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	<title>Comments on: Wal-Mart Supports Mandatory Health Coverage (Out of Kindness, I Suppose)</title>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1083252</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxes?  Health Care?  The Deficit?  What will Lefty do?

... Where he got the bread to go, there ain&#039;t nobody knows.  All the Federales say they could have fixed it any day, they only let it go so long, out of kindness, I suppose.

With apologies to Townes Van Zandt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes?  Health Care?  The Deficit?  What will Lefty do?</p>
<p>... Where he got the bread to go, there ain't nobody knows.  All the Federales say they could have fixed it any day, they only let it go so long, out of kindness, I suppose.</p>
<p>With apologies to Townes Van Zandt.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1082889</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the notion of regulatory capture mentioned in the update referencing McArdle is old news.  It was first put forward by George J. Stigler decades ago.  There is plenty of evidence out there suggesting that when a firm gets behind a regulatory proposal one should display healthy skepticism of their new found enlightenment and beneficence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the notion of regulatory capture mentioned in the update referencing McArdle is old news.  It was first put forward by George J. Stigler decades ago.  There is plenty of evidence out there suggesting that when a firm gets behind a regulatory proposal one should display healthy skepticism of their new found enlightenment and beneficence.</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1082026</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Forcing your competition to have higher costs via the coercive power of the government is a no-brainer. Wherever it is true, it will workout in Wal-Mart&#039;s favor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Crap, so Omaba bails out target because their to big because if they fail  we would only go to wall-mart and thats evil, and then.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Forcing your competition to have higher costs via the coercive power of the government is a no-brainer. Wherever it is true, it will workout in Wal-Mart's favor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Crap, so Omaba bails out target because their to big because if they fail  we would only go to wall-mart and thats evil, and then.......</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1081818</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Re. the Updates, I find it mind boggling that anyone would conjecture (sans data?) that Target pays less per employee for healthcare than WalMart now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Forcing your competition to have higher costs via the coercive power of the government is a no-brainer.  Wherever it is true, it will workout in Wal-Mart&#039;s favor.

As for data, lets see...one well known &quot;robber baron&quot; used a similar tactic to great effect.  But its just history, not a ratio or anything.

meh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Re. the Updates, I find it mind boggling that anyone would conjecture (sans data?) that Target pays less per employee for healthcare than WalMart now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Forcing your competition to have higher costs via the coercive power of the government is a no-brainer.  Wherever it is true, it will workout in Wal-Mart's favor.</p>
<p>As for data, lets see...one well known "robber baron" used a similar tactic to great effect.  But its just history, not a ratio or anything.</p>
<p>meh.</p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. the Updates, I find it mind boggling that anyone would conjecture (sans data?) that Target pays less per employee for healthcare than WalMart now.

Second, to one up you on cynicism, what if WalMart thinks it can lobby for higher benefits for full-time employees, knowing that it has fewer full-time employees?

Anyway, I asked for those part-to-full time ratios in my first post.  Those are what would convince me, if anyone has them.  (Surfing the web I see a number of &#039;06 stories about WalMart making a conscious move then to more part-time workers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. the Updates, I find it mind boggling that anyone would conjecture (sans data?) that Target pays less per employee for healthcare than WalMart now.</p>
<p>Second, to one up you on cynicism, what if WalMart thinks it can lobby for higher benefits for full-time employees, knowing that it has fewer full-time employees?</p>
<p>Anyway, I asked for those part-to-full time ratios in my first post.  Those are what would convince me, if anyone has them.  (Surfing the web I see a number of '06 stories about WalMart making a conscious move then to more part-time workers.)</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1081752</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snort. Pehaps using Wal-Mart as the primary health care provider in the US is the only way these &quot;savings&quot; President Obama keeps going on about can actually materialize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snort. Pehaps using Wal-Mart as the primary health care provider in the US is the only way these "savings" President Obama keeps going on about can actually materialize.</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1081751</link>
		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Wal-Mart is angling for all the Government Motors dealerships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Wal-Mart is angling for all the Government Motors dealerships.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That leaves 9.6% of Wal-Mart employees without any coverage&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s from a 2007 article.  Today&#039;s Wall Street Journal reports that only 5% of Wal-mart employees lack any coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That leaves 9.6% of Wal-Mart employees without any coverage</p></blockquote>
<p>That's from a 2007 article.  Today's Wall Street Journal reports that only 5% of Wal-mart employees lack any coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Wal-Mart Suprises Somes, But Not Others &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wal-Mart Suprises Somes, But Not Others &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] James Joyner [...]</description>
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		<title>By: G.A.Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wal-mart_supports_mandatory_health_coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-1081677</link>
		<dc:creator>G.A.Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, for 46% of them at least.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I lost my good job now I make 8 bucks an hour, I do what I have to to get by,my company does not give me health care, so the **** what, thats my problem...... ****, go to the emergency room then work out a payment plan.....while you look for a better job....If things are relay bad find someone who cares about you and ask for help......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, for 46% of them at least.</p></blockquote>
<p>I lost my good job now I make 8 bucks an hour, I do what I have to to get by,my company does not give me health care, so the **** what, thats my problem...... ****, go to the emergency room then work out a payment plan.....while you look for a better job....If things are relay bad find someone who cares about you and ask for help......</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some numbers:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Of Wal-Mart&#039;s 1.3 million workers, 47.4% are covered by its health plans, up from 46% a year earlier, a Wal-Mart spokesman said.

Another 43% have health care coverage through another source, such as spouses, Medicare, the military or another employer, Wal-Mart said.

That leaves 9.6% of Wal-Mart employees without any coverage

...

Wal-Mart said Thursday that 76.3% of its workforce were eligible for health benefits in the most recent open-enrollment period.

That beats the average of 59% of workers in the retail sector who are eligible for benefits, Wal-Mart said, citing a 2006 Kaiser Family Foundation survey.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2007-01-11-%20walmart%20insurance_x.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;USA Today&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some numbers:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of Wal-Mart's 1.3 million workers, 47.4% are covered by its health plans, up from 46% a year earlier, a Wal-Mart spokesman said.</p>
<p>Another 43% have health care coverage through another source, such as spouses, Medicare, the military or another employer, Wal-Mart said.</p>
<p>That leaves 9.6% of Wal-Mart employees without any coverage</p>
<p>...</p>
<p>Wal-Mart said Thursday that 76.3% of its workforce were eligible for health benefits in the most recent open-enrollment period.</p>
<p>That beats the average of 59% of workers in the retail sector who are eligible for benefits, Wal-Mart said, citing a 2006 Kaiser Family Foundation survey.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2007-01-11-%20walmart%20insurance_x.htm" rel="nofollow">USA Today</a></p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 20% of Wal-mart&#039;s employees are part-time.  The larger complaints about Wal-mart are that they have a high deductable ($1k per person; $3k per family) and long eligibility requirements (6 months for full-time; 12 months for part-time).

I don&#039;t know that any of this is unusual for the retail sector, but usually Wal-mart gets compared to other Fortune 500 firms, for which it compares unfavorably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 20% of Wal-mart's employees are part-time.  The larger complaints about Wal-mart are that they have a high deductable ($1k per person; $3k per family) and long eligibility requirements (6 months for full-time; 12 months for part-time).</p>
<p>I don't know that any of this is unusual for the retail sector, but usually Wal-mart gets compared to other Fortune 500 firms, for which it compares unfavorably.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know Tomasky&#039;s e-mail I want to send him a note that I&#039;ve got a pony for him.  

Lets think it through.  Are we going to get health care reform?  Probably.  So, does Wal-Mart sit on the sidelines or do they get involved and try to get the best deal possible?  I&#039;m going to go with the latter.  So, they figure they are going to get hit one way or the other...how best to take those lemons and make lemonade?  Why not make sure your smaller competition takes the hit too.  You&#039;re big, have lots of employees and as such can have an insurance pool that is much more diverse than a smaller competitor.  Could you get a better deal?  Probably.  Woo-hoo now you have less competition, and that means more market power both as a seller and possibly as a buyer.  The latter could be key.  Try reading about how Rockafeller made his fortune and built up his near monopoly in the oil industry--hint it involves rail roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know Tomasky's e-mail I want to send him a note that I've got a pony for him.  </p>
<p>Lets think it through.  Are we going to get health care reform?  Probably.  So, does Wal-Mart sit on the sidelines or do they get involved and try to get the best deal possible?  I'm going to go with the latter.  So, they figure they are going to get hit one way or the other...how best to take those lemons and make lemonade?  Why not make sure your smaller competition takes the hit too.  You're big, have lots of employees and as such can have an insurance pool that is much more diverse than a smaller competitor.  Could you get a better deal?  Probably.  Woo-hoo now you have less competition, and that means more market power both as a seller and possibly as a buyer.  The latter could be key.  Try reading about how Rockafeller made his fortune and built up his near monopoly in the oil industry--hint it involves rail roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wal-Mart is already providing health insurance for its employees &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, for 46% of them at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wal-Mart is already providing health insurance for its employees </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, for 46% of them at least.</p>
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		<title>By: jimT</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and Philip Morris&#039; endorsement of cigarette regulation was just as altruistic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Philip Morris' endorsement of cigarette regulation was just as altruistic...</p>
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