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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s like the fallacy that if you tke guns away from the law abiding only criminals will have guns&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Spoken like someone who hasn&#039;t been watching the news the last few days....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's like the fallacy that if you tke guns away from the law abiding only criminals will have guns</p></blockquote>
<p>Spoken like someone who hasn't been watching the news the last few days....</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to say that as someone who just lost some one at VT. I think that we are all still hurting and the wounds to fresh to be thinking about any of this. My main thoughts are with the victims families who are in absolute pain over the slaughter of innocent lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to say that as someone who just lost some one at VT. I think that we are all still hurting and the wounds to fresh to be thinking about any of this. My main thoughts are with the victims families who are in absolute pain over the slaughter of innocent lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a burning question i would like aired and answered!  

Whats up with the fact that the police ASSUMED the gunman had left campus!!

I am a nurse and in the medical field we are to assume nothing!!!  I would believe the same should be with police matters as well.

what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a burning question i would like aired and answered!  </p>
<p>Whats up with the fact that the police ASSUMED the gunman had left campus!!</p>
<p>I am a nurse and in the medical field we are to assume nothing!!!  I would believe the same should be with police matters as well.</p>
<p>what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tlaloc wrote: &quot;What you can do is put the manufacturers out of business and dry up the supply.&quot;

Do you really believe that?!?!?!?  How many weapon manufacturers are there in Iraq?  I&#039;ve never heard of an Iraqi-made AK-47.  No those are all imported weapons.  If we had no manufacturers here, the criminals would definitely get them from somewhere else as terrorists have proven for a hundred years.

I would agree that it is too easy for a criminal to obtain a firearm...but it&#039;s a double-edged sword and it&#039;s just as easy for law-abiding citizens to obtain them to defend themselves.

Can good people turn bad?  Sure they can, but let&#039;s remember that a firearm is just an inanimate object...as is a hammer...or a knife...or a baseball bat...or a golf trophy...or anything else that may be used to kill a person.  When one person makes the decision to kill another, the weapon they use is inconsequential.  Are you going to make hammers, knives, baseball bats, and golf trophies illegal too?

It would be interesting to know how many people are murdered every day with firearms vs other means.  Think about all the murders that occur every day without firearms solely in the prison system.

Gun control absolutely will not work...as the 32 unarmed victims have so grusomely proven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tlaloc wrote: "What you can do is put the manufacturers out of business and dry up the supply."</p>
<p>Do you really believe that?!?!?!?  How many weapon manufacturers are there in Iraq?  I've never heard of an Iraqi-made AK-47.  No those are all imported weapons.  If we had no manufacturers here, the criminals would definitely get them from somewhere else as terrorists have proven for a hundred years.</p>
<p>I would agree that it is too easy for a criminal to obtain a firearm...but it's a double-edged sword and it's just as easy for law-abiding citizens to obtain them to defend themselves.</p>
<p>Can good people turn bad?  Sure they can, but let's remember that a firearm is just an inanimate object...as is a hammer...or a knife...or a baseball bat...or a golf trophy...or anything else that may be used to kill a person.  When one person makes the decision to kill another, the weapon they use is inconsequential.  Are you going to make hammers, knives, baseball bats, and golf trophies illegal too?</p>
<p>It would be interesting to know how many people are murdered every day with firearms vs other means.  Think about all the murders that occur every day without firearms solely in the prison system.</p>
<p>Gun control absolutely will not work...as the 32 unarmed victims have so grusomely proven.</p>
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		<title>By: juanita zenquis-steelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>juanita zenquis-steelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am so sorry what happen to those that lost there life and i sent my pray to all and god bless them all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am so sorry what happen to those that lost there life and i sent my pray to all and god bless them all</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tlaloc, we are all born with sin and are all capable of evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tlaloc, we are all born with sin and are all capable of evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/virginia_tech_shootings_-_21_dead/comment-page-1/#comment-120446</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are good people and there are evil people. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This kind of simplistic belief is why we never solve these problems.  It&#039;s like the fallacy that if you tke guns away from the law abiding only criminals will have guns.

Where exactly do you think criminals come from?  Do they appear fuilly formed and already armed?  Are these &quot;evil&quot; people spontaneously generated from garbage like the middle ages theory on maggots?  

Of course not, they are formerly law abiding people who snap.  And because we&#039;ve made sure to give every last damn one of them an arsenal when they snap they have a ton of metal jacketed party favors to be delivered.

Not to mention that by having such a huge thriving market for legal guns we flood the illegal markets as well.  You can&#039;t keep such a thing contained.  What you can do is put the manufacturers out of business and dry up the supply.

Why does that work?  Why isn&#039;t that just prohibition for guns?  because guns are not an end in and of themselves, they are a means to another end.  The only reason a person wants a gun is because the other guy has one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are good people and there are evil people. </p></blockquote>
<p>This kind of simplistic belief is why we never solve these problems.  It's like the fallacy that if you tke guns away from the law abiding only criminals will have guns.</p>
<p>Where exactly do you think criminals come from?  Do they appear fuilly formed and already armed?  Are these "evil" people spontaneously generated from garbage like the middle ages theory on maggots?  </p>
<p>Of course not, they are formerly law abiding people who snap.  And because we've made sure to give every last damn one of them an arsenal when they snap they have a ton of metal jacketed party favors to be delivered.</p>
<p>Not to mention that by having such a huge thriving market for legal guns we flood the illegal markets as well.  You can't keep such a thing contained.  What you can do is put the manufacturers out of business and dry up the supply.</p>
<p>Why does that work?  Why isn't that just prohibition for guns?  because guns are not an end in and of themselves, they are a means to another end.  The only reason a person wants a gun is because the other guy has one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/virginia_tech_shootings_-_21_dead/comment-page-1/#comment-120395</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, I&#039;d like it if you&#039;d all prove me wrong on that count.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was a question doofus, not an assertion, but you&#039;ve quite clearly answered the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, I'd like it if you'd all prove me wrong on that count.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was a question doofus, not an assertion, but you've quite clearly answered the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Pug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;so I don&#039;t think that more gun laws are the solution here.&lt;/em&gt; 

I have to agree with this for two reasons:  first, the Second Amendment does guarantee Americans the right to bear arms and that isn&#039;t going to change,  and second, there are already so many guns around no law is going to get rid of them all.

The gun supporters claim that everybody should be packing a gun is pretty lame, too.  I have a daughter who is a freshman in college and I would really prefer that all the students didn&#039;t pack a gun and I&#039;m sure very few of them are really interested in carrying a concealed weapon.  That isn&#039;t going to happen either.

Unfortunately, I&#039;m not sure there really is a solution to the random whack job with a gun.  It&#039;s just kind of hey, welcome to America.  This is us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>so I don't think that more gun laws are the solution here.</em> </p>
<p>I have to agree with this for two reasons:  first, the Second Amendment does guarantee Americans the right to bear arms and that isn't going to change,  and second, there are already so many guns around no law is going to get rid of them all.</p>
<p>The gun supporters claim that everybody should be packing a gun is pretty lame, too.  I have a daughter who is a freshman in college and I would really prefer that all the students didn't pack a gun and I'm sure very few of them are really interested in carrying a concealed weapon.  That isn't going to happen either.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I'm not sure there really is a solution to the random whack job with a gun.  It's just kind of hey, welcome to America.  This is us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Ferguson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Ferguson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody said something about a college kid with a .38 not being able to stop this.  If ALL of the college kids would&#039;ve been packing, the body count would be less.  Thats a common sense fact.  

There are good people and there are evil people.  Evil people that would kill another human being in cold blood will so obviously not respect any gun laws and NO gunlaws will stop evil people from obtaining weapons to carry out thier plans.  If all the &quot;Good&quot; people had weapons, the &quot;Evil&quot; people would not be able to carry out their ploys.

I can&#039;t believe that there is any question about why weapon freedom is so important.

Just my RIGHT $.02

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody said something about a college kid with a .38 not being able to stop this.  If ALL of the college kids would've been packing, the body count would be less.  Thats a common sense fact.  </p>
<p>There are good people and there are evil people.  Evil people that would kill another human being in cold blood will so obviously not respect any gun laws and NO gunlaws will stop evil people from obtaining weapons to carry out thier plans.  If all the "Good" people had weapons, the "Evil" people would not be able to carry out their ploys.</p>
<p>I can't believe that there is any question about why weapon freedom is so important.</p>
<p>Just my RIGHT $.02</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, a ban on 9mm pistols?  That&#039;s never going to happen.  Too many people use them, they are easy to conceal... it&#039;d be about as effective as prohibiting pot has been.  Outlawing pistols will just result in a bunch of unarmed innocent people and not stop psychos from getting guns at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, a ban on 9mm pistols?  That's never going to happen.  Too many people use them, they are easy to conceal... it'd be about as effective as prohibiting pot has been.  Outlawing pistols will just result in a bunch of unarmed innocent people and not stop psychos from getting guns at all.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No, I&#039;d like it if you&#039;d all prove me wrong on that count.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

You&#039;re doing that without any assistance at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, I'd like it if you'd all prove me wrong on that count.</p></blockquote>
<p>You're doing that without any assistance at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now you are smarmy and arrogant ghoul.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guess how much your opinion means to me.  Go on, guess...



&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you actually like these kinds of events, so you can show us all how much more righteous than the rest of us you are?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I&#039;d like it if you&#039;d all prove me &lt;em&gt;wrong&lt;/em&gt; on that count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now you are smarmy and arrogant ghoul.</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess how much your opinion means to me.  Go on, guess...</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you actually like these kinds of events, so you can show us all how much more righteous than the rest of us you are?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I'd like it if you'd all prove me <em>wrong</em> on that count.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well he was using pistols, and VT was already a &#039;gun free zone&#039;... there&#039;s never gonna be a law that outlaws ownership of 9mm pistols so I don&#039;t think that more gun laws are the solution here. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why not (referring to the law against 9mm pistols)?  We can make any law we bloody well want to.  Ain&#039;t democracy grand?

Conversely we&#039;re responsible for any law we choose not to make.  Doesn&#039;t democracy suck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well he was using pistols, and VT was already a 'gun free zone'... there's never gonna be a law that outlaws ownership of 9mm pistols so I don't think that more gun laws are the solution here. </p></blockquote>
<p>Why not (referring to the law against 9mm pistols)?  We can make any law we bloody well want to.  Ain't democracy grand?</p>
<p>Conversely we're responsible for any law we choose not to make.  Doesn't democracy suck?</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Developing: Virginia Tech Shooting Incident - 31+...&lt;/strong&gt;

Since the reports indicate that there was a single assailant and police are conducting a search for a second assailant as a matter of routine, one has to wonder how if there was a single gunman that he managed to get across campus to continue his mur.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Developing: Virginia Tech Shooting Incident - 31+...</strong></p>
<p>Since the reports indicate that there was a single assailant and police are conducting a search for a second assailant as a matter of routine, one has to wonder how if there was a single gunman that he managed to get across campus to continue his mur.....</p>
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