. Is it not consistent with conservatism to recognize the value and the legitimacy of long-standing institutions? The commonwealth of Virginia was deeply complicit in slavery, and then in official oppression (segregation) for nearly 90% of its history. 

The current generation of leaders of Virginia are stewards of that institution. They are charged with the responsibility of delivering the institution in good health to future generations, but they also inherit the institution and all its history.

I think this resolution is a mark of honor and decency and honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There certainly seems to be somthing about you Virginians that strikes us Yanks as deeply unserious about your "legacy".</p>
<p>Its not about you James. Yes, we know - you have never owned slaves, and no doubt, condemn the very idea. But this was a resolution from the commonwealth of Virginia - an organic body that has a history of hundreds of years. Is it not consistent with conservatism to recognize the value and the legitimacy of long-standing institutions? The commonwealth of Virginia was deeply complicit in slavery, and then in official oppression (segregation) for nearly 90% of its history. </p>
<p>The current generation of leaders of Virginia are stewards of that institution. They are charged with the responsibility of delivering the institution in good health to future generations, but they also inherit the institution and all its history.</p>
<p>I think this resolution is a mark of honor and decency and honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story brought about the silly headline of the day: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gopunditgo.com/?p=859&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Assembly expresses &#039;regret&#039; for slavery, passes roads bill&lt;/a&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story brought about the silly headline of the day: "<a href="http://www.gopunditgo.com/?p=859" rel="nofollow">Assembly expresses 'regret' for slavery, passes roads bill</a>"</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is apologetic about slavery but everyone likes the results. Civilization, itself, is slaved-based. Slavery was the &quot;shortcut&quot; between primitive tribal society and the modern world. More recently, it funded the industrial revolution, which made slavery non-economical. 

Americans who purchased slaves from African tribes were participating in a global slave market whose existence pre-dated written history. In America, all races, not just whites, owned slaves. The Cherokees, for example, were the last to give up their slaves. After the Civil War, the U.S. government ended slavery on tribal lands by purchasing the slaves and setting them free. Free African-Americans also owned slaves. (One of the biggest southern slave-owners was a black freeman.) Only a small percentage of free blacks owned slaves, of course, but only a small percentage of whites, probably about eight percent owned slaves. 

Everyone alive today is a beneficiary of slavery, including African Americans, who enjoy a much higher standard of living than those left behind in Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is apologetic about slavery but everyone likes the results. Civilization, itself, is slaved-based. Slavery was the "shortcut" between primitive tribal society and the modern world. More recently, it funded the industrial revolution, which made slavery non-economical. </p>
<p>Americans who purchased slaves from African tribes were participating in a global slave market whose existence pre-dated written history. In America, all races, not just whites, owned slaves. The Cherokees, for example, were the last to give up their slaves. After the Civil War, the U.S. government ended slavery on tribal lands by purchasing the slaves and setting them free. Free African-Americans also owned slaves. (One of the biggest southern slave-owners was a black freeman.) Only a small percentage of free blacks owned slaves, of course, but only a small percentage of whites, probably about eight percent owned slaves. </p>
<p>Everyone alive today is a beneficiary of slavery, including African Americans, who enjoy a much higher standard of living than those left behind in Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McEachin is a pathetic incompetent that ought to be unemployed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McEachin is a pathetic incompetent that ought to be unemployed!</p>
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		<title>By: Stanford Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanford Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The part of this phenomenon I don&#039;t understand is why it seems to be selective. The instances of &quot;man&#039;s inhumanity to man&quot; mentioned in the various public apologies or regrets covers a handful of events in history. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong but American slavery, the Holocaust and WWII Japanese internment are the most common references.  Right at the moment I cannot think of another example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part of this phenomenon I don't understand is why it seems to be selective. The instances of "man's inhumanity to man" mentioned in the various public apologies or regrets covers a handful of events in history. Correct me if I'm wrong but American slavery, the Holocaust and WWII Japanese internment are the most common references.  Right at the moment I cannot think of another example.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a stupid much-to-do-about-nothing.  It&#039;s not like their going to implement something that&#039;s retroactive, or are they?

Then every state should apologize...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a stupid much-to-do-about-nothing.  It's not like their going to implement something that's retroactive, or are they?</p>
<p>Then every state should apologize...</p>
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